Legato Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 18 hours ago, TreeBeard said: We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. What??? You think a rifle is what you do to your handbag when you can't find your keys. 2 Quote
cougar Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 15 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: A lot more...Americans kill each other to the tune of 20,000+ homicides each year, mostly by firearm, regardless of ICE. Also, when I go to the gun range, I never see any pink haired women with septum rings...that's a major MAGA advantage. However the government would offer condolences to the victims and promises for some sort of a change. Now they would label the same victims terrorists and say they will do the same to the next one. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: You don't know me I am only going by your posts here. Maybe you’re a troll, but it’s clear you would side with America. 🇺🇸 Just to own the libs, you’d sell out your own country because you’re not getting your way politically. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 19 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I am only going by your posts here. Maybe you’re a troll, but it’s clear you would side with America. 🇺🇸 Just to own the libs, you’d sell out your own country because you’re not getting your way politically. None of my posts even suggest what your implying, your pulling that out of that anus.....I don't need to own the libs they do a much better job at that, than i could ever do, I was projecting some reality onto your fantasy, and about Canadians standing up to the US with violence is just that fantasy. one that can not be sustained for any period of time...Canadians are not ready for war....militarily, economically, or mentally prepared, let alone physically prepared.....Those that do would be dead within a week...I've seen harden soldiers crack under combat conditions ones, with years of training....your suggestion, that ordinary Canadians with no training and a soft upbringing are some how take back our country, from the best equipped, and manned military in the world. And that's sounds doable to you...That's the fantasy part...who is the troll ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
BeaverFever Posted January 11 Author Report Posted January 11 On 1/10/2026 at 1:54 PM, Army Guy said: You don't get it, their military would be hunting for anyone that was a terrorist or wannabe .....with resources not seen here in Canada, there would be no where to hide....SO ya you can join up, but make sure all your affairs are in order....you might be able to burn them a couple of times, but after that security will be to tight for you and your little gang.... Look at the Americans” abysmal record in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are abysmal at counterinsurgency and occupation. Plus keep in mind: The Canadian insurgents would be able to range across all of Canada and USA, which is 50x the size of Iraq Due to widespread Canadian insurgent activity on US soil, The US would have to subject its own citizens to martial law, which would spark a massive backlash from Americans. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 11 Author Report Posted January 11 On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: It's worked for Europe Has it? He’s actively planning to annex Greenland and released a manifesto that call for end of the EU and actively undermining European governments they don’t agree with. Paying the bully to leave you alone doesn’t work, it only prolongs the inevitable and makes the bully stronger in the meantime History is full of such examples On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: Disagree. His words and actions show he still believes Canada has a level of independence it probably doesn't. How so? On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: What he actually said was that the Western Hemisphere is a unipolar American-led area. Trump has pretty much said as much through capturing Maduro and threatening everyone from Colombia and Mexico to Canada and Greenland with military force, not to mention using economic blackmail to get his way. Under that scenario, doing things like going to China to try and diversify our trade is likely to provoke Trump if it leads to anything substantial. Trump saying it’s so doesn’t make it so. He is not omnipotent. American resources are finite and his already dismal political support is already declining by the day, as is the US economy and US society as a whole. He is the least popular president in recent US history and even Republicans are starting to turn on him. He’s a one term president who has only been in office for a year and hasn’t even faced his first midterm election yet, where Republicans are widely expected to get their butts whipped thanks to Trump On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: I've said before that the reason Trump won't give him a deal is that it's not just about trade. Trump and his cronies has made it clear he doesn’t want a deal and doesn’t feel bound to honour them anyway. What he wants is for us to do whatever he says and hand over anything he demands. On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: They want a crackdown on money laundering and organized crime (both of which thrive here), and Carney is refusing because doing anything about crime is not the Liberal way. That’s ridiculous. Trump and his cronies with their crypto scam, their family bribe club, are undoubtedly lousy with money laundering and organized crime. Several of the cronies from his last administration were literally convicted of laundering money from Russian oligarchs. It’s also ridiculous to suggest that soemhow Carney turns a blind eye to it. Money laundering is heavily concentrated in crypto and gambling, 2 industries conservatives love, promote and protect. On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: They want an end to mass immigration of unscreened people, many of them Muslims, and again, Carney refuses because Muslims might hate Americans and be seen as a terrorist threat, but they vote Liberal, and that's all that matters to him. A boatload of ridiculous nonsense. We never admitted “unscreened” people and Trudeau’s immigration policies have already been reversed. The Canadian population actively SHRANK as a result. And your anti-Muslim BS is also nonsense as usual. They don’t all vote liberal (it takes years for immigrants to become citizens BTW). As you’ll recall the Ontario conservatives captured a lot of Muslims voters with their anti-gay anti- sex ed hysteria they ginned up specifically targeting the Muslim community. On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: The guy you need to worry about is the Republican who succeeds Trump being of the same mindset but a lot smarter and more energetic. David Frum had an interesting take on this. He said the reason that Trump is so dangerous is precisely because he is not rational or reasonable and doesn’t care about facts or the consequences of his actions. Most of what Trump is doing is harmful to Americans including his voting base. A “smarter” Republican would at least be constrained by the limits of fact and logic and rational behaviour. Remember, the world is not suffering the will of the American people, its not even suffering the will of the Republican party. All this shit with the trade war and annexing Greenland, this all from the brain of Trump amd the fringe whackjobs he surrounded himself with. If Trump keeled over tomorrow, most of this goes away. On 1/10/2026 at 9:32 AM, I am Groot said: I don't see anything good coming out of China, and I don't see India being interested in helping us out until the Liberals reject Sikh separatism instead of cultivating it as a valuable voting bloc. We shall see. Every country is in the realpolitik game now and both those countries are searching for their own piece of the pie. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Look at the Americans” abysmal record in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are abysmal at counterinsurgency and occupation. Plus keep in mind: The Canadian insurgents would be able to range across all of Canada and USA, which is 50x the size of Iraq Due to widespread Canadian insurgent activity on US soil, The US would have to subject its own citizens to martial law, which would spark a massive backlash from Americans. US military was not to blame for those losses that was the government at the time and the people who constrained their military forces by tying both hands behind their backs.......it was them who did not have the will, or ba!!s to let their militaries off the leash and allow them to finish those wars....Look at WWI, WWII, and Korea....the military was not constrained like they were in Iraq or Afghanistan.... Abysmal you say....it is estimated that over 300 to 600 thousand Iraqis lost their lives during that insurgence....double that figure on those that were injured.... In Afghanistan well over 200,000 killed and triple that were injured... Do you think Canadian could deal with that much death and destruction.....you over estimate todays Canadians... They don't have to be good at anything they will hold all the cards, and once the people start feeling the pain from your insurgency, regular Canadian will be turning those insurgents in record numbers.... Those figures do not include your insurgency numbers.....Think Canada could process those numbers....Lets not forget these people were hard, most of them poor, and had learned how to survive with little to nothing.....Canadians are not as hard in fact they are as soft as you can get, ever see a teenager when they can't find their phone....do you think Canadians could survive with our electricity, or shelter, in the Canadian winter....How could they stand up to a well equipped military with ever weapon you could imagine... You must think the US are id!ots to allow Canadian to cross the border when ever they want....they will be on lock down not able to leave cities or towns...why would you think Canadians would have freedom of movement ? You don't think they would build a northern wall, pack it with the latest surveillance equipment , patrol it with drones, etc.... 12 years ago we could listen/record any cell phone conversations with a 10 km range and jam any one or group of phones we wanted, plus develop their phone history all from inside a back of a Bison.... doing 80 kms an hour....I can't even imagine what type of gear they have now....but i'm sure it is light years ahead of what we Canadian military had... And yes there would be a massive back lash from American citizens....But do you think they will be doing anything but protesting...and do you really think they will be allowed to cross the border.....The US is smarter than you give them credit for....they have done this a couple of times now.... US army alone has 1/2 million regular force troops, and another 500 K reserve troops, not counting national guard....not counting marines, air or naval units....or Spec operations... It is all fantasy....but feel free to try.... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Most of what Trump is doing is harmful to Americans including his voting base. A “smarter” Republican would at least be constrained by the limits of fact and logic and rational behaviour. This is the same ignorant argument I have heard my whole life. You presume to think that about half the voting population is just too stupid to know what is good for them. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 12 Author Report Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: US military was not to blame for those losses that was the government at the time and the people who constrained their military forces by tying both hands behind their backs.......it was them who did not have the will, or ba!!s to let their militaries off the leash and allow them to finish those wars....Look at WWI, WWII, and Korea....the military was not constrained like they were in Iraq or Afghanistan.... Those were conventional wars, not COIN or occupation. USA has failed every COIN war its fought. Don’t forget Vietnam. And those wars back when it was totally acceptable and normal to carpet bomb entire cities amd civilian populations . And it was before the era of global trade where us companies have hundreds of billions of dollars in trade and sunk investment. And the US didn’t share a border with those countries where it would have to deal with the mass refugee crisis such action created. Even someone as depraved and irrational as Trump is not going to do that when there’s so much downside for USA. Not to to mention zero support from even Republicans in congress And North America is massive you can dit all of Europe into Canada. US military couldn’t POSSIBLY begin to control all of Canada or even the Canada USA border. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Abysmal you say....it is estimated that over 300 to 600 thousand Iraqis lost their lives during that insurgence....double that figure on those that were injured.... In Afghanistan well over 200,000 killed and triple that were injured... Do you think Canadian could deal with that much death and destruction.....you over estimate todays Canadians... As above American people and congress are not going to support killing hundreds of thousands of Canadians knowing Canada has done nothing to them just for the vanity of a one-term president who is the most unpopular and controversial in US history. And yes, those wars were abysmal. You’ll recall the Bush administration said the Iraq war would be a matter of a few weeks or months with virtually zero casualties, that American troops would be greeted as liberators. Killing civilians by the hundreds of thousands over the span of more than decade was not part of the plan and it took a HUGE portion of their military. They had up to 170,000 troops in Iraq. That war cost USA nearly A TRILLION DOLLARS 2003-2011. You can’t seriously think Trump can just decree that action and it will just be no problem. Dont forget even the MAGA movement claims to believe that MAGA is against foreign “forever wars” like Iraq and Afghanistan. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: They don't have to be good at anything they will hold all the cards, and once the people start feeling the pain from your insurgency, regular Canadian will be turning those insurgents in record numbers.... No that’s never how it works. Once the occupier start killing innocent civilians in large numbers more people start JOINING the insurgents, not turning them in. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Those figures do not include your insurgency numbers.....Think Canada could process those numbers....Lets not forget these people were hard, most of them poor, and had learned how to survive with little to nothing.....Canadians are not as hard in fact they are as soft as you can get, ever see a teenager when they can't find their phone....do you think Canadians could survive with our electricity, or shelter, in the Canadian winter....How could they stand up to a well equipped military with ever weapon you could imagine... If only 1% of the population turned up, that would be a larger insurgent force than what usa faced in Iraq or Afghanistan. Insurgency makes having “every kind of weapon” less relevant. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You must think the US are id!ots to allow Canadian to cross the border when ever they want....they will be on lock down not able to leave cities or towns...why would you think Canadians would have freedom of movement ? You don't think they would build a northern wall, pack it with the latest surveillance equipment , patrol it with drones, etc.... They don’t have the force size to do that. Again it took 170,000 US troops to struggle to occupy Iraq for over a decade….Canada is 23x the size of Iraq. The border is nearly 9,000 km long. Even if they installed a Conservative Collaborator puppet regime to police Canadians there’s just too much territory to cover. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: 12 years ago we could listen/record any cell phone conversations with a 10 km range and jam any one or group of phones we wanted, plus develop their phone history all from inside a back of a Bison.... doing 80 kms an hour....I can't even imagine what type of gear they have now....but i'm sure it is light years ahead of what we Canadian military had... And yet in the end who ended up running Afghanistan? 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: And yes there would be a massive back lash from American citizens....But do you think they will be doing anything but protesting...and do you really think they will be allowed to cross the border.....The US is smarter than you give them credit for....they have done this a couple of times now.... Well they have not done it SUCCESSFULLY even once. And they have only done it against foreign dictatorships on the other side of the world that most Americans know nothing about. They’ve never done it against the friendly democratic country right next to them that is virtually culturally identical to Americans, a country that the majority of Americans have positive impression of, and that hasn’t done anything wrong. “We need to take their minerals” is not going to be acceptable to most Americans. Yes I think they’ll do more than just peacefully protest. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: US army alone has 1/2 million regular force troops, and another 500 K reserve troops, not counting national guard....not counting marines, air or naval units....or Spec operations... But a lot of them are in Europe and Asia and USA will still need to keep defence posture in those other global regions, they can’t bring their entire military to Canada. Insurgents don’t defeat their enemy on the battlefield, they just bleed them of money and domestic political support And a war with no reason, justification or congressional approval against the friendliest of USA allies and neighbours, that American businesses rely on for billions of annual trade and investment, it ain’t happening to begin with But it’s certainly not one that could last with that kind of massive opposition. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 12 Author Report Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, User said: This is the same ignorant argument I have heard my whole life. You presume to think that about half the voting population is just too stupid to know what is good for them. When it comes to knowing what macroeconomic policies to take, yes they are too stupid. People who think gas power plants run on “cans of gasoline” don’t know what types of energy infrastructure are “good for them”, for example People who believe that fentanyl is “pouring across the border” from Canada, that USA “doesn’t need anything from Canada” that there are no renewable energy projects in China (because renewables are a Chinese scam) or that COVID and vaccines are hoax are demonstrably too stupid to know what’s good for them. Quote
User Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: When it comes to knowing what macroeconomic policies to take, yes they are too stupid. People who think gas power plants run on “cans of gasoline” don’t know what types of energy infrastructure are “good for them”, for example People who believe that fentanyl is “pouring across the border” from Canada, that USA “doesn’t need anything from Canada” that there are no renewable energy projects in China (because renewables are a Chinese scam) or that COVID and vaccines are hoax are demonstrably too stupid to know what’s good for them. Once again, you ran away from that thread, and this is the second time you have lied about what was said there. This is your usual routine. Quote
eyeball Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 37 minutes ago, User said: This is the same ignorant argument I have heard my whole life. You presume to think that about half the voting population is just too stupid to know what is good for them. It's probably more like 3/4 actually. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Those were conventional wars, not COIN or occupation. USA has failed every COIN war its fought. Not true, but point taken. The U.S. has won a few counterinsurgency wars, notably the Philippine-American War (1899-1902). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
I am Groot Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: Has it? As far as trade goes, yes. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: . Paying the bully to leave you alone doesn’t work, it only prolongs the inevitable That's what we're trying to do. He's an old man and has three years left in power, maybe even one before he loses the Senate/House. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: How so? That he's criticising him and going to China, together with his China-owned MPs. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: A boatload of ridiculous nonsense. We never admitted “unscreened” people and Trudeau’s immigration policies have already been reversed. The only screening we do is to check their names against known terrorist watch lists. We also ask them to provide a police clearance report, but those are easily forged. We do nothing to find out what kind of people these are, whether they're full of hate for others here, whether they even plan to work as opposed to loafing on welfare. There are no responsibilities for Permanent Residents other than not being arrested for too severe a crime. There are no requirements to become a Canadian citizen other than being here for a few years (or pretending you are, since we don't keep track) and passing a 25-question true/false/multiple choice test, which you can even do online. Unlike others, we don't ever meet with them. We don't interview them to find out what sort of people they are before we accept them as permanent residents, and we don't interview them or try to find out if they've even made any effort to integrate before giving them citizenship. If they've spent three or four years here on welfare, that has no impact on whether we grant them citizenship or not. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: The Canadian population actively SHRANK as a result. Did it? Do you know what that's based on? It's based on the assumption by Immigration Canada that every single person whose visa ran out left Canada. Again, we don't keep track, but it seems highly, highly unlikely. Australia just tightened up requirements for Indians to go there, even as students, because 77% of them don't leave after their visas are up. In addition, the cuts that have been made, from about 485k to 385k are on paper. When you add in the 155k that the Liberals intend to make permanent residents over the next three years (mostly foreign workers and students) and the 500k migrants presently in the refugee queue (87% acceptance rate) Canada will be granting well over 500k new permanent resident visas a year for the foreseeable future. And there is no plan whatsoever about what to do about all those foreign workers and students who are not going to leave. By the way, did you know there is a trick to staying legally? Even if your visa expires, you can apply for one in another category, and then you get 'implied permission' to stay while that is being processed, which could take some time. There is no limit to how many times you can do this and stay working at wherever you're working. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: And your anti-Muslim BS is also nonsense as usual. They don’t all vote liberal (it takes years for immigrants to become citizens, btw. Muslims in Western countries vote for leftist parties that push mass immigration, are willing to grant them special concessions, and are in favour of generous welfare and social welfare benefits. And, lately, who agree that they too hate Jews. It takes 3 years of being present here (out of 5) to qualify, but again, we don't keep track. The UK Labour Party (Fascists!) are raising that to ten years, as it seems integration is not going so quickly. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: As you’ll recall the Ontario conservatives captured a lot of Muslims voters with their anti-gay anti- sex ed hysteria they ginned up specifically targeting the Muslim community. Which is why the Ontario Progressive Party has ordered the OPP to and Crown prosecutors to go 'hands off' on Palestinian demonstrators. Doug Ford and his Progressive party are not in any way, shape or form conservative. And if you disagree, please illustrate with what their policies are that are conservative. By the way, the sex-ed thing? They actually made few real changes. That was just for public consumption. On 1/11/2026 at 4:46 PM, BeaverFever said: David Frum had an interesting take on this. He said the reason that Trump is so dangerous is precisely because he is not rational or reasonable and doesn’t care about facts or the consequences of his actions. Most of what Trump is doing is harmful to Americans including his voting base. A “smarter” Republican would at least be constrained by the limits of fact and logic and rational behaviour. We can only hope. It was also Frum, btw, who said, in 2018 "If liberals say that only fascists will guard borders, the voters will hire fascists to do what liberals refuse to do." That is something playing out in Europe now. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Army Guy Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: 1.....Those were conventional wars, not COIN or occupation. USA has failed every COIN war its fought. Don’t forget Vietnam. And those wars back when it was totally acceptable and normal to carpet bomb entire cities amd civilian populations . And it was before the era of global trade where us companies have hundreds of billions of dollars in trade and sunk investment. And the US didn’t share a border with those countries where it would have to deal with the mass refugee crisis such action created. Even someone as depraved and irrational as Trump is not going to do that when there’s so much downside for USA. Not to to mention zero support from even Republicans in congress And North America is massive you can dit all of Europe into Canada. US military couldn’t POSSIBLY begin to control all of Canada or even the Canada USA border. As above American people and congress are not going to support killing hundreds of thousands of Canadians knowing Canada has done nothing to them just for the vanity of a one-term president who is the most unpopular and controversial in US history. And yes, those wars were abysmal. You’ll recall the Bush administration said the Iraq war would be a matter of a few weeks or months with virtually zero casualties, that American troops would be greeted as liberators. Killing civilians by the hundreds of thousands over the span of more than decade was not part of the plan and it took a HUGE portion of their military. They had up to 170,000 troops in Iraq. That war cost USA nearly A TRILLION DOLLARS 2003-2011. You can’t seriously think Trump can just decree that action and it will just be no problem. Dont forget even the MAGA movement claims to believe that MAGA is against foreign “forever wars” like Iraq and Afghanistan. No that’s never how it works. Once the occupier start killing innocent civilians in large numbers more people start JOINING the insurgents, not turning them in. If only 1% of the population turned up, that would be a larger insurgent force than what usa faced in Iraq or Afghanistan. Insurgency makes having “every kind of weapon” less relevant. They don’t have the force size to do that. Again it took 170,000 US troops to struggle to occupy Iraq for over a decade….Canada is 23x the size of Iraq. The border is nearly 9,000 km long. Even if they installed a Conservative Collaborator puppet regime to police Canadians there’s just too much territory to cover. And yet in the end who ended up running Afghanistan? Well they have not done it SUCCESSFULLY even once. And they have only done it against foreign dictatorships on the other side of the world that most Americans know nothing about. They’ve never done it against the friendly democratic country right next to them that is virtually culturally identical to Americans, a country that the majority of Americans have positive impression of, and that hasn’t done anything wrong. “We need to take their minerals” is not going to be acceptable to most Americans. Yes I think they’ll do more than just peacefully protest. But a lot of them are in Europe and Asia and USA will still need to keep defence posture in those other global regions, they can’t bring their entire military to Canada. Insurgents don’t defeat their enemy on the battlefield, they just bleed them of money and domestic political support And a war with no reason, justification or congressional approval against the friendliest of USA allies and neighbours, that American businesses rely on for billions of annual trade and investment, it ain’t happening to begin with But it’s certainly not one that could last with that kind of massive opposition. Bullshit...I'll give you a link that lays out every war or skirmish the US has had, and they were not all losses...OH Yes lets not forget Vietnam.... ... Iraq has new leadership, and a democratically elected government which is a win, Syria, also has new leadership, and ISIS was basically defeated by US forces another win......there is more but you read the link below... I was not arguing that the US would attack....it was your fantasy about Canadians rising up and taking back Canada...i was speaking out against...And I've said this over and over they do not have to control all of Canada....just the population centers and industrial areas...There is not going to be a massive refugee crises....they will simply lock the borders down no one in or out...As for not having enough troops Russia did pretty well locking it's country down and preventing freedom of movement with less troops.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States_in_the_20th_century Once again, it is you that said taking the war to US soft targets....what do you think this will do to US resolve....insurgency works both ways...Canadians start killing US Service personal and civilians your support in congress is going to evaporate....and while it does they will approve more and more military strikes, and the US people will be cheering them on...while Canadians start paying the price to keep their Canadian identities, which according to Justin liberals does not even exist... Your 1 % is a fantasy....Canadians have never shown up for anything in those numbers at least not in the last 50 years...but lets say your numbers are right, what is 1 % going to do no training, no weapons, no equipment, no experience, lets not even mention, where are they operating from, what are they using as shelter.....food, sustainment , medical means... i mean come on....But on the plus side the civil service could be an option...see how desperate that sounds...US weapons will never be irrelevant, that's why those Causality figures are so high... This fantasy conflict of your making won't happen because you wished it to, It will not happen because Canada has compromised for the good of it's own people... Not because a bunch of Canadians want to take on the US military one on one and have any hope of ending it without suffering catastrophic losses...US business will become rich rebuilding what left of the country, making it bigger and better than anything Canada could ever imagine...at least better than the any liberals could dream of... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Because of Trump i fully support Canada acquiring nuclear weapons as soon as they're able without getting invaded. That probably means whenever the Democrats are elected to POTUS next 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Army Guy Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Because of Trump i fully support Canada acquiring nuclear weapons as soon as they're able without getting invaded. That probably means whenever the Democrats are elected to POTUS next I don't even think we would be in trumps radar if we had been paying our 2 %...or living up to our other international commitments...we have been taking advantage of all of defensive packs in favor of other things like social programs....US citizens would love to have more social programs but can't... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Listen to what Europe and NATO leadership are talking about Trumps plan to annex Greenland... The question is who is going to challenge trump.. No one....and i ask one more question, what would stop him from doing the same with Canada....if no one stops Greenland acquisition and trump feels emboldened who would stand up for Canada...I mean it is not like we been an outstanding NATO member....or went out of our way on the inter national front. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I don't even think we would be in trumps radar if we had been paying our 2 % Denmark lives up to its obligations, and then some, according to a GOP senator who is on the NATO committee and yet Trump has a boner to invade. You just make stuff up to suit your own boner for Trump. Quote
Goddess Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 58 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Denmark lives up to its obligations, and then some, Yes. And then some. Denmark Forced Contraception on Greenlandic Girls, a Scathing Report Confirms - The New York Times Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: It was also Frum, btw, who said, in 2018 "If liberals say that only fascists will guard borders, the voters will hire fascists to do what liberals refuse to do." David Frum also famously said; "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: David Frum also famously said; "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." He was talking about American conservatives. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 On 1/9/2026 at 7:36 PM, TreeBeard said: We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. WTF, no wonder you people cheer on Hamas, you would be terrorists yourselves for crying out loud. For all the crying you do about laws of war and Israel making mistakes or just outright pushing Hamas propaganda, being upset about an attack on a Hospital, here you are advocating for targeting civilians. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Just now, I am Groot said: He was talking about American conservatives. Yeah, Canadian conservatives have to abandon conservatism to get anywhere. LMAO! 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 3 hours ago, eyeball said: David Frum also famously said; "If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." J F kennedy famously said : "If you make peaceful Revolution impossible you make violent revolution inevitable" There's nothing to do with conservatives. In fact there are more revolutions from the loony left than there are from the right Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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