I am Groot Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/7/2026 at 8:27 PM, TreeBeard said: Where do you think we will get the tax money for aircraft carriers? You think a big GST hike? Massive service cuts? What will get us $6B for a couple aircraft carriers + nuclear subs and a nuclear weapons program that will probably cost about $5B per year? (UK equivalent program) I was reading an article on Denmark the other day that pointed out it doesn't mess around with taxing just the rich. It taxes everyone. Even poor people pay income tax, and everyone pays the VAT of 25%. In Canada, almost half of Canadians pay no income tax. The number continually rises as grandstanding politicians make grandiose promises about tax-free payments to poor people and lowering their tax rate (as Carney recently did), leaving the cost of the state to be born by an increasingly smaller number of people. Our GST is a mere 5% and the state refunds it to poor people. This may perhaps go a long way to explaining why Denmark has almost no debt while Canada is staggering under a growing debt burden. Edited January 9 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 I am pasting this from X because I think it's an intelligently and thoughtfully written and clearly explained definition of our relationship with the US, and quite applicable to this discussion. James E. Thorne - Wellington-Altus Chief Market Strategist Mark Carney and most Canadians are behaving as if Canada is an independent pole in a multipolar order, when the world he actually inhabits is a hierarchy being brutally clarified by Washington. Trump’s revamped National Security Strategy and the “Trump Corollary” — asserted through the seizure of Nicolás Maduro and open threats toward Cuba and Colombia, make plain that the United States now treats the Western Hemisphere as an American security estate, not a debating society among equals. In that framework, Canada is not a co‑author of the rules. It is a dependency inside the U.S. sphere, structurally lashed to American markets, finance and supply chains. AND after decades without a serious sovereign industrial or energy strategy, Canada is at best a weak Middle Power, that has for decades squandered its competitive advantage through proformative politics and virtue signalling. In this era, the Western Hemisphere is now a “secure production platform” for American industry and technology, defined not by territorial control but by ownership, access, and compliance. The Trump doctrine logic is clear and blunt yet internally coherent: if the Western Hemisphere's natural resources and supply chains are secured, the economic and geopolitical dividends will follow. Carney’s answer to the Trump Doctrine, however, remains the same “City‑of‑London” orthodoxy that produced him: more proformative political grandstanding, more process, more declarations, more meetings, and more boondoggles. The Greenland consulate, rhetorical red lines over annexation, the flying around the world, and ritual protests against U.S. action in Venezuela all presume that we still live in the post-WWII rules-based order. We do not! Will live in the era of the Trump Doctrine, and no we can’t wait it out. And in this era, Greenland will not be allowed to be under the influence of Russia or China. Thucydides warned that “the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” Carney’s tragedy is that he quotes the rules‑based order while presiding over a country whose economic structure is colonial and whose security ultimately depends on the very power he is theatrically chastising. Posturing without power is not prudence. It is provocation without a plan. And yes, it’s dangerous. The irony is that Carney understands all of this perfectly well, which only sharpens the question: what, exactly, is he doing by posturing as a rules‑based equal in a hierarchy where he knows Canada lacks the hard power to back his stance? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Legato Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 11 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Shuttles to Mars! Sign up for CASA! You’d be a great astronaut…. head in the clouds and all. Eyes wide shut. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: I was reading an article on Denmark the other day that pointed out it doesn't mess around with taxing just the rich. It taxes everyone. Even poor people pay income tax, and everyone pays the VAT of 25%. In Canada, almost half of Canadians pay no income tax. The number continually rises as grandstanding politicians make grandiose promises about tax-free payments to poor people and lowering their tax rate (as Carney recently did), leaving the cost of the state to be born by an increasingly smaller number of people. Our GST is a mere 5% and the state refunds it to poor people. This may perhaps go a long way to explaining why Denmark has almost no debt while Canada is staggering under a growing debt burden. 50%+ income tax on higher incomes. You’d scream bloody murder! 😂 Quote
I am Groot Posted January 9 Report Posted January 9 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: 50%+ income tax on higher incomes. You’d scream bloody murder! 😂 I pay nearly that now, and still have to pay thousands extra for a private doctor and for occasional visits to specialists in the US or Quebec because I don't want to wait two years in Ontario. I also get crime-ridden streets which, btw, are riddled with potholes. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
BeaverFever Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 8 hours ago, I am Groot said: I am pasting this from X because I think it's an intelligently and thoughtfully written and clearly explained definition of our relationship with the US, and quite applicable to this discussion. James E. Thorne - Wellington-Altus Chief Market Strategist Mark Carney and most Canadians are behaving as if Canada is an independent pole in a multipolar order, when the world he actually inhabits is a hierarchy being brutally clarified by Washington. Trump’s revamped National Security Strategy and the “Trump Corollary” — asserted through the seizure of Nicolás Maduro and open threats toward Cuba and Colombia, make plain that the United States now treats the Western Hemisphere as an American security estate, not a debating society among equals. In that framework, Canada is not a co‑author of the rules. It is a dependency inside the U.S. sphere, structurally lashed to American markets, finance and supply chains. AND after decades without a serious sovereign industrial or energy strategy, Canada is at best a weak Middle Power, that has for decades squandered its competitive advantage through proformative politics and virtue signalling. In this era, the Western Hemisphere is now a “secure production platform” for American industry and technology, defined not by territorial control but by ownership, access, and compliance. The Trump doctrine logic is clear and blunt yet internally coherent: if the Western Hemisphere's natural resources and supply chains are secured, the economic and geopolitical dividends will follow. Carney’s answer to the Trump Doctrine, however, remains the same “City‑of‑London” orthodoxy that produced him: more proformative political grandstanding, more process, more declarations, more meetings, and more boondoggles. The Greenland consulate, rhetorical red lines over annexation, the flying around the world, and ritual protests against U.S. action in Venezuela all presume that we still live in the post-WWII rules-based order. We do not! Will live in the era of the Trump Doctrine, and no we can’t wait it out. And in this era, Greenland will not be allowed to be under the influence of Russia or China. Thucydides warned that “the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” Carney’s tragedy is that he quotes the rules‑based order while presiding over a country whose economic structure is colonial and whose security ultimately depends on the very power he is theatrically chastising. Posturing without power is not prudence. It is provocation without a plan. And yes, it’s dangerous. The irony is that Carney understands all of this perfectly well, which only sharpens the question: what, exactly, is he doing by posturing as a rules‑based equal in a hierarchy where he knows Canada lacks the hard power to back his stance? I mostly agree with the points about Canada having a colonial economic structure and having squandered past opportunity. I disagree that dividends will follow from obeisance to Trump I disagree that Carney is still pretending we are still in a rules based world in fact Carney has made that clear repeatedly. The author makes the mistake of suggesting we have moved from a multipolar world to a unipolar American lead one but the fact is its the opposite. American global hegemony has slipped away as BRICS countries continue to grow their economies and influence and as USA suffers internal diseases from social, political and cultural decay, and humiliation on the global stage in Iraq and Afghanistan and the financial crisis, culminating in the election of someone so obviously inept and dishonourable and unrespectable as Donald Trump. Carney understands that Canada needs to diversify away from USA to team up with like-minded countries and, at least in the short term, also play realpolitik with other less savoury global players like India, UAE and even China. I don’t see posturing. And let’s not pretend that Americans are some invincible supermen who have no weaknesses and need nothing from the rest of the world. That’s the American Exceptionalism mythology that every child in the US is indoctrinated with and that’s the subtext of Hollywood movie propaganda, but it’s not the case. The other countries of the world have cards to play against America, they have vulnerabilities and they have needs that they can’t meet on their own. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 10 Author Report Posted January 10 On 1/7/2026 at 10:55 PM, Army Guy said: If trump wanted Canada he could have it under 24 hours, and you and i would be learning the American anthem... That’s what they said about Iraq. Invasion is the easy part. Occupation is something America could never successfully achieve and the countries it’s tried and failed to occupy are a tiny sliver of the size of Canada and didn’t share an almost 9,000 km border with them. The peak of the US surge in Iraq saw 170,000 troops and our landmass is 23 times the size of Iraq and our terrain isn’t all open landscape with no cover 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 45 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: That’s what they said about Iraq. Invasion is the easy part. Occupation is something America could never successfully achieve and the countries it’s tried and failed to occupy are a tiny sliver of the size of Canada and didn’t share an almost 9,000 km border with them. The peak of the US surge in Iraq saw 170,000 troops and our landmass is 23 times the size of Iraq and our terrain isn’t all open landscape with no cover Iraq had better equipment and a massive army....and the Iraqi people are much different than Canadians, they are hard, and very religious enough so they would sacrifice themselves for their beliefs...your not going to find that here in Canada...we are soft, your not going to find the patriotism or fanaticism you find in Iraq... 72 % of Canadians polled said they would do something....13 % said they would join the military....wow it shows how patriotic Canadians really are....Another 26 % said they would be willing to join some form of civil defense, but not fight...and 39 % percent said they would take part in non violent protests...Again I'm astonished at what canadians will do... Quote We asked, first, “What actions would you take, if any, to fight to defend Canada against a military attack and invasion or occupation by a hostile foreign power?” More than 72 per cent of respondents said they’d take at least some action given a list of alternatives, with about 26 per cent willing to volunteer for civil defence and 13 per cent willing to volunteer for military service. If Canada were defeated and occupied by another country, more than half of those polled said they’d undertake some kind of resistance, including nearly 39 per cent who’d participate in non-violent protests, economic disruption and civil disobedience. And almost 15 per cent would “engage in violent resistance.” Quote A particularly striking poll result was that 16 per cent of Canadians were “absolutely” prepared to die defending Canada, and an additional 22 per cent were prepared to die “depending on the circumstances.” This total of 38 per cent represents more than 12 million people. Members of any Canadian insurgency fighting a military occupation would therefore have a vast supporting population into which they could vanish to sustain their fight. https://cascadeinstitute.org/willing-to-fight-op-ed/ Of those 12 million people , how many of them are fighting age people, 18 and 50 years old...And those numbers would quickly drop off once these eager people saw combat and all of it's effects....Not to mention, what are they fighting with, what weapons are they using?, (granpas dirty old shotgun) what ammo? what equipment ? what food, what fuel, what shelter, just the elements alone would take most of your force....and attacking a well armed military with grandpas shot gun is suicidal... Americans have more than 170,000 light infantry, not to mention marines, and lets not even count the large mechanized forces for follow up....and we have not talked about national guards units, or reserve units... I find it funny when i hear all this bravado from Canadians we would fight them, who most if not all of them have not even experienced the environment under extreme conditions...you literally live like an animal, no running water, no bathing for weeks at a time, no regular food supply, and to do all of this with no technology, i mean want to die use your cell phone, start a generator, anything electrical, .....or seen, heard, smelled, touched, what it is like to be in combat....and with out any training or no experience they will be hunted down like dogs....and disposed of....Yes some are going to survive and become hardened.... a very small percentage.... And they don't have to control all of Canada, just the major city centers , towns anything that there is industry, or a means of suvival....they don't care about the whole country... So ya the invasion is the easy part....but all this bravado will quickly fade when it starts costing Canadians there lives...and once the Americans start losing people , all that compassion they once showed Canadians will be gone...to them you will become nothing more than a figure 11 target... https://angusreid.org/canada-volunteer-military-service/ Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 5 hours ago, I am Groot said: I pay nearly that now, and still have to pay thousands extra for a private doctor and for occasional visits to specialists in the US or Quebec because I don't want to wait two years in Ontario. I also get crime-ridden streets which, btw, are riddled with potholes. Tax-free day for the average Canadian is after June 1st. The vast majority of us pay 50% in taxes. Tax Freedom Day | Fraser Institute And the wealthy pay more. That's what these leftists don't realize. They've been screaming about how taxes should be higher for so long that taxes are higher and they just didn't notice. How much more than 50% of your income in taxes is fair? How much does the average person have to pay before they're paying their fair share of tax when the country literally takes half of everything you earn? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. Or a sniper outside of school. Are on a hilltop across from a shopping mall. It wouldn't take long before Americans were afraid to go outside. Fighting a geurilla war inside america is not something any of them would be excited about Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
cougar Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Or a sniper outside of school. Are on a hilltop across from a shopping mall. It wouldn't take long before Americans were afraid to go outside. Fighting a geurilla war inside america is not something any of them would be excited about I would rather see them in a civil war among themselves. How many cities need to be occupied by ICE agents and how many peaceful protesters need to be killed before it happens? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 36 minutes ago, cougar said: I would rather see them in a civil war among themselves. How many cities need to be occupied by ICE agents and how many peaceful protesters need to be killed before it happens? A lot more...Americans kill each other to the tune of 20,000+ homicides each year, mostly by firearm, regardless of ICE. Also, when I go to the gun range, I never see any pink haired women with septum rings...that's a major MAGA advantage. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
I am Groot Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, TreeBeard said: We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. Oh, FFS, stop thinking like a terrorist. You want to win against the US, you send some JTF2 guys down, break them into groups, hit Republican senators and congressmen who are in states with Democratic governors. Which means the Democrats appoint their replacements. For that matter, hit the prez and vp. Their security isn't set up to fight off special forces with anti-armor missiles and the like. Neither is the minimal security around cabinet ministers or the military chiefs. Aside from the politicians who started the war, you blow up bridges, power relay stations in the cities, power plants, oil pipeline pumping stations, water and sewer lines, train lines, port loading and fueling facilities. You can cause chaos with minimal or no civilian deaths easily enough. Edited January 10 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 5 hours ago, cougar said: I would rather see them in a civil war among themselves. How many cities need to be occupied by ICE agents and how many peaceful protesters need to be killed before it happens? The shooting was stupid. The guy could have stepped a foot to the side a lot faster and easier. At the same time, the woman involved was a brainless twat. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: 72 % of Canadians polled said they would do something....13 % said they would join the military....wow it shows how patriotic Canadians really are....Another 26 % said they would be willing to join some form of civil defense, but not fight...and 39 % percent said they would take part in non violent protests...Again I'm astonished at what canadians will do... Canadians are, by and large, a very passive people. Yeah, they'd 'do something'. They'd write furious posts on social media. The lefties would demonstrate. 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: Of those 12 million people , how many of them are fighting age people, 18 and 50 years old... And how many of THEM are foreigners who came here to make money, and have no particular affection for Canada? Many of them would be delighted to now be able to work anywhere in America. And of the rest, well, they've been raised to believe Canada is an illegitimate country on stolen land, a non-nation with no core identity that is genocidal and racist, that they must forever bow their heads in guilt and shame for being white and accept all the cultural beliefs and behaviours of newcomers while defending none of their own. They must always accept that in anything they apply for, they will be in the back of the line, as corporations and government, including colleges, give open and proud preference to immigrants over them. What exactly would they be fighting for again? 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That’s what they said about Iraq. Invasion is the easy part. Occupation is something America could never successfully achieve and the countries it’s tried and failed to occupy are a tiny sliver of the size of Canada and didn’t share an almost 9,000 km border with them. The peak of the US surge in Iraq saw 170,000 troops and our landmass is 23 times the size of Iraq and our terrain isn’t all open landscape with no cover Ever heard of Japan? Germany? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: I mostly agree with the points about Canada having a colonial economic structure and having squandered past opportunity. I disagree that dividends will follow from obeisance to Trump It's worked for Europe and other countries. Hell, Qatar gave the orange man a used airplane and now he's their b1tch, promising to use US troops to defend them. 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: I disagree that Carney is still pretending we are still in a rules based world in fact Carney has made that clear repeatedly. Disagree. His words and actions show he still believes Canada has a level of independence it probably doesn't. 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The author makes the mistake of suggesting we have moved from a multipolar world to a unipolar American lead one but the fact is its the opposite. What he actually said was that the Western Hemisphere is a unipolar American-led area. Trump has pretty much said as much through capturing Maduro and threatening everyone from Colombia and Mexico to Canada and Greenland with military force, not to mention using economic blackmail to get his way. Under that scenario, doing things like going to China to try and diversify our trade is likely to provoke Trump if it leads to anything substantial. I've said before that the reason Trump won't give him a deal is that it's not just about trade. They want an end to Chinese influence (which, btw, was one of the reasons they hit Maduro). And instead, Carney is doubling down on that. They want a crackdown on money laundering and organized crime (both of which thrive here), and Carney is refusing because doing anything about crime is not the Liberal way. They want an end to mass immigration of unscreened people, many of them Muslims, and again, Carney refuses because Muslims might hate Americans and be seen as a terrorist threat, but they vote Liberal, and that's all that matters to him. 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: culminating in the election of someone so obviously inept and dishonourable and unrespectable as Donald Trump. The guy you need to worry about is the Republican who succeeds Trump being of the same mindset but a lot smarter and more energetic. 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Carney understands that Canada needs to diversify away from USA to team up with like-minded countries and, at least in the short term, also play realpolitik with other less savoury global players like India, UAE and even China. I don’t see posturing. I don't see anything good coming out of China, and I don't see India being interested in helping us out until the Liberals reject Sikh separatism instead of cultivating it as a valuable voting bloc. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
John Stone Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) 35 minutes ago, I am Groot said: It's worked for Europe and other countries. Hell, Qatar gave the orange man a used airplane and now he's their b1tch, promising to use US troops to defend them. Disagree. His words and actions show he still believes Canada has a level of independence it probably doesn't. What he actually said was that the Western Hemisphere is a unipolar American-led area. Trump has pretty much said as much through capturing Maduro and threatening everyone from Colombia and Mexico to Canada and Greenland with military force, not to mention using economic blackmail to get his way. Under that scenario, doing things like going to China to try and diversify our trade is likely to provoke Trump if it leads to anything substantial. I've said before that the reason Trump won't give him a deal is that it's not just about trade. They want an end to Chinese influence (which, btw, was one of the reasons they hit Maduro). And instead, Carney is doubling down on that. They want a crackdown on money laundering and organized crime (both of which thrive here), and Carney is refusing because doing anything about crime is not the Liberal way. They want an end to mass immigration of unscreened people, many of them Muslims, and again, Carney refuses because Muslims might hate Americans and be seen as a terrorist threat, but they vote Liberal, and that's all that matters to him. The guy you need to worry about is the Republican who succeeds Trump being of the same mindset but a lot smarter and more energetic. I don't see anything good coming out of China, and I don't see India being interested in helping us out until the Liberals reject Sikh separatism instead of cultivating it as a valuable voting bloc. Those that study these things would agree that Western democracy is on the decline. A lot of this decline can be attributed to social media (state sponsored) and it's deluge of rhetoric (domestically driven) Those democracies that still exist, exist and govern (??) under a cloud of suspicion. Once sacred institutions are now questioned severely - there is an increasing lack of respect to say the least - probably justified. One wag is quoted as saying that Democracy has a tendency to commit suicide - it votes itself out of existence? The United States today is the most powerful (Constitutional) democracy in the World, measured by any metric. However, the U.S. and a host of other countries Achilles heel is their system of government - whether the white cat or the black is in control. Time works for those that have a wish to make democratic countries, irrelevant as a geo-political player. There is no heaven per se, heaven is here on earth - we're just fk'n it up and will continue to do so. Increasingly, the United States, is a misnomer. Edited January 10 by John Stone Quote
Army Guy Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 14 hours ago, TreeBeard said: We wouldn’t win a fight with their military. But we would blow stuff up across the border. Imagine a bomb at a Seahawks game. Or a bomb on a Washington State ferry. Lots of soft targets for Canadians to blow up. You don't get it, their military would be hunting for anyone that was a terrorist or wannabe .....with resources not seen here in Canada, there would be no where to hide....SO ya you can join up, but make sure all your affairs are in order....you might be able to burn them a couple of times, but after that security will be to tight for you and your little gang.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 10 hours ago, cougar said: I would rather see them in a civil war among themselves. How many cities need to be occupied by ICE agents and how many peaceful protesters need to be killed before it happens? As many as it takes, would be my guess, before the Citizens realize they are not playing games they have a job to do, now if you want to F around, then your going to find out....what powers they have and what little powers you have....Citizens should be avoiding areas in which these agencies are working in at all costs....now if it is your choice to inter act with these agencies....you might end up in custody....or worse... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You don't get it, their military would be hunting for anyone that was a terrorist or wannabe .....with resources not seen here in Canada, there would be no where to hide....SO ya you can join up, but make sure all your affairs are in order....you might be able to burn them a couple of times, but after that security will be to tight for you and your little gang.... You’d be the first traitor in line. I get it. Did you not swear an oath? I thought those were important to you people. Quote
I am Groot Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 5 hours ago, John Stone said: However, the U.S. and a host of other countries Achilles heel is their system of government - whether the white cat or the black is in control. I think our achilles heel is our education systems. If the West fails it won't be because of a crazed Muslim with a sword and a torch it will be because of neomarxist professors at our universities. Though honestly, that can be attributed to bad government that took its eye off the ball and then just found it easier to go along to get along. There was too much downside in taking on universities and not enough upside for people whose entire existence runs in four-year election cycles.We let them become ideological social justice factories and did nothing about it. They indoctrinated year after year of young people with twisted ideas and slanted curriculum, and a mentality that says dialogue is old-school and white supremacist types. We let them gatekeep occupations like law, making sure the students who got in were those who thought like them, then further indoctrinated them. They turned the teaching colleges into social justice factories and churned out teachers determined to teach children to think like they did, sending their indoctrination and guiltmongering downrange to high schools and grade schools and did nothing. We let their zealots take over the regulatory bodies of everything from doctors and nurses to lawyers and accountants, and impose groupthink on all their members. So it was the universities who did it, but our governments that let them. And it was Abraham Lincoln who said that "The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next." The Left took that to heart. The Right still hasn't, or simply doesn't care. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 12 hours ago, cougar said: I would rather see them in a civil war among themselves. How many cities need to be occupied by ICE agents and how many peaceful protesters need to be killed before it happens? Well this was my argument Above where I said all we need to do is wind the major highways leading into the states back to the united states and they'll wind up invading themselves because god knows they can't read Canadian Maps "SURRENDER MANITOBA!!" " Sir, this is Wisconsin and you are at burger king" Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 45 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You’d be the first traitor in line. LOL, carrot farts from the brave little bunny watching John Wick on NETFIX... 1 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: You’d be the first traitor in line. I get it. Did you not swear an oath? I thought those were important to you people. You don't know me, i am forth generation of my family to serve....I think i have paid back any debt i owe this country in spades , i just wish my country gave as much sacrifice as our serving soldiers do now, I waited over 34 years for Canadians to wake up and take our country security seriously, or at least have our backs ensuring our government did not abuse it's military like they have.........so you'll have to excuse me when i don't really give a rats ass about what you think about my loyalty, or integrity of my oath, to which is not even to Canada but to the monarchy... I'm retired, and to old to be running around with a bunch of wannabes....It is too late for Canadians to be taken trumps threats seriously now, you missed the boat.....want to play Rambo, do what we had to do in the military, adapt, overcome, learn how to do things without any resources.....we have had decades to prepare for a world that is upside down....our priorities were social, programs, DEI, LGBTQ rights, enriching Indigenous peoples because of white guilt, and fake climate change... and many many other useless programs....You can't point a finger at any one that served, we warned you over and over again........Canadians have the security they wanted all along, now live with it.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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