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The question now is will Carney and the Liberals reverse their grotesque Marxist policies brought in by Trudeau and Guilbeault such as the anti Alberta, anti oil and gas sector, no more pipeline legislation (C69)? Will they reverse their soft-on-crime, catch and release legislation and stop the mayhem in the streets caused by dangerous offenders? Will they reverse their Marxist no more gas vehicles by 2035 legislation? If not there could be a serious threat to the continued existence of Canada as one nation. It's all in Carney's hands now. He should realize many Canadians supported the "stop the carbon tax" movement and oppose the Marxist agenda of the Liberals and the only reason Carney was elected was because of the threats from Trump. Conservatives were 10 to 20% ahead in the polls until Trump began his threats. Is that the only thing supporting Carney now? He better start thinking about the failed Liberal laws and policies.

You epitomize why we don't let holy men run things. I did a search to see what the Bible has to say about murder and justice. There is nothing that I could see that gives any consideration to a murderer's mental condition. In other words I am not aware of any kind of special consideration called NCR. quote Bible verses related to Punishment For Murder from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance Romans 12:19 - Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Leviticus 24:17 - And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 21:12 - He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death. Numbers 35:30-31 - Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die. (Read More...) Matthew 5:21 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: Romans 13:1-14 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Read More...) Matthew 26:52 - Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. John 8:3-11 - And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, (Read More...) Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Genesis 9:5-6 - And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. (Read More...) Numbers 35:31 - Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death. unquote Nothing at all about a not criminally responsible defence. It appears that is purely an invention of liberals in the recent times. Of course judges have always had the discretion of giving sentences based on all the facts at their disposal. But that is not the same as an NCR law that defines how a criminal trial will be conducted and forcing the trial to operate in a certain way depending on alleged mental state of an accused.

First I don't claim to be holy. I am a sinner but I am saved by God's grace and try to avoid sin. God is Holy. You need to read the King James Bible and learn what holy or holiness means. Jesus Christ was Holy because he is God. If more people let Jesus Christ be their Lord and Savior perhaps the world would not be in such a mess, at least in those areas where believers live and have some influence over government. All of the following are examples of what could be called Holy Moments in a person' life. But one must first believe in Jesus Christ. That is the bottom line to all these examples. Prayer must be to God through Jesus Christ. " Examples of Holy Moments: Begin each day with a short prayer of gratitude, thanking God for giving you another day of life. That’s a Holy Moment. Offer the least enjoyable tasks of your day to God as a prayer for someone who is suffering. That’s a Holy Moment. Control your temper, even if you are fully justified in losing it. That’s a Holy Moment. Get honest with yourself about your self-destructive habits. That’s a Holy Moment. Tell God you trust he has a great plan for you and your life. That’s a Holy Moment. There are an infinite number of examples one could find that describe what a holy moment would look like if you wanted to. God is holy because he exemplifies love, mercy, truth, and justice and many other qualities. I admit I am far from holy, but all Christians should be constantly striving to be like Christ in their lives. I admit patience is often a challenge. Many of us struggle with patience. I need more patience I will admit.

You use the concept of holy in a kind of disparaging way which sounds like it came from the Devil. You need to investigate the word holy and learn something about it. The opposite of it would be unholy or evil. Do you support evil? I would rather have men ruling who respected the commands of God and righteousness, rather than opposing things of God or his teachings. The countries that have ungodly or unholy rulers have not ended well. They rule by using evil much like Hitler, Stalin, and Chairman Mao. Those would be examples of what is unholy. Glad you are not running things.

quote 16 (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong. unquote Not Criminally Responsible Due to Mental Disorder - Criminal Law Notebook If the defence claims NCR as a defence, he has a good chance of having his client getting off on NCR. The defence I believe must admit that the accused committed the crime in order for the NCR defence to become a valid claim in court. When the defence makes the NCR claim, the onus is on the prosecution to prove that the accused was not suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong. This puts an extremely difficult burden on the prosecution. It then becomes no longer a question of guilt or innocence, but it places an impossible burden on the prosecution. The question of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or knowing that it was wrong is almost impossible to prove. Justice is destroyed. To prove guilt in such a case almost requires a prosecutor to be able to read the accused person's mind at the time of the offence. Is this justice? No, of course not. In a murder trial where NCR is being used, the justice system is turned completely upside down. It is no longer a normal trial to decide if the accused is guilty of murder. It becomes an abstract kind of debate about opinions of psychiatrists as to the accused person's state of mind when he committed the crime. This is very subjective and depends on who has the most convincing opinion. This is a rejection of the historic principle of being held responsible for committing murder.

I don't think that is correct. A mentally ill person who murdered someone, for example, could still be a threat to society. The problem with the system is mentally ill people who commit murder could wrongly be released into society who are still a danger to other people. In fact I posted some examples earlier to show at least one person who has received day passes with an attendant but who is still considered a serious danger by a committee or board. Releasing such people cannot be based on the opinion of just one doctor who may have poor judgment and is just guessing. No doctor can say with certainty that someone who committed murder is now safe to release. He is not god and is unable to know how mentally ill person's mind works. He simple cannot guarantee what the patient will do. It is better to err on the side of caution and protect society.

It is nonsense to say someone who murdered someone is not a criminal, but is a patient. If you can't see the insanity of that claim, there is not much one can say. Speaking hypothetically, if a person with serious mental issues murdered someone, then they fit the definition of a criminal. Murder is a crime and there is no escaping that fact. Dictionary definition of criminal: crim·i·nal [ˈkrimənl, ˈkrimn(ə)l] noun a person who has committed a crime: So if they killed someone, then they broke the law. That meets the definition of criminal whether or not they are found by the court as being criminally responsible. The legal system, which in the opinion of much of the population is seriously flawed, may say they are not criminally responsible (NCR). The court rulings don't say they are not criminals or that they didn't murder someone. The court is saying that according to the legal system, bought in by the Liberals, the accused person is not guilty by reason of insanity or NCR. The faulty legal system may find in the verdict that they are not guilt of murder, but that doesn't change the definition of what the word murder means. The court declares them not guilty. It doesn't say they didn't commit murder. If someone, who is mentally ill or not, kills someone, that fits the dictionary definition of murder. There are two different subjects on this. There is the court ruling and there is the dictionary definition of murder. You seem to have difficulty in understanding the meaning of the word murder and the finer points of how the legal system works. Also, just because they are declared by the court to be not criminally responsible (for their crime of murder) does not mean the court is saying they are safe to be released into society. They could still be held in a mental institution for the rest of their lives. This is hypothetical because we are not talking about an actual case. I posted several actual cases earlier to show how the system has actually worked.

You must be aware that a man assaulted a woman tourist in Vancouver and tried to kill her a couple weeks ago. He was arrested and released right away even though he attempted to murder the woman. You must also be aware this is because of the Liberal government's laws on bail that enabled the guy to be released on conditions. How is it possible in a civilized country that a guy can attempt to murder a woman and be arrested and immediately released on bail? Yet you think pointing this out is "negativity, rage, wild groundless accusations...etc."?? Canada's legal system is a complete disaster and not protecting society.

I think many undecided voters especially in Quebec and the Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto triangle were scared by Trump into supporting Carney because Carney was a bank executive and they for some unknown reason believed Carney's claim that he is better able to deal with Trump. Personally I don't think it matters who deals with Trump. Trump is Trump and can't be controlled. I remember in the 2015 election, people flocked to Trudeau because of his name, looks, and acting ability as a drama teacher. He was a liberal and a progressive and many Canadians unwisely swallowed all that progressive stuff like legalizing marijuana and sounding like he could make a better world. It was all a charade. The truth is there is no free lunch and everything the government does comes with a very high price tag. That means any kind of government welfare system has a high cost because it requires a huge bureaucracy which Trudeau created. The biggest lie of all was the war on climate change and the carbon tax was going to save the planet. It did nothing for climate change. Carney has a history of being a climate change fighter so don't expect things to change a lot under him. And I don't think he said anything about cutting the bureaucracy or changing the catch and release, soft-on-crime system. More of the same.

Not at all. Who says it's immoral? The word moral or immoral is a relative term and what it means is a matter of individual interpretation. The goal is to protect society. If someone is guilty of a crime, they should be punished. Apparently you don't believe in punishment for crime. You apparently don't believe in protecting society from dangerous offenders who have mental problems either.

Society can not rely on dangerous offenders taking medication. A dangerous offender should be locked up That is the guaranteed way to protect society.

Some people can't just be cured by waving a wand or giving them a prescription. There are many cases of mentally ill murderers who have been designated as dangerous many years after their crimes. What has psychiatry done for them? Not much. Psychiatry is a very subjective or doubtful profession.

Funny how the BC Conservative Party said they support compulsory treatment. So it looks like you are just making things up. The never said anything about punishing them. If they have committed crimes, then perhaps they do need punishment and treatment.

I don't think people are locked up for simply being odd in their speaking. The problem today is society has abandoned the safety of law-abiding citizens and the courts constantly release repeat offenders that should be in jail or in a mental institution. There should be no right to being out on bail or free if one is a serious danger to society. But sadly that is not how the law works now. The statistics are that a few dozen offenders have been arrested and released several thousand times. The system has broken down.

This reminds me, years ago a met a man who receives an injection once a month for mental issues. If he doesn't show up for the injection, the police go and get him and take him to the health unit for the injection. The thing is today I think there are thousands of people with mental issues and there are attacks every day on innocent people. What would you say the solution should be? I would be interested in hearing about a real solution that is going to protect law-abiding citizens, not the so-called rights of dangerous mentally-ill people. I think society has gone too far one way on the freedoms side.