Question for Trudeau Haters....

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Discrimination against Jews is a world-wide fact and has been going on for 1,700 years culminating in the holocaust.  The U.N. is anti-Jewish and passed many motions against Israel.  Muslims are not discriminated against in Israel.  They hold elected office and are the major workers in the construction and trucking industries.

But it is a mistake to think followers of all religions are being persecuted to the extent of persecution against Jews and Christians around the world.  I gave you the statistics but you simply ignore them.  Muslims are not persecuted in western countries to any degree, but Christians are widely persecuted around the world.  

This is not a pissing contest.

Your selected religion is no more or no less discriminated against as any other religion. It all depends on what God you worship..

Religious persecution is just the way it is and has always been. Numbers of people in a particular religion does not make one worse than the other.

And, Islamophobia is rampant in the western world.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

This is not a pissing contest.

Your selected religion is no more or no less discriminated against as any other religion. It all depends on what God you worship..

Religious persecution is just the way it is and has always been. Numbers of people in a particular religion does not make one worse than the other.

And, Islamophobia is rampant in the western world.

What facts do you have to back up your claim that Christianity is no more or no less discriminated against than any other religion?   Obviously just your biased opinion.

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Over the past year, I have written of the intolerance that Christians have shown to Muslims in the U.S. From Missouri to Murphreesboro, Christians have demonstrated both a lack of charity and a denial of the right to religious liberty by setting fire to old mosques and opposing new ones. But Christians in the U.S. are rank amateurs compared to the Muslim persecution of Christians in the Middle East.

In early November, German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that Christianity is "the most persecuted religion in the world." Although met with predictable criticism, Rupert Short's recent research report for Civitas UK confirms Merkel's claim -- we may not want to hear it, but Christianity is in peril, like no other religion. While this is a contest no one wants to win, Short shows that "Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers." Short is the author of the recently published Christianophobia: A Faith Under Attack. He is concerned that "200 million Christians (10 percent of the global total) are socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs."

Christianity is facing elimination in its Biblical homeland. Between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have departed or been killed over the past century. Short attributes the intolerance and violence towards Christians to the rising Islamicization of Middle Eastern countries. Some of the oppression is government sanctioned and some government permitted; most is government ignored.

Short looks at the plight of Christians in the Middle East, country by country. When it comes to religious oppression, the devil, one might say, is in the details.   unquote   Continued at:

The Most Persecuted Religion in the World | HuffPost The World Post

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

According to CTV, Trudeau will again be our next PM

Preferred PM? Trudeau edges Poilievre in new poll | CTV News

 

Trudeau lost the popular vote two times in a row and now he's up against the most popular Conservative leader in a long time. 

CTV's "polls" are actually just their own opinions. 

[Nexii]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trudeau lost the popular vote two times in a row and now he's up against the most popular Conservative leader in a long time. 

CTV's "polls" are actually just their own opinions. 

The Leger poll is legit - they are the most accurate pollster historically. It's so disingenuous how the MSM spins it though. In Canada we vote for parties not leaders, and the Cons are up 6 points over the Libs. The poll was not looking good for the Libs.

[blackbird]

Something worth examining is the Parliamentary Press Gallery.  It is made up of mainstream media.  These are the media broadcasters who have an inside access to Trudeau and the Liberals.  But others who seriously question Trudeau and his close ally, the NDP, are excluded and not allowed to attend press conferences which only the insiders like CBC, CTV, etc. are allowed to attend.  Does anyone seriously think they can be trusted to give unbiased reporting on Trudeau and the Liberals?   So the question is do certain media get paid off by the Liberals?  The answer is in this arrangement.  If you are part of the Parliamentary Press Gallery, you are given special privileges to attend Trudeau and Liberal media scrums that outsider journalists cannot have access to.  That certainly can be interpreted as a payment or special favour.

"Parliamentary press gallery breaks rules for Russia, BANS Rebel News" 

Parliamentary press gallery breaks rules for Russia, BANS Rebel News - Rebel News 

The problem of a Liberal bias in the media is very real

LILLEY: There's Liberal media bias on the Hill but Akin isn't problem | Toronto Sun

Edited September 21, 2022 by blackbird

[betsy]

On 7/25/2022 at 9:55 AM, Boges said:

My question is. What is your long-game here? Are you satisfied being on the fringe?

I'll give Erin O'Toole credit, he tried to make the CPC more appealing to the masses, then he got kicked out. PP only proves to further that polarization. 

PP has no hope of winning the 905. Those are the seats that tilt any Federal campaign into one column or the other.  

 

Poilievre Conservatives lead Trudeau Liberals 34 to 28 in new poll

https://thepostmillennial.com/poilievre-conservatives-lead-trudeau-liberals-34-to-28-in-new-poll

 

 

I know it's so early in the game and anything can happen.  But - don't say,  Poilievre "has no hope winning the 905."   That sounds more like wishful thinking from you.   Like I said, it's quite early in the game, anything can happen.

[betsy]

Lol - we know there's panic when NDP released an attack ad on Poilievre - what with their very limited budget - so early in the game.   🤣

 

Could they be smelling the..............momentum?

Edited September 21, 2022 by betsy

[Jack9000]

3 hours ago, betsy said:

Lol - we know there's panic when NDP released an attack ad on Poilievre - what with their very limited budget - so early in the game.   🤣

 

Could they be smelling the..............momentum?

goodluck keeping it for  3 years cause thats how long hes gonna sit there lol.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Jack9000 said:

goodluck keeping it for  3 years cause thats how long hes gonna sit there lol.

 

Non-confidence could change that overnight. You rely on ol' Jimmy Jagmeet to hold the whole rotten thing together.

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

What facts do you have to back up your claim that Christianity is no more or no less discriminated against than any other religion?   Obviously just your biased opinion.

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Over the past year, I have written of the intolerance that Christians have shown to Muslims in the U.S. From Missouri to Murphreesboro, Christians have demonstrated both a lack of charity and a denial of the right to religious liberty by setting fire to old mosques and opposing new ones. But Christians in the U.S. are rank amateurs compared to the Muslim persecution of Christians in the Middle East.

In early November, German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that Christianity is "the most persecuted religion in the world." Although met with predictable criticism, Rupert Short's recent research report for Civitas UK confirms Merkel's claim -- we may not want to hear it, but Christianity is in peril, like no other religion. While this is a contest no one wants to win, Short shows that "Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers." Short is the author of the recently published Christianophobia: A Faith Under Attack. He is concerned that "200 million Christians (10 percent of the global total) are socially disadvantaged, harassed or actively oppressed for their beliefs."

Christianity is facing elimination in its Biblical homeland. Between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have departed or been killed over the past century. Short attributes the intolerance and violence towards Christians to the rising Islamicization of Middle Eastern countries. Some of the oppression is government sanctioned and some government permitted; most is government ignored.

Short looks at the plight of Christians in the Middle East, country by country. When it comes to religious oppression, the devil, one might say, is in the details.   unquote   Continued at:

The Most Persecuted Religion in the World | HuffPost The World Post

As I said, the numbers of people in each religion is not proof that there is more discrimination. The point was and is that all religions are discriminated against.

Proof?

Religion, in one form or another, is persecuted in and by one country or group or other religion.

Muslim discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=muslim+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

Jewish discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=jewish+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

Religious discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=religious+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart  

[Jack9000]

24 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Non-confidence could change that overnight. You rely on ol' Jimmy Jagmeet to hold the whole rotten thing together.

I highly doubt hes gonna end it early if pierre is leading in the polls lol.

[DogOnPorch]

58 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

I highly doubt hes gonna end it early if pierre is leading in the polls lol.

 

Doubt away. The Liberal MPs are complaining that too woke Left wing policies are giving the middle ground to Pierre on a silver platter.

[Jack9000]

3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Doubt away. The Liberal MPs are complaining that too woke Left wing policies are giving the middle ground to Pierre on a silver platter.

yea until he campaigns and centrist  see what he is truly like and run away from him

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

As I said, the numbers of people in each religion is not proof that there is more discrimination. The point was and is that all religions are discriminated against.

Proof?

Religion, in one form or another, is persecuted in and by one country or group or other religion.

Muslim discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=muslim+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

Jewish discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=jewish+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

Religious discrimination:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=religious+discrimination+worldwide&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart  

I never said the number of people in each religion proved the number of people being persecuted.  You just made that line up.

The actual numbers of Christians persecuted and killed is what matters, not the number of people following a particular religion.

Last year 5,898 Christians were murdered around the world for their faith.

The countries with the worst record of persecution and murder are shown on the website below.

The countries which conduct extreme persecution are listed as well.

One should understand and take this seriously and not just dismiss it as nothing.  You will stand before God one day and your dismissal of the persecution and murder of God's saints will be noted.

Serving Persecuted Christians Worldwide - World Watch List 2021 - Open Doors UK & Ireland

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

yea until he campaigns and centrist  see what he is truly like and run away from him

 

He just campaigned across Canada and recruited some 600 thousand new Conservative Party members. Unheard of in Canadian history if I'm not mistaken. You are right to be nervous.

[Nefarious Banana]

5 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

goodluck keeping it for  3 years cause thats how long hes gonna sit there lol.

Jagmeet Singh's political career is over . . . . he's dying a slow death politically.  When Justin Trudeau takes a walk into a snowbank like his step-father did, Jagmeet will be heading out the door to a lucrative consultation? job.

The NDP (Liberal -Lite) will fade away. The Green's are more believable than the federal NDP.  Jack Layton would be sad.

[ExFlyer]

32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I never said the number of people in each religion proved the number of people being persecuted.  You just made that line up.

The actual numbers of Christians persecuted and killed is what matters, not the number of people following a particular religion.

Last year 5,898 Christians were murdered around the world for their faith.

The countries with the worst record of persecution and murder are shown on the website below.

The countries which conduct extreme persecution are listed as well.

One should understand and take this seriously and not just dismiss it as nothing.  You will stand before God one day and your dismissal of the persecution and murder of God's saints will be noted.

Serving Persecuted Christians Worldwide - World Watch List 2021 - Open Doors UK & Ireland

Oh stop, you are starting to sound like a whiner. Poor ole me...boo hoo.

[Jack9000]

31 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

He just campaigned across Canada and recruited some 600 thousand new Conservative Party members. Unheard of in Canadian history if I'm not mistaken. You are right to be nervous.

nervous lol? not really if he wins he wins..  as long as he doesn't show his face in my riding its all good 😂

[Jack9000]

30 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Jagmeet Singh's political career is over . . . . he's dying a slow death politically.  When Justin Trudeau takes a walk into a snowbank like his step-father did, Jagmeet will be heading out the door to a lucrative consultation? job.

The NDP (Liberal -Lite) will fade away. The Green's are more believable than the federal NDP.  Jack Layton would be sad.

I wanted Singh gone after the last election anyway so i would be glad if he faded away.. much rather the Ndp be led by someone like meagan leslie, charlie angus  or nathan cullen all 3 would be better options.. as long as they stay clear of nikki ashton  lady  i am happy. how ever as long as the cons  keep PP(skinny trump) or another right winger who plays to the far right as leader  instead of a moderate like they had in otoole  or mckay  my vote will be going to whatever party has the best chance to beat him in the polls/my riding  which is usually the liberals.

Edited September 21, 2022 by Jack9000

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, Jack9000 said:

nervous lol? not really if he wins he wins..  as long as he doesn't show his face in my riding its all good 😂

 

He's a Canadian and is free to go into any part of Canada he pleases. Just like you and I.

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

The Green's are more believable than the federal NDP. 

In the last election the environment was theoretically the biggest issue and the Greens only managed about 3 seats lol. Their leadership team is a clown car and no one takes any of them seriously at all.

The NDP are slightly less of a joke, but they have a devout following - they've managed to brand themselves as 'the champions of the labour unions' although everything that they do is bad for business.

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 Jack Layton would be sad.

I was never a Jack Layton fan until right before his last election. All of a sudden the NDP went from being a joke to being more reasonable than the Conservatives. 

If Jack Layton lived another 4 years I think that he really could have built that party up. Jagmeet Singh has completely reversed that trend. 

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I was never a Jack Layton fan until right before his last election. All of a sudden the NDP went from being a joke to being more reasonable than the Conservatives. 

If Jack Layton lived another 4 years I think that he really could have built that party up. Jagmeet Singh has completely reversed that trend. 

I knew Jack Layton as a younger man back in the 80's

he was acquaintances with my father

Jack Layton was actually a devout Christian

I never supported his pie in the sky policy ideas

bur he meant well, he wanted to do good

unlike the elitist abomination that the NDP has become now

[Jack9000]

4 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

He's a Canadian and is free to go into any part of Canada he pleases. Just like you and I.

yea well i am in a heavy liberal riding so I doubt I be seeing him thankfully

[TreeBeard]

4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

unlike the elitist abomination that the NDP has become now

What policies are different with the NDP now?

[Army Guy]

On 9/19/2022 at 11:51 PM, Jack9000 said:

lol oh please she was posted fake tweets that trudeau never even  said.. if thats the best you can do to attack him that's pretty sad. although coming from her i ain't surprised.  as for you shouldn't you be packed and moved out west yet?

Nope, I am being kept busy trying to find full time jobs for those collecting poggy, hey have you found a job yet.