Canadians Are Already Over Carney

[CdnFox]

On 12/17/2025 at 12:00 PM, Goddess said:

There's 3 other polls that say the opposite, but the Mainstreet polls were the most accurate in the last election.

I don't know that they say the opposite. You may be referring to polls I'm not familiar with but the other polling I've seen certainly says the Carney is in the decline and that the CPC is at the very least at parity. 

Having said that poilievre still has a perception problem which can push far left voters towards Carney a little bit, and he has to overcome that. But very clearly the CPC are extremely competitive at the moment. And the shine is slowly but surely coming off of Carney

Edited December 27, 2025 by CdnFox

[herbie]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

The cost of living in Canada is pretty high and it's not unreasonable to pin at least some of the blame for that on Liberal mismanagement

Oh so you're a Conservative that believes government should control the free market, are you?
Like the 80% of our area that thinks they should vote Conservative so we'll get more grants to save our local businesses? 

Awful lot of Tory supporters with communist beliefs aren't there?

[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

Oh so you're a Conservative that believes government should control the free market, are you?

If the government wasn't already attempting to control the free market costs wouldn't be so high.

[herbie]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If the government wasn't already attempting to control the free market costs wouldn't be so high.

Hahahahahaha

Thx for the laugh of the day. "Quark".

[ironstone]

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh so you're a Conservative that believes government should control the free market, are you?

I favour free markets. Lower taxes. Smaller, more efficient government.  Foreign aid should be cut. No carbon taxes. No EV mandates. Lower immigration from countries and cultures that do not share our values. More oil and gas development. More pipelines. Actual deportations of undesirable people.

Carney and the Liberals are the one's that push for massive government overreach in our society. Carney stands to reap  huge financial rewards because of his policy initiatives.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Hahahahahaha

Thx for the laugh of the day. "Quark".

LOL well in fairness yes i suppose it's something he might have said  

but it's true nonetheless.  Gov't taxation, the 200 billion we blew on 'climate change', industrial carbon taxes, out of control immigration, fertilizer rules and other energy regulation,  it all adds up.  i've done the math for you guys before, it adds huge costs to the price of food (and a large number of other things). 

If gov't gets out of the way and works with the market instead of against it, things get cheaper.  Industry NEVER pays the costs of the taxes etc, the consumer does. 

[herbie]

 

[ironstone]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

 

Where exactly is Mark Carney's 'logic' improving the lives of Canadians?

The name on that channel, Claus Kellerman, links to a website where he's selling merch. Nothing wrong with that. All of his merch is of a 'I choose Canada' theme. But isn't it a bit ironic that he promotes the leader that could honestly say, 'I choose the USA(when it comes to personal investments' ?

Which policies of Poilievre are insane?

(Dawna Friesen's demeanor with each leader was quite a contrast, warm and smiling with Carney, much colder with PP)

[Shady]

The only thing Carney can get built! 😂

Latest seat projections based on current polls.  Conservatives continue to narrow the gap.

 

[CdnFox]

On 1/13/2026 at 2:54 PM, Shady said:

The only thing Carney can get built! 😂

Latest seat projections based on current polls.  Conservatives continue to narrow the gap.

 

Worst news for Carney is that he probably loses ground in a campaign rather than gains it. His track record so far isn't great and a lot of people are mad at him. And during a campaign that gets rubbed in his face.

Have a campaign where to start now he might not even get a minority.

[Shady]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Worst news for Carney is that he probably loses ground in a campaign rather than gains it. His track record so far isn't great and a lot of people are mad at him. And during a campaign that gets rubbed in his face.

Have a campaign where to start now he might not even get a minority.

If he managed to get a minority it would be razor thin, probably a few seats is all.  I wouldn’t be surprised that by April seat projections show a conservative minority.  If there end up being a late spring election called it’ll probably be in majority territory.  
 

it used to be that the conservatives needed to win the popular vote by at least a few percentage points in order to have a chance to form a government because their vote wasn’t as efficient.  But that has changed now.  The conservative vote is much more efficient than the Liberal vote, so even being tied in the polls or slightly behind can be enough to win a minority.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

If he managed to get a minority it would be razor thin, probably a few seats is all.  I wouldn’t be surprised that by April seat projections show a conservative minority.  If there end up being a late spring election called it’ll probably be in majority territory.  
 

it used to be that the conservatives needed to win the popular vote by at least a few percentage points in order to have a chance to form a government because their vote wasn’t as efficient.  But that has changed now.  The conservative vote is much more efficient than the Liberal vote, so even being tied in the polls or slightly behind can be enough to win a minority.

Well as much as I wish you were right the fact is the conservative vote is still inefficient. But it's important to understand that inefficiency, the nature of the inefficiency is such that any gains are happening in areas where they're weak

Which means if you go from 40 to 42, all of those games are specifically in areas where you needed to make gains. For the liberals that's not how it works

So when we're into the 40s every percent means strong increases in regions that the conservatives really need growth in and it moves them closer to taking more seats, where another point for the liberals is so spread out that it really doesn't help them.

I mean the CPC is not going to be getting any more votes out of Alberta than it already has, if there's growth that's not where it happened. It happened in places like toronto.

Spring is probably a little bit optimistic for a CPC majority. But at the end of March the NDP will have a new leader and they are hyper aware of the need to not look like they are the liberals again, and they only have seven seats and they only need five more to be official party status again, so they don't need a lot of money they just need to believe they can win in five more seats than they're already holding to get themselves back in the game

If we see an election in the spring I think that the liberals will be reduced to a razor thin minority and I think a year later another election would happen and they'd be thrown out of power

People do need time to lose their faith in Kearney altogether. Remember that many of them emotionally invested in him thinking he could save them from trump and it takes time to admit that you're wrong.

 

But you can certainly see why the liberals are desperately going to every single party doing anything they can to get a fluorocrosser

 

[BeaverFever]

Meanwhile back in the real world…

 

 

Liberals ascend to 13-point lead in vote intention as Canadians continue to demand hard line on U.S. trade
 

Overall, two-thirds (64%) say Carney has done a good or great job handling the Canada–U.S. relationship so far — nearly identical to the proportion (63%) who approve of his overall performance as prime minister.

That approval appears to be translating into improved electoral prospects for the Liberals. Currently, 45 per cent say they would vote for the LPC in a future federal election, compared to 32 per cent who prefer the Conservative Party. The resulting 13-point lead marks a 10-point increase in the Liberals’ advantage compared to last month’s tracking.

 

https://angusreid.org/liberals-ascend-to-13-point-lead-in-vote-intention-as-canadians-continue-to-demand-hard-line-on-u-s-trade/

 

[John Johnston]

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

[CdnFox]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Meanwhile back in the real world…

 

 

Liberals ascend to 13-point lead in vote intention as Canadians continue to demand hard line on U.S. trade
 

 

Overall, two-thirds (64%) say Carney has done a good or great job handling the Canada–U.S. relationship so far — nearly identical to the proportion (63%) who approve of his overall performance as prime minister.

That approval appears to be translating into improved electoral prospects for the Liberals. Currently, 45 per cent say they would vote for the LPC in a future federal election, compared to 32 per cent who prefer the Conservative Party. The resulting 13-point lead marks a 10-point increase in the Liberals’ advantage compared to last month’s tracking.

 

https://angusreid.org/liberals-ascend-to-13-point-lead-in-vote-intention-as-canadians-continue-to-demand-hard-line-on-u-s-trade/

 

That just sets him up for a hell of a crash when he can't deliver. Davos was played by the media as if he was some sort of hero and achieved something against Donald Trump and he's riding a little bit of a bump from that.

But I know today that trump's people are saying that even kusma goods are going to be tariffed moving forward as part of any new deal.

When carney fails to deliver against trump people's disappointment in him will be a significant backlash.

That's why he's considering a spring election. He's giving away free money, he's doing speeches and flying all over the world, he's doing everything he can to boost his popularity at this moment In the hopes that he can force an election and get a majority because within a year or so people are going to realize he can't deliver and they will turn on him and he wants to avoid having to go to the polls then. 

[Goddess]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

he's doing everything he can to boost his popularity at this moment In the hopes that he can force an election and get a majority because within a year or so people are going to realize he can't deliver and they will turn on him and he wants to avoid having to go to the polls then. 

This is what I predict, too.

In spite of Carney repeatedly telling Canadians that "sacrifices" are going to be required, I don't think it's really sunk in yet.  The sacrifices he's talking about are only right now, being felt by the poor and lower & middle income Canadians.  There's nothing left to bleed out of that part of Canadian society.  The next to "sacrifice" will be upper & top middle income Canadians. And I don't think they realize yet that they are the next targets.  They're still raking in cash from mortgage-free rental homes that they could only get $1200-1500/month for a few years ago and are now getting $3000-5000/month for.  They're still going south for the winter.  To them - everything is great.

But the Liberals didn't commission several studies on how much money they could get by taxing home equity and capital gains, for nothing.  And the continued borrowing, continued over-spending is not going to stop.  That means higher and higher inflation, lower dollar value.  To tax & spend Liberals, that means imposing higher & higher taxes.

In spite of claims to be making efforts at lowering immigration levels, it's not happening.  Not at any level that's going to make a difference.  The gravy train for fake refugees and fake asylum seekers is not going to stop - it brings in nearly 2 million new Liberal voters every year, and those voters are not going to vote against continued freebies for themselves.  Word is out in the world that Canada is an easy mark - lots of freebies, little to no vetting.  Social media is full of these people making videos, laughing at how Canadians are living in the streets while they get free housing, free cars, free food, free money and get favoured for jobs (if they want them).

We continue to borrow tens of billions every year - only to give it all away to other countries in virtue-signaling righteousness "We are the biggest supporter of Ukraine in the world!!  Aren't we great!!"  "We give tens of millions to other countries to support miniscule numbers of trans people in those same countries!!  Aren't we progressive!!"

This is not sustainable.

It hasn't been for a long time.

Half of Canada has woken up to this.  The other half will not wake up until it's too late.  Too easily dazzled by form over function and it makes them feel virtuous to call everyone who doesn't buy the glitter racists, Nazis, bigots, maggots, etc.

Carney needs an election sooner than later.

Edited February 25 by Goddess

[Goddess]

And it irritates me that the Liberal propaganda media keeps parading a Syrian (?) chocolate company "Peace By Chocolate" in front of us as an example of how immigrants are so successful, without mentioning that they also received over $400,000 in taxpayer money to stay viable.  And that they will likely continue to receive taxpayer monies as long as they need to keep being paraded in front of us as a homegrown success.

[Goddess]

Geopolitically, it's interesting that this new $2 billion gift to Ukraine comes as the Zaporizhzhia nuclear facilities are being threatened, even more than they were since Russia claimed them in 2022.  

Just before she officially quit in December (but AFTER she knew she was going to be economic advisor to Ukraine), Freeland arranged for another $2.5 billion gift to Ukraine.

So Carney has his good friend over there now, looking after his investment, made with Canadian tax dollars.

The reactors are being claimed by Russia, since it's them who contributed the 6 reactor units, although it had been run by Ukrainian electricity and Ukraine benefitted from it.

Russians want to start it up again in 2027 but want guarantees that it will not be blown up by Ukraine.  this is one of the sticking points of the peace talks.

Carney's Brookfield/Westinghouse portfolio (the "blind" trust isn't blind to Carney) is heavily invested in the plants in Ukraine - they own controlling shares of 51%, with Cameco owning 49%.  They lose that entire investment, and Carney loses almost $1 billion in deferred stock if the Russians get the plant.

It's in his best interests, not Canada's, to keep the war going.

So far, nearly 1/3 of our national debt is money we borrowed to give to Ukraine.

[LinkSoul60]

48 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Half of Canada has woken up to this.  The other half will not wake up until it's too late. 

You should have stayed in school....half is 50%.  He's well outpacing that with a 65% approval rating.

53 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Carney needs an election sooner than later.

Not much of an appetite for another election but I'm sure a lot of people would welcome it.  No doubt we'd see a Liberal majority then shortly thereafter moving vans backing into Stornoway to pack Poilievre's belongings for a quick exit out of town and politics. That's a good thing for the CPC and Canadian's.  

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You should have stayed in school....half is 50%.  He's well outpacing that with a 65% approval rating.

I was referring to the election results.

 

6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No doubt we'd see a Liberal majority then

No doubt.

[eyeball]

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No doubt.

I'll still be voting for another minority. I'm on a roll so no point changing course. Voting Conservative around here would only result in a Liberal winning...it's almost like my hands are tied really.

Edited February 25 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I'll still be voting for another minority. I'm on a roll so no point changing course. Voting Conservative around here would only result in a Liberal winning...it's almost like my hands are tied really.

You'll be voting for the liberals as you always do. That's who you support

You're not here everyday standing up for the NDP

Edited February 25 by CdnFox

[Army Guy]

 

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

 

Not much of an appetite for another election but I'm sure a lot of people would welcome it.  No doubt we'd see a Liberal majority then shortly thereafter moving vans backing into Stornoway to pack Poilievre's belongings for a quick exit out of town and politics. That's a good thing for the CPC and Canadian's.  

I hear rumors Carney is looking for a majority...And election would be his best bet, unless his support drops out...things are not look so good in the polls lately...But i don't see a Carney majority speeding up liberals pace to solve problems...

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

 

I hear rumors Carney is looking for a majority...And election would be his best bet, unless his support drops out...things are not look so good in the polls lately...But i don't see a Carney majority speeding up liberals pace to solve problems...

If anything if he gets a majority it'll slow down

Very obviously he wants to try and force an election but he is aware that there is a history in Canada a parties who call unnecessary elections being severely punished and voters turning on them

Nobody knows more than he does that the fortunes of a party can turn around overnight with the right impetus.

So he's being cautious, obviously he has what he feels as a plan that would work and we'll see if he can make it happen. But he'll back away if it looks like he'll be blamed for calling the election

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

 

I hear rumors Carney is looking for a majority...And election would be his best bet, unless his support drops out...things are not look so good in the polls lately...But i don't see a Carney majority speeding up liberals pace to solve problems...

That's the chatter but I still think they'll be another conservative or two coming across the aisle. Combine that with upcoming by-elections that should be liberal and maybe not a need for another election.  Either way, it appears he's going to be the guy for the foreseeable future so best get used to it.