Fluffypants Posted Sunday at 10:08 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:08 PM The case against him has finally begun and the prosecution has rested, after a bunch of witnesses were brought up with the same story. "Karmelo sat somewhere he wasn't supposed to (those tents act as lockerrooms people keep personal things there) was told 15 times to leave but he got an attitude and when Austin told him to leave he was reaching into his bag and said "touch me and see what happens" Austin shoves him Karmelo stabs him runs away throws the weapon and attempts to leave the stadium. The cops stop him and he says "he put his hands on me" and "there was no alleged I did it" Every witness said that Karmelo was the aggressor and was provoking Austin. Now if you ask the protestors what happened they will tell you without any evidence whatsoever that Karmelo was jumped by 4 guys for no reason because he was doing nuffin and he was just defending himself. There was one protestor that told a reporter she didn't care if Karmelo provoked it and was at fault she gonna still defend because hes black. Its pure insanity so get ready for the riots. One dude was outside yelling "Only good cracka is a dead cracka" Quote
robosmith Posted Sunday at 10:16 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:16 PM This has nothing to do with "Federal Politics in the US." Duh 4 Quote
Fluffypants Posted Sunday at 10:22 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 10:22 PM 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: This has nothing to do with "Federal Politics in the US." Duh Yeah it does, it is a high profile murder trial that speaks to our current political climate. Quote
robosmith Posted Monday at 12:31 AM Report Posted Monday at 12:31 AM 2 hours ago, Fluffypants said: Yeah it does, it is a high profile murder trial that speaks to our current political climate. It's not even a Federal case. No "Federal climate" involved. Quote
Reg Volk Posted Monday at 04:23 AM Report Posted Monday at 04:23 AM Yes the riots are coming. Just in time for the mid-terms. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Nationalist Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Report Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Fckin' pathetic. The paid for Tweenkie will go wild and the murderer will go free. The USA is going down to the same living Hell Canastan is. A North American race to the bottom. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Report Posted Monday at 02:41 PM 16 hours ago, robosmith said: This has nothing to do with "Federal Politics in the US." Duh Sure it does. A black guy killed a white guy. That's all this story needs. Now what's NOT "Federal Politics" is your crybaby thread about West downvoting your ass. Quote
robosmith Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Report Posted Monday at 04:48 PM 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Fckin' pathetic. The paid for Tweenkie will go wild and the murderer will go free. The USA is going down to the same living Hell Canastan is. A North American race to the bottom. ^FOS as USUAL. This is about Texas. What you ^ALLEGE never happens in Texas. They will find a way to nail the black guy. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted Monday at 05:05 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:05 PM 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^FOS as USUAL. This is about Texas. What you ^ALLEGE never happens in Texas. They will find a way to nail the black guy. The location is Texas. The topic is racial relations in America. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Fluffypants Posted Monday at 05:10 PM Author Report Posted Monday at 05:10 PM 21 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^FOS as USUAL. This is about Texas. What you ^ALLEGE never happens in Texas. They will find a way to nail the black guy. Have you educated yourself on this case at all? 1 Quote
robosmith Posted Monday at 06:51 PM Report Posted Monday at 06:51 PM 1 hour ago, Fluffypants said: Have you educated yourself on this case at all? I read your bullshit post. If you failed to post the FACTS, that's on you. Quote
Nationalist Posted Monday at 07:06 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:06 PM 2 hours ago, robosmith said: ^FOS as USUAL. This is about Texas. What you ^ALLEGE never happens in Texas. They will find a way to nail the black guy. As they should...regardless of his skin color...you fckin' racist. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted Monday at 07:36 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:36 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: I read your bullshit post. If you failed to post the FACTS, that's on you. You reveal yourself to be ignorant of current topics. This case is all over nightly news and major publications. The trial has revealed that KA was using another team's tent. When he was asked to leave, he refused. A pushing match ensued. KA left the tent, pulled a knife and came back to stab the kid that asked KA to leave. The entire enteraction was on video and there were multiple witnesses. It is as open and shut as any case could be. They have motive. They have opportunity. They have the body. They have the weapon. They have DNA. They have video evidence. He should have plead guilty. But his family got a ton of money for his "defense". I am guessing the defense team wanted part of the action and the family wanted part of the action so they convinced this stúpid kid to plead innocent. His life is over now. He will not be let go from jail. Edited Monday at 08:36 PM by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted Monday at 07:52 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:52 PM 45 minutes ago, Nationalist said: As they should...regardless of his skin color...you fckin' racist. Just the REALITY IN TEXAS, lDIOT. They are the racists and you are ILLITERATE. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted Monday at 08:36 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:36 PM (edited) 44 minutes ago, robosmith said: Just the REALITY IN TEXAS, lDIOT. They are the racists and you are ILLITERATE. What a bigoted and ignorant response. Edited to add: And racist response. The overwhelming evidence points to guilty and skin color has nothing to do with it. Other than there is some evidence that KA wanted to kill a white person. Some believe he was baiting a fight so he could kill a white guy. I have not seen proof of KA's motivations, but the evidence does show that KA provoked the fight and initiated the violence. Edited Monday at 08:40 PM by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted Monday at 09:43 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:43 PM 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: What a bigoted and ignorant response. Edited to add: And racist response. The overwhelming evidence points to guilty and skin color has nothing to do with it. Other than there is some evidence that KA wanted to kill a white person. Some believe he was baiting a fight so he could kill a white guy. I have not seen proof of KA's motivations, but the evidence does show that KA provoked the fight and initiated the violence. You're IGNORING the FACT that right wingers HERE are saying he'll get away with murder. All I said is HE WON'T because Texans will find a way to make sure he DOES NOT. AKA they will IGNORE ANY and ALL testimony that he was innoncent. You are just as ILLITERATE as gnat girl. LMAO 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted Monday at 10:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 10:03 PM 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: You're IGNORING the FACT that right wingers HERE are saying he'll get away with murder. Who? I did not see anyone say that. You are lying. 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: All I said is HE WON'T because Texans will find a way to make sure he DOES NOT. And that is why you are bigoted and racist. 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: You are just as ILLITERATE as gnat girl. LMAO I knew the facts of the case. You just made up some bigoted/racist bull shit because it fit your fantasy world. His skin color has nothing to do with his guilt. He is guilty because he did it. But, you are racist. You believe skin color matters whether it is black, white, brown or anything else. You believe skin color is a qualifying and disqualifying aspect for crimes, public office and jobs. You are the one that is race centric and choosing one race over another. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted Monday at 11:17 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:17 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You reveal yourself to be ignorant of current topics. This case is all over nightly news and major publications. The trial has revealed that KA was using another team's tent. When he was asked to leave, he refused. A pushing match ensued. KA left the tent, pulled a knife and came back to stab the kid that asked KA to leave. The entire enteraction was on video and there were multiple witnesses. It is as open and shut as any case could be. They have motive. They have opportunity. They have the body. They have the weapon. They have DNA. They have video evidence. He should have plead guilty. But his family got a ton of money for his "defense". I am guessing the defense team wanted part of the action and the family wanted part of the action so they convinced this stúpid kid to plead innocent. His life is over now. He will not be let go from jail. Texas is a "Stand your ground state." There is no duty to retreat. This is the kind of madness you guys love. Apparently Anthony was outnumbered, surrounded by bigger, hostile guys and was on the receiving end of physical aggression rather than initiating it. Tell me why it's not a case of self defense under this set of laws? Is there anything about Anthony (any reason at all, ahem) that would keep the regular crowd here from supporting him? Any difference? I'll hold my breath. Edited Monday at 11:18 PM by Hodad 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted Monday at 11:29 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:29 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Who? I did not see anyone say that. You are lying. Oh, you believe because you didn't see something means it didn't happen. Can you get any MORE LAME? LMAO gnat girl alleged he will get away with murder. It's right at the top of this page and you "didn't see it." LMAO 12 hours ago, Nationalist said: Fckin' pathetic. The paid for Tweenkie will go wild and the murderer will go free. The USA is going down to the same living Hell Canastan is. A North American race to the bottom. 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: And that is why you are bigoted and racist. Nothing racist about claiming Texans are racist. You guya are famous for mass shootings, like the guy who went to a Walmart to kill Mexicans. 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: I knew the facts of the case. You just made up some bigoted/racist bull shit because it fit your fantasy world. His skin color has nothing to do with his guilt. He is guilty because he did it. His skin color has everthing to do with the people defending him, and he wouldn't have a chance of getting off without those people. Duh. 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: But, you are racist. You believe skin color matters whether it is black, white, brown or anything else. You believe skin color is a qualifying and disqualifying aspect for crimes, public office and jobs. You are the one that is race centric and choosing one race over another. Far from it. What I believe is that MANY in YOUR STATE are racist. If you disagree STATE WHY. But so far you've got NO REASON. Edited Tuesday at 01:45 AM by robosmith Quote
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 01:37 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:37 AM 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Texas is a "Stand your ground state." There is no duty to retreat. This is the kind of madness you guys love. Well, not exactly. Let's be thorough instead of relying on your inaccurate generalization: Texas stand your ground summary Quote No Duty to Retreat: You are not required to back away or attempt to flee if you are confronted with danger in a place you have a legal right to be (e.g., in public, your car, or workplace). Proportionality: The level of force you use must be immediately necessary and proportional to the threat you are facing. Deadly force is only justified if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent imminent death, serious bodily injury, or a violent crime like aggravated kidnapping or sexual assault. No Criminal Activity: The protection does not apply if you are actively engaged in criminal activity (other than a Class C traffic violation) at the time of the incident. Not the Aggressor: You cannot claim self-defense if you provoked the attacker or started the confrontation. So he had no duty to retreat and he was not being a criminal. However, he was the aggressor and his response was not proportional. He was in the wrong. 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Apparently Anthony was outnumbered, surrounded by bigger, hostile guys and was on the receiving end of physical aggression rather than initiating it. Actually, that is not what the video shows. It was one on one. Anthony left and came back with the knife. He was the aggressor. That is what all of the students said. Four of the six students that said KA was the aggressor were black (because that is important to you), they asked him to leave multiple times and the victim repeatedly said he did not want to fight. 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Tell me why it's not a case of self defense under this set of laws? Is there anything about Anthony (any reason at all, ahem) that would keep the regular crowd here from supporting him? Any difference? I'll hold my breath. Racist much? I know you guys live to say you aren't. But give me one reason, THAT IS REAL, why he shouldn't be convicted? Like I said before, the evidence is overwhelming. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 01:49 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 01:49 AM 9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Racist much? I know you guys live to say you aren't. But give me one reason, THAT IS REAL, why he shouldn't be convicted? Like I said before, the evidence is overwhelming. You don't get to decide what testimony is "real." Thanks for proving my contention that Texans will reject any testimony which says he's innocent. LMAO 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Texas is a "Stand your ground state." There is no duty to retreat. This is the kind of madness you guys love. Apparently Anthony was outnumbered, surrounded by bigger, hostile guys and was on the receiving end of physical aggression rather than initiating it. Tell me why it's not a case of self defense under this set of laws? Is there anything about Anthony (any reason at all, ahem) that would keep the regular crowd here from supporting him? Any difference? I'll hold my breath. He stabbed a young guy at a track event! I swear...you are just a twit. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 02:09 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:09 AM 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Oh, you believe because you didn't something means it didn't happen. Can you get any MORE LAME? LMAO gnat girl alleged he will get away with murder. It's right at the top of this page and you "didn't see it." LMAO You said "right wingers". That is just one. And that isn't a prediction but a sarcastic statement. So you know what sarcasm is? 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Nothing racist about claiming Texans are racist. You guya are famous for mass shootings, like the guy who went to a Walmart to kill Mexicans. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Nothing racist about claiming Texans are racist. You guya are famous for mass shootings, like the guy who went to a Walmart to kill Mexicans. So one person means the whole group is the same? Does that mean all Democrats are KKK members like Senator Byrd? Or Nazi's like Graham? As someone that lives in Texas, I can promise you that Cali is far more racist...as you have demonstrated here. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: His skin color has everthing to do with the people defending him, and he wouldn't have a chance of getting off without those people. Duh. No he wouldn't. That is a racist assumption. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Far from it. What I believe is that MANY in YOUR STATE are racist. If you disagree STATE WHY. But so far you've got NO REASON. You never gave a reason why, other than that is what you believe. Why should I have to meet a higher standard than you set for yourself? 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 02:12 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:12 AM 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: You don't get to decide what testimony is "real." I didn't. Real is real. No one chooses reality, it just is. 21 minutes ago, robosmith said: Thanks for proving my contention that Texans will reject any testimony which says he's innocent. LMAO Quote that testimony. I never saw a single statement from a witness that he was defending himself. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted Tuesday at 05:39 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:39 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Well, not exactly. Let's be thorough instead of relying on your inaccurate generalization: Texas stand your ground summary So he had no duty to retreat and he was not being a criminal. However, he was the aggressor and his response was not proportional. He was in the wrong. He was not a physical aggressor. He took shelter from the rain in an opposing team's tent. He also refused to leave. That's not being an aggressor. The guy to assaulted him was, apparently, MUCH bigger--83 pounds heavier. And accompanied by his twin brother and other teammates. So Anthony was rather dramatically outmatched and outnumbered. Again, understand that he had a legal right to be there and no duty to retreat, and did not initiate any physical confrontation--and in fact warned the bigger guy against attacking him. His presence might have been annoying, but it wasn't illegal. We have seen people get off over and over again in scenarios like this (and far worse) under SYG laws. The deceased shouldn't have initiated a physical confrontation. Quote Actually, that is not what the video shows. It was one on one. Anthony left and came back with the knife. He was the aggressor. That is what all of the students said. Four of the six students that said KA was the aggressor were black (because that is important to you), they asked him to leave multiple times and the victim repeatedly said he did not want to fight. I don't see it reported anywhere that he left the tent and then returned with a knife. That seems to be false. All reports I'm seeing are that he had the knife in the backpack all along. 4 of 6 students who were the deceased student's teammates, right? They asked him to leave, but he had no obligation to comply. And the deceased had no right to escalate to a physical assault. They could have been chill and chatted with Anthony. They could have ignored him. They could have flagged down an adult/authority. What they ultimately did (assaulting Anthony) was a kid thing to do, but clearly the wrong thing. And yes, I absolutely and unequivocally think that you people will view and react to this incident differently because the killer is Black. You people prove over and over again that your racial biases override your logic. Edited Tuesday at 05:41 AM by Hodad 1 Quote
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