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Simple math tells us that "amongst the tens of thousands of legitimate health claims which are denied, the resulting lack of medical treatment results in deaths in at least some instances" If that's even just 3 times a year, that makes way more than 3 people who would be extremely angry, to the point where they would be violent. For every person that dies as a result of a denied claim there's at least one dad, brother, father, son, friend, or spouse who ends up being enraged. Maybe the average is 5? Who knows, but at the end of the day, denying legitimate claims = generating violent hatred. So the CEO may not have intentionally murdered people, but if people feel like "he put corporate profits ahead of the life of my _________, and now that person is dead", he bears the brunt of the exact same level of hatred. If this murder is at all related to his job - which might not be the case because people kill other people for a lot of reasons - then it's likely due to the denial of a claim that was believed to be legitimate. That's the only scenario where responsibility falls in the CEO's lap.
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Sort of, but it's not what you think. Calling for violence is justifying the future use of violence, and saying that what happened is ok is 'justifying the past use of violence', which is in turn justifying the future use of violence. Get it? By justifying the murder of this CEO you're justifying the murder of the next CEO. The only way that you were technically correct is that in the second instance you just said "viewing" a violent act as justice, which implies thinking it but not saying it out loud in any way, shape or form.
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Get a load of this... The Dems are all mad at Biden now because Kamala lost. The other day James Carville went off on a rant saying: "If Biden would have said that he wasn't going to run back in 2023 then the Dems could have had a proper primary, and there would be naming commissions deciding what streets, parks, etc to name after him". They're not mad that wars broke out all over the world. They're not mad that ten million plus illegals came across Biden's weak border and it's costing the US tens of billions of dollars. They're not mad that he screwed the economy and Americans spent the last 3 years facing economic hardship. They're mad because the Demis lost power. They literally screwed the country six ways from Sunday for the past 3 years and James Carville is only upset because the Dems lost power. It's almost treasonous when you really think about it. The suffering of American people doesn't matter at all to him, the massive failures of his country mean nothing to him, all the wars and the hate mongering mean nothing to him, the ONLY thing that matters to him is that after all that mismanagement, his buddies didn't get to stay in power. Was he the teleprompter guy? Is that why he's mad? Was he the one pulling Joe's strings, and then he was Kamala's teleprompter guy for the first 80 days of her campaign, and now he's no longer in control? After all, he's the only person that I've ever heard talking about "naming commissions" for worthless Joe Biden - the worst US president ever. No one else thinks Joe did a good job, except for him. Un-effing-believable. What a G-d loser Carville is.
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That Nena song actually encapsulates what Germans lived through in the '80s more than us Canadians. They were all receiving hard-core NBCD training as little children because the threat of war there was so real. Canadians are hugely ignorant to the geopolitical realities that a lot of other countries face. The only places I ever paraded in front of civvies was Digby NS, right before I finished basic, and once in Victoria. They were both warm, receptive crowds. Every time you ever march in the Navy at least one of the songs is this: My favourite: In days of yore, from Britain's shore, Wolfe, the dauntless hero, came And planted firm Britannia's flag On Canada's fair domain. Here may it wave, our boast, our pride And, joined in love together, The thistle, shamrock, rose entwine (Also sung: The lily, thistle, shamrock, rose) The Maple Leaf forever! Chorus The Maple Leaf, our emblem dear, The Maple Leaf forever! God save our King and Heaven bless The Maple Leaf forever! At Queenston Heights and Lundy's Lane, Our brave fathers, side by side, For freedom, homes and loved ones dear, Firmly stood and nobly died; And those dear rights which they maintained, We swear to yield them never! Our watchword evermore shall be "The Maple Leaf forever!" Chorus Our fair Dominion now extends From Cape Race to Nootka Sound; May peace forever be our lot, And plenteous store abound: And may those ties of love be ours Which discord cannot sever, And flourish green o'er freedom's home The Maple Leaf forever! Chorus On merry England's far famed land May kind heaven sweetly smile, God bless old Scotland evermore and Ireland's Em'rald Isle! And swell the song both loud and long Till rocks and forest quiver! God save our King and Heaven bless The Maple Leaf forever! Our commie b1tch PM cries every time that song is played.
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I understand how you feel about those who passed, and they are the ultimate recipients of the honour on that day, but Remembrance Day is for combat/theatre of war veterans too, and especially for silver-cross moms and the families of the fallen and those suffering from physical and mental wounds. I'm sad to say that I have friends who wear parts of their uniforms on Nov 11, and IMO that's wrong, but to each their own. A couple of them have been cops for the last 30 years, I'm not all that butthurt about cops doing that because they've all risked their lives for this country too, but I agree that Remembrance Day is getting somewhat cheapened lately.
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That's a big shout out to Jamil Jivani. The guy just shot from absolute obscurity to being a serious contender for a prominent spot in the net conservative gov't imo. It will be a big deal for the next gov't to have a friend of JD Vance in a lead role. Call it nepotism or whatever you want, I just call it old-skool politicking. It pre-dates Christianity.
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You know that you're describing leftards when you say that, right? Trudeau is the ultimate "I hate old-stock Canadians" guy. When a girl complains that her hijab was slashed, the PM runs out and calls Canadians too racist for our innocent muslim girls to bear. When we find out that it was just a Jussie (hate-monger hoax), the PM runs out and calls Canadians racist again. Our PM pretended that "Canadians" were guilty of letting kids get raped in rez schools. Guess what f-tard... "Canadians" didn't have access to that information. Pierre Trudeau had access to that information, and he re-funded the schools. If there's some culpability to go around, the Trudeau's have way more than their share to accept. But it's not even just that. Trudeau called it a genocide. Our legacy media covered this topic from the pov that: "It basically had to be a genocide, there's no other reasonable explanation". They act like the schools were set up just to destroy children - there's no mention of the fact that they were growing up IN THE STONE AGE, literally, with no hope of ever becoming Drs, lawyers, engineers, etc. They were living in stone age accommodations. They didn't speak English, and the FN people here didn't have common languages. They couldn't communicate with most of the other tribes any more than a Bolivian could. I hate what leftist clowns are making this country into: a divided shithole with DEI stupidity, trans-clownism, and hate-mongering right from the PMO. I wouldn't say that "Canadians are no good." I'd say that pieces of shit like you are no good.
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Daniel Penny Trial
WestCanMan replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Some of the jurors no doubt believe: It's a white guy who killed a black guy, it had to be racism It's a white guy who killed a black guy, lock that whiteboy up! It's a white guy who killed a black guy, there will be riots if we find him innocent Then again, you can see how people would be conflicted: Protecting people is dangerous, let's not discourage heroism Let's not make killing mentally unhealthy people a sport, or legal If people want to threaten other people's lives, they're taking a chance that someone's reaction might be harmful this guy had a long history of making these types of threats, so he should have been incarcerated The letter of the law is just this: did the accused have reason to believe that there was a legitimate risk of serious harm or death to himself or others? did he act within reason to defend himself/other people from harm? Objectively, the above 2 questions are all that matter. Penny has lots of witnesses to the death threats, and that people credibly felt threatened. Restraining the guy was definitely a legitimate reaction. It's all going to come down to how long he had him in the chokehold, especially after the guy stopped offering resistance. It comes down to seconds-after-resistance imo. 3 is ok, 10 is really extreme, 30 is definitely murder. All I would really want to see if I was a juror was the level of threats before the altercation, and how long he was being choked once resistance became very low to none. -
I'm a firm believer in situational ethics. It's just plain common sense. If this was a CEO of a company that makes gummy bears and their price just went up 25% I'd say this was just a senseless killing. BUT, if that CEO is honestly guilty of making deals with people and taking a lot of their hard-earned money in exchange for services that he promises but never had any intention of providing, then he's good and dead as far as I'm concerned. And that doesn't even depend on whether or not anyone even died from his deceit and amorality. Even if a lot of people just suffered serious loss of quality of life or economic hardship because of him, I think those bullets look good on him. Look at this as a teachable moment, MH. People like Thompson and the Sacklers are making bank off of the suffering and deaths of tens of thousands of people while the justice dept is busy chasing Donald Trump for a loan he paid off on time. Fine, but now the people have spoken. If that Thompson guy is guilty of what he's being accused of, I hope that Trump pardons him, and gives him a bigger f'ing gun. That will help the flow of money back into the US medical system, instead of into greedy shareholder pockets, and it will give other unscrupulous CEOs a huge reason to legitimize their businesses. If Thompson guy is not actually guilty of what he's being accused of, then I hope his killer gets the death penalty. But let's just take in a heaping dose of reality here, regarding the possibility of finding out what Thompson was really up to... Biden's advisors are busy right now discussing whether or not Fauci should get a presidential pardon. That's not just from Fox News, it's in USA Today and several others. Regardless of whether Fauci actually gets a pardon or not, the fact that it's even up for debate tells us that this isn't the kind of political climate where accountability is on the way from the justice dept any time soon.
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Unlike you I'm not a f'ing hypocrite, drunk loser. I'm not going to pretend that NATO aggression didn't cause that war. I don't turn my integrity on and off when CBC tells me to. If we start fighting against Russia, I'm on our side, regardless of how wrong we are, drunk loser. I know what losing a war costs, and winning as the bad guys is a far better option. Do you think that all your global-warming, vaxtard, Canada-loathing BS isn't all serving the Russians, islamists and Chinese? FFS, if you're net getting paid as much as Hunter was, you're an id10t.
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How the f could you possibly know that, drunk a-hole? Are you completely unaware how many times our Canadian soldiers and peacekeepers came under fire in the last 25 years? How many Canadian solders died in that time? And FYI, the fighting isn't always the worst part of it, DUI. The best that the Tali and Iraqis, etc, have rarely try our guys on an actual battlefield. The worst part is walking around in places where the bad guys are allowed to walk around with guns, and you know that you could be shot from behind or step on a mine at any given second, while you still have to walk around with your gun on your back, smiling at people. Our guys were in towns and villages in Afghanistan, making it safe for them and helping them build roads and schools and dig wells, etc, and the people would look our soldiers in the eye, pretend to be the best of friends, and then the next day our soldiers would walk right onto a mine that the villagers all knew about, and they'd say nothing. I get it, those villagers fear the Tali more than they could possibly love anything, but you have no idea what the word "deceitful" means until you walk a mile in our peacekeepers' shoes. The CBC's level of deceit is child's-pay by comparison. FYI respecting veterans isn't just for Nov 11th, it's every day, b1tch. I guarantee you'd never say that shit to the face of an actual veteran who was less than 70 yrs old.
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You asked what he does that makes him patriotic...? He stands on the shoulders of Canada's dead 1st and 2nd world war vets, and our dead peacekeepers, to crow about how great Canadians are when it makes him look good, then he denigrates the cisgender white devil-men who did all that fighting when it suits him, then he advocates for violent bigots to come to this country when it makes him look good, then he calls people racists if they mention the fact that those violent bigots we imported are praising terrorist attacks that kill thousands of people. That's what patriotism means to leftists: it's a mad scramble to make yourself look good with the timely denigration of others, facts be damned. Put a leftard man-bun within 20 yards of a blue-haired or visible-minority girl with a pulse and they'll throw a self-loathing party that makes flagellating monks look playful. They'll treat you like a hero on Nov 11th and then backstab you for the next 364 days. That's ok, you never fought for them, you fought for what you believe in, not the pimps, drug-dealers and CBC journalists here.
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The "global warming" topic is extremely complex, and the CBC treats it just like they did covid: any stiff (or Swedish HS dropout) who's regurgitating their propaganda gets beatified and is handed a megaphone, and dissenters are slandered and de-platformed regardless of their education and credentials. Leftists loved Greta's global warming diatribe so much that CNN basically gave her an honorary doctorate in US race relations. The hypocrisy of glo-worms is next level: "I'm in my private jet, going from one of my mansions to the other just for lunch, then I'll be flying to the coast where I'll host a party on my luxury yacht - we'll do a 3-hr cruise and burn 2,000 gallons of fuel. As I fly above the peons, I can't help but notice how many of them are in gas-powered vehicles, killing the planet. #weepingrealtearsfor motherearth."