Canadians Are Already Over Carney

[Shady]

Conservative majority territory already.

 

[Goddess]

There's 3 other polls that say the opposite, but the Mainstreet polls were the most accurate in the last election.

[Shady]

6 hours ago, Goddess said:

There's 3 other polls that say the opposite, but the Mainstreet polls were the most accurate in the last election.

Exactly.  And now we know why Carney is so keen on poaching MPs.  He knows if the government falls next spring, fall, he’s gone.

[ExFlyer]

The conservatives and liberals, as a party, have always been close.

The issue is not the party though, it is the leaders and Carney is seen as a better leader of Canada than PP by almost double.

Whole some here say Canadians never vote for the leader but party and MP, I believe that is very wrong. Voters carefully look at who is going to lead as opposed to party philosophy. 

[ExFlyer]

Pierre is upset that Carney isn’t the kind of social conservative he wants him to be.

Pierre Poilievre’s newest outburst is accusing Mark Carney of being a copycat. Supposedly Carney is using “his” language without backing it up. It’s so over-the-top I had to check whether it was satire.

Poilievre doesn’t own language, and originality isn’t exactly his strong suit. What he does have is a worn-out, imported grievance routine, and he’s angry it’s no longer landing. Instead of adjusting or actually governing, he’s borrowing the Trump playbook, repeat the claim loudly and hope it becomes true.

The irony is thick. A politician whose entire persona is stitched together from Trump’s tone, Fox News outrage, and Republican buzzwords is calling someone else unoriginal. Canadians already rejected that style of politics, more than once.

Real action shows up in outcomes. Poilievre’s record is falling support, a shaky caucus, and constant finger-pointing. That isn’t leadership. It’s panic.

Carney doesn’t need theatrics. He speaks plainly, understands institutions, and focuses on governing. That’s the real source of Poilievre’s frustration. Not imitation, but competence.

Denying reality, blaming everyone else, and insisting you’re winning while you’re clearly not isn’t strength. It’s desperation.

[TreeBeard]

@Shady is being shady again.  
 

This is what poliwave.com says today:

 

What @Shady did was remove polls he didn’t like and just kept a single poll.  

Edited December 18, 2025 by TreeBeard

[Shady]

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

@Shady is being shady again.  
 

This is what poliwave.com says today:

 

What @Shady did was remove polls he didn’t like and just kept a single poll.  

The margin is shrinking!  

[Shady]

[herbie]

Canadians Are Already Over Carney

oh don't you just wish? Nice try!

[Nationalist]

On 12/18/2025 at 10:57 AM, ExFlyer said:

Pierre is upset that Carney isn’t the kind of social conservative he wants him to be.

Pierre Poilievre’s newest outburst is accusing Mark Carney of being a copycat. Supposedly Carney is using “his” language without backing it up. It’s so over-the-top I had to check whether it was satire.

Poilievre doesn’t own language, and originality isn’t exactly his strong suit. What he does have is a worn-out, imported grievance routine, and he’s angry it’s no longer landing. Instead of adjusting or actually governing, he’s borrowing the Trump playbook, repeat the claim loudly and hope it becomes true.

The irony is thick. A politician whose entire persona is stitched together from Trump’s tone, Fox News outrage, and Republican buzzwords is calling someone else unoriginal. Canadians already rejected that style of politics, more than once.

Real action shows up in outcomes. Poilievre’s record is falling support, a shaky caucus, and constant finger-pointing. That isn’t leadership. It’s panic.

Carney doesn’t need theatrics. He speaks plainly, understands institutions, and focuses on governing. That’s the real source of Poilievre’s frustration. Not imitation, but competence.

Denying reality, blaming everyone else, and insisting you’re winning while you’re clearly not isn’t strength. It’s desperation.

The carney is a blatant thief. If he had an original idea in his head...

It would rattle.

[Shady]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Canadians Are Already Over Carney

oh don't you just wish? Nice try!

His poll numbers are crashing. 😂

[BeaverFever]

41 minutes ago, Shady said:

His poll numbers are crashing. 😂

Actually Mark Carney polls well ahead of the Liberal Party and miles ahead or PP. PP polls behind his own party. 
 

People like Carney a lot more than they like the Liberal party. People like PP a lot LESS than they like the Conservative Party. 

[Shady]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Actually Mark Carney polls well ahead of the Liberal Party and miles ahead or PP. PP polls behind his own party. 
 

People like Carney a lot more than they like the Liberal party. People like PP a lot LESS than they like the Conservative Party. 

Even his personal popularity has dropped significantly.  Regardless, many of the latest polls show at the very least a conservative minority, some a majority.  The conservative vote is much more effective, so even a tie in the polls, or even a slight liberal lead now leads to a conservative government.

[herbie]

Yeah the desperation is showing. Poats this morning about how Carney is responsible for the high price of Christmas turkey (less than half the price of hot dogs) and claiming he's a communist billionaire controlling the world.

They weren't on this forum, but it shows the level of political ignorance out there.

Repeat: Jim Pattison and George Weston just love it when you blame Carney for grocery prices.

[Shady]

If you listened to left wing media, the conservatives are losing control of their party in some kind of doom spiral.  In reality…

 

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

Yeah the desperation is showing. Poats this morning about how Carney is responsible for the high price of Christmas turkey (less than half the price of hot dogs) and claiming he's a communist billionaire controlling the world.

They weren't on this forum, but it shows the level of political ignorance out there.

Repeat: Jim Pattison and George Weston just love it when you blame Carney for grocery prices.

Why would Jim Pattison care about politics?  He is 97 yrs of age now and is worth 11.6 billion dollars.  I believe he was a very generous guy in his life too.

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, Shady said:

If you listened to left wing media, the conservatives are losing control of their party in some kind of doom spiral.  In reality...

Its not that surprising given the turnaround from reporting this time last year that Conservatives had a 30 pt lead and the media was speculating the Liberals might lose official party status.

In reality and as in either case, they're merely sensationalizing things. They have a whole ecosystem of media they need to compete in to survive and make a buck after all.

Anyway it seems to have worked on you.

You need to rinse out your bullshit filters on occassion. When's the last time you replaced the cartridges?

[herbie]

16 hours ago, blackbird said:

Why would Jim Pattison care about politics?  He is 97 yrs of age now and is worth 11.6 billion dollars.  I believe he was a very generous guy in his life too.

OMG what a dumbass response!
Because he's the guy that actually influences grocery costs, he made those billions with his grocery chain!
He was also deeply involved with the Socred govt, put in charge of Expo 86, ANF he hired a former NDP Premier to run a significant part of his operation.
You must have grown up in Timbuktu to ask such questions.

Just keep up the usual populist BS that politicians are the enemy and billionaires are your friends.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

OMG what a dumbass response!
Because he's the guy that actually influences grocery costs, he made those billions with his grocery chain!
He was also deeply involved with the Socred govt, put in charge of Expo 86, ANF he hired a former NDP Premier to run a significant part of his operation.
You must have grown up in Timbuktu to ask such questions.

Just keep up the usual populist BS that politicians are the enemy and billionaires are your friends.

Guess you don't recall or are not old enough to remember Premier W.A.C. Bennet with the Social Credit Party and people like Jim Pattison built B.C. into a thriving prosperous province.  They built great highways and really believed in private enterprise which built everything.  Much different than the mess we have today with the BC NDP and their massive debt and blocking resource development and mills shutting down.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/18/2025 at 9:43 AM, TreeBeard said:

@Shady is being shady again.  
 

This is what poliwave.com says today:

 

What @Shady did was remove polls he didn’t like and just kept a single poll.  

A leftist complaining about dishonest polling 🤣 That's ripe.

FYI your "honest, accurate polling" has always had LPoC up by 5-7% for the last week of the election, always to miraculously change to +1.5% within 2 days of the election, and they're still underselling the CPC every time. 

They had Trudeau up by about 6% on avg for the whole last month, dropped that estimate by 4.5% FOR NO REASON AT ALL on the weekend, then the CPC won the popular vote by about 1.5-2%. 

That puts the polling for the whole last month of the election off, in favour of the Libs, by about 8%, every time. The same thing happens with the Dems every time. A big lead drops to just 1.5% for no reason, then they lose by that much.

Polling in North America is as legit as the story of my spiffy scrotum. 

[herbie]

that has S.F.A. to do with a discussion about blaming the PM for grocery prices.
Unless you insist the owner of western Canada's largest grocery chain has nothing to do with it's pricing. Like really? Mark Carney wakes up in the morning and decides that SaveOn Foods must make 3% more than it did last week.
All explainable on a continent that blamed Obama and Trudeau for their skinned knees and stubbed toes until enough people were dumbed down enough to believe it.

 

[Nefarious Banana]

17 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Guess you don't recall or are not old enough to remember Premier W.A.C. Bennet with the Social Credit Party and people like Jim Pattison built B.C. into a thriving prosperous province.  They built great highways and really believed in private enterprise which built everything.  Much different than the mess we have today with the BC NDP and their massive debt and blocking resource development and mills shutting down.

Jim Pattison has donated huge amounts to Canadian hospitals and health units.

The list is long.  Maybe herbie, eyeball, and the other rabid leftists have had occasion to need some of the largesse of Jim Pattison?

"Bite the hand herbie . . . "  

[Barquentine]

On 12/17/2025 at 10:52 PM, Shady said:

 He knows if the government falls next spring, fall, he’s gone.

Don't count on it, especially if PeePee's still there.

How many more Cons are making a New Year's resolution to join the Liberals? I'm guessing at least 2, maybe 3. (And that's guaranteed if they're stupid enough to keep PeePee as leader!)

[ironstone]

On 12/25/2025 at 3:39 PM, herbie said:

Yeah the desperation is showing. Poats this morning about how Carney is responsible for the high price of Christmas turkey (less than half the price of hot dogs) and claiming he's a communist billionaire controlling the world.

They weren't on this forum, but it shows the level of political ignorance out there.

Repeat: Jim Pattison and George Weston just love it when you blame Carney for grocery prices.

The cost of living in Canada is pretty high and it's not unreasonable to pin at least some of the blame for that on Liberal mismanagement since 2015.

 Carney has been PM for less than a year but prior to that he had been involved with the Liberals in an advisory role for 5 years. Carney himself publicly stated that Canada's economy was weak even before Trump came along.

Increased spending, more debt, more money to serve the interest on the debt. As of the most recent data available (2024/2025), about 21 %–21.5 % of Canada’s total workforce is employed in government-related jobs when counting all levels of government (federal, provincial/territorial, and municipal). This includes traditional “public administration” roles as well as government-funded services such as education and health care. Over 20% of our workforce are government related jobs...pure insanity.

I do think the Liberals are going to keep winning since the majority of their supporters hate Trump and Poilievre more than they love Canada. The actual sad state of our country doesn't seem to be a concern for them.

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

that has S.F.A. to do with a discussion about blaming the PM for grocery prices.

Stop pretending to connect the dots, herbie, because you're not doing that at all. What you're trying to do is pretend that there's no connection between:

• The direction our gov't leads us in, and
• the strength of our economy & the health of our communities

Herbie: what's the point of even having elections if the gov't doesn't affect the strength of our economy and the health of our communities? Of course the federal gov't played the lead role in the downward progress of our country.

Our gov't throttled our energy sector, herbie. Intentionally. Within 3 months of Trudeau taking office he chased away $135B in energy projects, and they are just now trying to get those back in place... And even CBC is admitting that those projects make our country stronger, and less reliant on the US.

Our gov't forced young people to take injections that they didn't need which caused them serious harm, while providing no benefit at all to our country (our country had several times as many infections/hospitalizations and far more deaths in 2022 than either previous year).

Our gov't had several serious scandals, all far more egregious than Duffygate, and all of them received a fraction of Duffygate's coverage.

Our Liberal gov't has made a habit of giving the MSM close to $.5B per election. They did it 4 elections in a row now. 

So tell me, herbie... how did killing our energy sector work out for us? What was the point of that? In what way did it strengthen our country? And if it strengthened our country back then, how is it possibly that reversing course 100% is also good for our country?

We both know that Trudeau sewered us more ways than one. He seriously damaged our economy, he forced our youth into harm, he was constantly scandalous, used the AG office as a personal tool in his scandals, and bribed the media.

We don't even have a democracy now, herbie. That shit is gone. Our gov't is failing and all the MSM  the leader of the opposition. Carney does nothing but tell crazy lies and our MSM pretends to be oblivious while they somehow blame Poilievre.