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15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

What they've done with the mandates and shutdowns affected everyone in the family, right down to the kids.

Yes kids have a right to be at a peaceful protest. There was no disruption during the protest that endangered the kids.

If there had been, if anything at all had been out of place you can bet they would have jumped on that and used it to close this down immediately. But they didn't do a thing.

The violence you see now though is a whole different story. This violence was initiated by the police, not the protesters.
 

 I don't care what they are done with, it was the parents responsibility to keep their kids safe. The kids had no say in the matter.

I was not a peaceful protest, it was an occupation that effected the lives of thousands of locals. It this was peaceful the Russians lining 100,000 troops up on the Ukraine border is peaceful simply because they haven't attacked anyone yet.

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2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

You're right that no body has a charter right to break the law.  However, we do have a charter right not to have the government coerce us into having medical procedures just to make others feel safe.   My body, my choice.

Sure. But in order to respect other people's rights, stay home. But your employer and the stores where you shop and the public transportation you use, the the Government of the United State of America have the duty to protect their employees, customers and borders.

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3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the authorities made the choice to try and make them leave

not the parents

that's on the authorities, not the parents

It was the parents choice to bring the kids there. Don't blame others for where you take your kids. You have a very warped idea of parental responsibility.

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7 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Everyone has a legal obligation to follow the instructions of a Peace Office. When the Court declared the occupation illegal, the Police were obliged to remove the participants. The police used reasonable force. If you are told by a peace officer to move and you do not, if you are pushed down by a horse, you asked for it. The participants were given every opportunity to leave peacefully, avoid arrest, and avoid any potention financial sanctions. If they refused, that is their choice. If you shove, spit on or any other form of assault against a police officer, the officer has the right to use the appropriate level of force. 

You forgot to mention one big part in your history. - They enacted the Emergency Act giving them these powers on the spot. Prior to this there was no legal recourse.

And even when they did, it's questionable right now if they had reached the conditions which this Act requires to be enacted.

Evidence? How many more Chiefs of Police must resign before you people start noticing? Maybe something is getting a little frigged up around here.

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3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 I don't care what they are done with, it was the parents responsibility to keep their kids safe. The kids had no say in the matter.

I was not a peaceful protest, it was an occupation that effected the lives of thousands of locals. It this was peaceful the Russians lining 100,000 troops up on the Ukraine border is peaceful simply because they haven't attacked anyone yet.

Easy not to care in your armchair. Comparing it to troops on the border... I saw inflatable bouncy castles, men and women in their 50's sitting around a barbeque.

You saw Russian troops.

To each his own, I guess.

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We need to eradicate the virus because everytime it replicates, the chances of a mutation go up. We need to eradicate the virus before it mutates into a strain even more deadly. Governments are making a serious error by taking off the restrictions. Denmark is a prime example. They recently removed resrtictions and now the virus is spiking. 

An, now, we have a possible new influenza beginning in the American north east. It just gets better and better.

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15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It was the parents choice to bring the kids there. Don't blame others for where you take your kids. You have a very warped idea of parental responsibility.

you have a very warped idea of government responsibility

and wish to blame parents for their mistakes

anything to avoid blaming the government for anything

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21 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

shouldn't of been supporting truckers during a illegal protest in the first place.

That's kind of a stretch in my opinion. Is it that big of a deal that truckers went there to eat? What would have happened if a large number of truckers went into a major retailer for food or supplies like Walmart or Costco? If a trucker filled his truck at a Petro Canada station? 

This reaction by the government is overkill if they're going to confiscate trucks and bank accounts. They would never react this way to Antifa or groups like Extinction Rebellion or BLM.

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8 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

We need to eradicate the virus because everytime it replicates, the chances of a mutation go up. We need to eradicate the virus before it mutates into a strain even more deadly. Governments are making a serious error by taking off the restrictions. Denmark is a prime example. They recently removed resrtictions and now the virus is spiking.

Nonsense. They said the same about communism in the 50's. Look what happened, god damned arm's race took us to the brink.

We need to simply learn to live with the virus. Get with the times. The new normal is no longer to fight, but make friends.

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2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

That's kind of a stretch in my opinion. Is it that big of a deal that truckers went there to eat? What would have happened if a large number of truckers went into a major retailer for food or supplies like Walmart or Costco? If a trucker filled his truck at a Petro Canada station? 

This reaction by the government is overkill if they're going to confiscate trucks and bank accounts. They would never react this way to Antifa or groups like Extinction Rebellion or BLM.

They don't bully big business because big business would ignore them and take them to court. So instead they pick on the little guy.

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2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Bob Rae, Canadian Ambassador wrote on his private twitter account:

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A truck is not a speech. A horn is not a voice. An occupation is not a protest. A blockade is not freedom, it blocks the liberty of all. A demand to overthrow a government is not a dialogue. The expression of hatred is not a difference of opinion. A lie is not the truth.

I have to wonder if Bob Rae would feel the same way if it were a pipeline blockade?

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44 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Everyone has a legal obligation to follow the instructions of a Peace Office. When the Court declared the occupation illegal, the Police were obliged to remove the participants. The police used reasonable force. If you are told by a peace officer to move and you do not, if you are pushed down by a horse, you asked for it. The participants were given every opportunity to leave peacefully, avoid arrest, and avoid any potention financial sanctions. If they refused, that is their choice. If you shove, spit on or any other form of assault against a police officer, the officer has the right to use the appropriate level of force. 

The cops have the right to arrest people breaking the law I agree.   They don't have the right to trample random people on a horse.  That's excessive force.  That person wasn't under arrest and didn't resist arrest.

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1 hour ago, Jack9000 said:

shouldn't of been supporting truckers during a illegal protest in the first place.

What constitutes an illegal protest in your eyes?  Does it include the thousands of people who walked with signs or flags to show their opposition to vaccine mandates?  Are they all criminals in your eyes?   Should their bank accounts be frozen?   Should their donations to a cause they support be revealed publicly against their will so that they can be shamed and humiliated?

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2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

we have CANSOFCOM at the protests with us

 

 

 

I saw those fellows.

The suspected foreigners were the fellows in generic green Canadian military jumpers...each one six foot five or more. People in the crowd couldn't identify the language they were speaking...not that they spoke much. 

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

What constitutes an illegal protest in your eyes?  Does it include the thousands of people who walked with signs or flags to show their opposition to vaccine mandates?  Are they all criminals in your eyes?   Should their bank accounts be frozen?   Should their donations to a cause they support be revealed publicly against their will so that they can be shamed and humiliated?

the emergency act made it illegal  therefore they are at  a illegal event. 

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