LinkSoul60 Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 27 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes lots of Chinese stuff on the market...your point is what ? I can tell you why it is struggling, North America can not compete with Chinese wages or standards...And if that's all your worried about is cheap stuff, and saving a few bucks....we could apply that reasoning to all Canadian manufacturing...Steel , aluminum everything can be built or produced much more cheaply...It is all about Canadian jobs ....or is it....on one hand it is OK for Canadians to get access to cheap Chinese stuff, but when it comes to government equipment it must provide Canadian jobs, and act as trough for Canadian industry... Chinese wages and standard of living is less than our NA standards.... you don't say. No sh*t Sherlock.... Yes it is about Canadian jobs. Whether it's Canada or the US we're not going to start producing every widget for our own consumption so let China do it. We'll produce what we're capable of that makes economic sense for those businesses that are invested in the given sector. 31 minutes ago, Army Guy said: US has told us to pick a side, or face consequences....we are walking a very fine line....That second largest economy only represent 3 % of our GDP.....SO ya we could replace that in a few years.... No, the US hasn't said 'pick a side'. Have you conveniently forgot that immediately after the announcement Trump said "Good for Canada. If they can get a deal with China they should' or that China is the US's third largest trading partner and going there in the next while for more trade agreements? End of the day....f*ck Trump and his idea threats of what we should or shouldn't be doing. 36 minutes ago, Army Guy said: There is going to be consequences for no deal...and there won't be a deal unless Canada makes the first concessions...but as it stands right now that is not going to happen....i wonder how common sense and very obvious taste..... I don't have any carney schtick...he has not done anything to disprove any of it...I've already said i do like a lot of carneys promises...but so far talk is cheap...he has delivered what exactly....I've asked the question to dozens get the same answer every time, nothing but crickets... Again, you come across bigly as chicken little. Let people that know how to negotiate do that and agree to a deal when it;s the right deal for both countries. 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: You'v never had a valid point. What's with all the emoji faces? I always have a valid point. Anybody who thinks differently can make a counterpoint or show where the errors in my logic and you've never been able to achieve that. And the Emojis are me laughing at you, it's a reflex, I actually do it when I'm actually chuckling. Watching you squirm is hilarious Quote What happens in the real world escapes you doesn't it. Million-dollar expense accounts....where and in whose world? I don't think David Solomon or Bruce Flatt would agree with you on either the Carney or expense account comments. Ummm..... Carney spent over $772K on in-flight catering and hotels last year | National Post And he wasn't even here a year. Trudeau was famous for spending well over a million a year on airline food alone. Have you thought about looking this stuff up before saying anything so you don't look so uninformed? Quote I have no idea what you tried to say there but you're noticeably under-qualified to be using the words 'think or thinking'. ROFLMAO!!! You can't understand a simple paragraph in plain english or the concept that carney is better off winning an election now, and you think I'M the one with a thinking problem? LOLOLOL Ok kid, seeing as you're having trouble with adult english i'll try to dumb it down for you. I was responding to a post that suggested that the outcome of the cusma negotiations may very well affect carney's political future. this is because a failure there would reflect badly on him. (with me so far? good lad!) I pointed out that this is NOT accurate IF... IF he goes to an election now and potentially secures a majority. (a majority is where he has more than 50 percent of the seats. I'll explain percentages to you if necessary later) If he goes to an election now and secures a majority, the cusma negotiations won't make a difference to him politically because nobody can force an election, AND the general public will have forgotten about it 4-5 years from now when the next election is held. (a majority gov't can't be forced to go to an election you see). So this is what's driving the liberal thinking right now, if they can find a way to go to an election now while they're very popular then they might be better off than risking being forced to an election later when they're not popular. And even IF they come back with a minority, the opposition will be reluctant to force an election again within a year so cusma will be over and they'll have time to try something else to look good. DId you get all that? I can order some crayons if you need it explained more simply than that 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 18 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You're rather naive to believe that nothing is on the table right now. My guess is that table is absolutely full of talking points. Brilliant thought thinking that the US has the upper hand... Think it might have to do with an economy that is 10+ times larger than ours? You wouldn't be a good negotiator at all. Your chicken little instincts would be a dead give-away and not end up well for you. It's called negotiations and it will get done when it's right for both countries....not just one. You don't get it do you... It's not about winning a 'huge trade war', it's about securing a win/win deal for both countries. Why can't you understand that? I said it yesterday... I'm in that 70% of Canadian's who have no problem at all with the status of these negotiations and have no problem whatsoever with Carney pushing the envelope until he secures the best deal we can get. It's called negotiating.... Naive , maybe...but what both government's have given us to look at, i'd say talks are stalled, the US is not interested in anything because Canada refuses to talk about the golden geese.. It is not my thinking it is based on facts, US economy is almost 15 times larger than Canada.... Maybe your right i did most of my Negotiations via gun point while in Afghanistan, I seemed to fair out pretty well considering I'm here positing to you... I get it and so does the US government, they know they have a much larger waiting time than Canada has, they can apply what ever force they need to get to want they want....It is you that does not seem to understand Trumps personality.... Nothing matters to him except the win....He does not care about what happens to anyone except in the US...he is doing this for the US people and he does not care what Canadians think about him...that's why we are going to fail...because Canadians think they have all the cards...and we can live through this with out giving up all the golden geese.... What 70 % of what Canadians think is a moot point, like i said a large portion of those voted for the left and justins liberals how much credibility do they really have...Nor does it make them right.., Carney can push what ever he wants, Trump is not going to cave....and he has many more cards to play Cusma being one of them....US might throw in some compromises to save some face for carney....but over all Canada will get bent over and it will be sold as a good deal for Canada mark my words... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 17 hours ago, Moonbox said: No, tomorrow we will not be in a different spot. Two Trump presidencies in the last 10 years have underlined how unreliable the USA is as a partner. Trump is unreasonable and impossible to negotiate with in good faith, but he still needed +40% of the population to enable him. The collapse of American credibility under Trump is what's leading the world (not just Canada) towards countries like China. Nobody is naive enough to think China is a benevolent partner, but at least it's predictable and doesn't set policy based on the fickle temperament of the world's biggest man-baby. Uncertainty is the bane of business investment. Past history of US presidency say other wise....2 are a bump on the road....I guess your just throwing out all that other history because of one jack ass, lets paint them all with the same brush....sorry don't buy it...Canada will be here for many years to come, as divided as ever but still here... Canada is the last country that should be talking about credibility....inter nationally we have very little...China has demonstrated over and over it is a threat to NATO, and Canada national security, and some how we have closed our eyes to that and decided to do business as usual, because most Canadians fear the Trump... Trump is doing what is in the best interest of his country, Canada and the world is collateral damage.... This problem has existed for decades....centuries....and we failed to take any action on it....one guy comes to power and poof we are running for the hills...with our hair on fire....Canada has let this relationship slide....we are responsible for all of it...and now we are paying for it... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Naive , maybe...but what both government's have given us to look at, i'd say talks are stalled, the US is not interested in anything because Canada refuses to talk about the golden geese.. It is not my thinking it is based on facts, US economy is almost 15 times larger than Canada.... Maybe your right i did most of my Negotiations via gun point while in Afghanistan, I seemed to fair out pretty well considering I'm here positing to you... I get it and so does the US government, they know they have a much larger waiting time than Canada has, they can apply what ever force they need to get to want they want....It is you that does not seem to understand Trumps personality.... Nothing matters to him except the win....He does not care about what happens to anyone except in the US...he is doing this for the US people and he does not care what Canadians think about him...that's why we are going to fail...because Canadians think they have all the cards...and we can live through this with out giving up all the golden geese.... What 70 % of what Canadians think is a moot point, like i said a large portion of those voted for the left and justins liberals how much credibility do they really have...Nor does it make them right.., Carney can push what ever he wants, Trump is not going to cave....and he has many more cards to play Cusma being one of them....US might throw in some compromises to save some face for carney....but over all Canada will get bent over and it will be sold as a good deal for Canada mark my words... And again.... who cares if talks are stalled if we're not getting what they think should be on the table. Trump's getting more heat today with economic news around impact of tariffs which only helps us in trade talks. You're right though about him caring only for the US, which he should. Problem there though is that tariffs are a tax on US citizens. I agree it will eventually be communicated as good deal because he won't sign it unless it is. Maybe now that Poilievre has learned how to call Trump by name he can lend his great insight to help Carney navigate this? 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Past history of US presidency say other wise....2 are a bump on the road....I guess your just throwing out all that other history because of one jack ass, lets paint them all with the same brush....sorry don't buy it. What is this even supposed to mean? What does past history say? What are we throwing out? Be specific, because I don't even know what I'm supposed to be responding to here, and I'm not trolling. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Chinese wages and standard of living is less than our NA standards.... you don't say. No sh*t Sherlock.... Yes it is about Canadian jobs. Whether it's Canada or the US we're not going to start producing every widget for our own consumption so let China do it. We'll produce what we're capable of that makes economic sense for those businesses that are invested in the given sector. No, the US hasn't said 'pick a side'. Have you conveniently forgot that immediately after the announcement Trump said "Good for Canada. If they can get a deal with China they should' or that China is the US's third largest trading partner and going there in the next while for more trade agreements? End of the day....f*ck Trump and his idea threats of what we should or shouldn't be doing. Again, you come across bigly as chicken little. Let people that know how to negotiate do that and agree to a deal when it;s the right deal for both countries. No according to you it is about buying cheap sh!t, that's what Canadians want...and if why used your logic we should just get out of the way and let China provide us with everything....China is nice, China is our friend, China is not the trump...One of the benefits of tariffs is just that you bring manufacturing jobs back...if Chinese stuff is to expensive Canadians will look for other products...I guess you forgot that point...Trump has been preaching it since he was elected... Your in denial, US has told us several times to pick a side, one example is trade with China, there are many other examples where the US has told us that our actions threaten their policies...Trump says a lot of things, you also forgot that he said he will punish Canada for trade with China...lets pick a lane and stay in it. This is about Canada not the US....more about do as a say, not as i do... At the end of the day, we do 80% plus of our trade with the US, you can say F#### the US all you want, but in the end, we will tow the line or face consequences.... I really don't care what you think of me or my opinions, The reality of the situation is we are dealing with a bully, while we are only 90 lbs weakling....you seem to think we are 210 lbs and know kung fu...and we have some really good cards to play....Tell the readers what massive cards do we have that will bring the US to their knees.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, Moonbox said: What is this even supposed to mean? What does past history say? What are we throwing out? Be specific, because I don't even know what I'm supposed to be responding to here, and I'm not trolling. It means during all of our history US /Canada relations have been superior...we have gotten along....in all matters....and one guy comes along and Canadians are freaking out like it is the end of the world, even suggesting we throw out all of that was built between our two nations.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Army Guy said: It means during all of our history US /Canada relations have been superior...we have gotten along....in all matters....and one guy comes along and Canadians are freaking out like it is the end of the world, even suggesting we throw out all of that was built between our two nations.... Nobody is freaking out like it's the end of the world. Nobody is suggesting we throw out all that we've built between our two nations. That's the goofy partisan projection of Pierre and the CPC being repeated, and little else. Canadians are just addressing the reality set before us. What we previous understood to be a mutually beneficial, symbiotic relationship has been exposed as a naive dependency on a more powerful partner that can and will use that relationship as leverage to coerce and bully us. It would be foolish and irresponsible not to be taking steps to reduce that dependency. Trump isn't as much of an anomaly as people seem to think. He's just the current-day culmination of +30 years of stupidification in American politics, and once he's gone there will be another demagogue ready and waiting to make noises that the Tea Party/MAGA apes want to hear. The scariest thought is that the next one might not be a ridiculous, obese orange buffoon. Edited February 27 by Moonbox 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: Nobody is freaking out like it's the end of the world. Nobody is suggesting we throw out all that we've built between our two nations. That's the goofy partisan projection of Pierre and the CPC being repeated, and little else. You lefties have to pick a lane. First you claim that Poilievre is absolutely enamored with trump and what sell us out to trump have become the 51st state tomorrow, then your argument is that poilievre actually wants to sever all ties completely with the united states and throw everything we've built and wants nothing to do with the US. Convenient how your arguments seem to flip depending on whether or not you need poilievre to be pro-american or anti-American in order for him to be the villain 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Moonbox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: your argument is that poilievre actually wants to sever all ties completely with the united states and throw everything we've built and wants nothing to do with the US. Nope, you entirely misunderstood my point. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: No according to you it is about buying cheap sh!t, that's what Canadians want...and if why used your logic we should just get out of the way and let China provide us with everything....China is nice, China is our friend, China is not the trump...One of the benefits of tariffs is just that you bring manufacturing jobs back...if Chinese stuff is to expensive Canadians will look for other products...I guess you forgot that point...Trump has been preaching it since he was elected... Your in denial, US has told us several times to pick a side, one example is trade with China, there are many other examples where the US has told us that our actions threaten their policies...Trump says a lot of things, you also forgot that he said he will punish Canada for trade with China...lets pick a lane and stay in it. This is about Canada not the US....more about do as a say, not as i do... At the end of the day, we do 80% plus of our trade with the US, you can say F#### the US all you want, but in the end, we will tow the line or face consequences.... I really don't care what you think of me or my opinions, The reality of the situation is we are dealing with a bully, while we are only 90 lbs weakling....you seem to think we are 210 lbs and know kung fu...and we have some really good cards to play....Tell the readers what massive cards do we have that will bring the US to their knees.... Half your house or personal possessions is from China. You want a pipeline to sell more oil to China, but for whatever the reason you and fellow crying lot think we shouldn't buy Chinese cars, despite the fact we're buying them today under the names of Volvo, Polestar and Buick. In denial about what? Trump said making the deal with China was good didn't he, but the his little minions had a problem with it because t takes away their leverage. End of the day we look after ourselves and don't need to listen to what Trump 'tells us to do'. I understand you think we should but like I said before, you appear to be the type that turtles easily. Nobody has said, suggested or even considered not trading with the US. Tow the line...lol, be serious.... 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 8 hours ago, Moonbox said: Nope, you entirely misunderstood my point. I did not. Again you're going to have to pick a lane there. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 On 2/27/2026 at 12:45 PM, LinkSoul60 said: And again.... who cares if talks are stalled if we're not getting what they think should be on the table. Trump's getting more heat today with economic news around impact of tariffs which only helps us in trade talks. You're right though about him caring only for the US, which he should. Problem there though is that tariffs are a tax on US citizens. I agree it will eventually be communicated as good deal because he won't sign it unless it is. Maybe now that Poilievre has learned how to call Trump by name he can lend his great insight to help Carney navigate this? Those industries that have the tariffs on they care...Trump does not care what heat he takes, or what news is going on with tariffs....all of which have made zero difference to date. You also forget that Americans like Canadians like cheap stuff, and if the product cost to much they will buy something else...which means Canadian manufactures sales go down, which means loss of business and money...It is not just a one sided street.... we will see in the future just how good Carneys inaction is....and if we get a good deal ....which i doubt...or wqe would already have it... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 On 2/27/2026 at 5:19 PM, LinkSoul60 said: Half your house or personal possessions is from China. You want a pipeline to sell more oil to China, but for whatever the reason you and fellow crying lot think we shouldn't buy Chinese cars, despite the fact we're buying them today under the names of Volvo, Polestar and Buick. In denial about what? Trump said making the deal with China was good didn't he, but the his little minions had a problem with it because t takes away their leverage. End of the day we look after ourselves and don't need to listen to what Trump 'tells us to do'. I understand you think we should but like I said before, you appear to be the type that turtles easily. Nobody has said, suggested or even considered not trading with the US. Tow the line...lol, be serious.... Nobody mentioned Pipelines for China, there is more than one nation included in the Asian market...Do you really think China would tariff our oil....i mean come on...Anything China can make so can any other Asian country with the right investments...and most of the other Asian countries are not threats to our national security...once again tariff the sh!t out of all products coming in from China... Every thing...Yes trump did say that then the following days he said something totally different, he has changed his mind...but you already knew that...Yes we look after ourselves...which is why our country is such a train wreak...Sure we are a sovereign country we make our own rules...which is why we are now spending 2 % of national defense, and will be spending 5 % in the coming years, which is why we are beefing up our artic defenses, which is why we are taking part in the golden dome, which is why we strengthened our borders with 1000 new RCMP officers and 1000 CBSA officers, the list goes on and on...we never listen to trump.... That's is not the liberal line, Carney has made it very clear what he intends to do, reduce dependency on everything from the US...reconsidering all our US purchased military equipment, not buying US equipment and pushing into the European markets instead...what would that suggest to you... In the end , we will tow the line as we always have, you don't have to like it but when carney says heave you should start pulling... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You also forget that Americans like Canadians like cheap stuff, and if the product cost to much they will buy something else...which means Canadian manufactures sales go down, which means loss of business and money...It is not just a one sided street.... It's very much a one-way even dead-end street given Trump has put tariffs on the whole planet. Where the fùck do Americans go to buy cheap shit now, Mars or something? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: Nobody mentioned Pipelines for China, there is more than one nation included in the Asian market...Do you really think China would tariff our oil....i mean come on...Anything China can make so can any other Asian country with the right investments...and most of the other Asian countries are not threats to our national security...once again tariff the sh!t out of all products coming in from China... Every thing...Yes trump did say that then the following days he said something totally different, he has changed his mind...but you already knew that...Yes we look after ourselves...which is why our country is such a train wreak...Sure we are a sovereign country we make our own rules...which is why we are now spending 2 % of national defense, and will be spending 5 % in the coming years, which is why we are beefing up our artic defenses, which is why we are taking part in the golden dome, which is why we strengthened our borders with 1000 new RCMP officers and 1000 CBSA officers, the list goes on and on...we never listen to trump.... That's is not the liberal line, Carney has made it very clear what he intends to do, reduce dependency on everything from the US...reconsidering all our US purchased military equipment, not buying US equipment and pushing into the European markets instead...what would that suggest to you... In the end , we will tow the line as we always have, you don't have to like it but when carney says heave you should start pulling... I see you're not a Carney fan... anyway, we've been trading with China and they've been investing here for decades and you think we need to stop that now....why? Doesn't matter whether it's China or India we have to be trading with them and the 3B people they have. Not sure the high and mighty thing works in the world these days. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I see you're not a Carney fan... anyway, we've been trading with China and they've been investing here for decades and you think we need to stop that now....why? Have you not heard about the RCMP reports about how their influencing our politics? Interference and threats towards our MPS? And perhaps you didn't notice but they have no problem using our trade as a political tool with them, slapping Tariffs on our canola and Seafood until they get what they want, and then only taking a portion of the tariffs off. We have to be very cautious with how we deal with them. It's not that we can't deal with them but they are far worse than the US when it comes to being unreliable trade partners and that has only grown stronger under the liberals. Harper used to keep them in hand but he's not around anymore and Justin simply couldn't. There's a reason they called him little potato. Carney has been in their pocket before he even was elected 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: Have you not heard about the RCMP reports about how their influencing our politics? Interference and threats towards our MPS? And perhaps you didn't notice but they have no problem using our trade as a political tool with them, slapping Tariffs on our canola and Seafood until they get what they want, and then only taking a portion of the tariffs off. We have to be very cautious with how we deal with them. It's not that we can't deal with them but they are far worse than the US when it comes to being unreliable trade partners and that has only grown stronger under the liberals. Harper used to keep them in hand but he's not around anymore and Justin simply couldn't. There's a reason they called him little potato. Carney has been in their pocket before he even was elected So, Harper knew how to handle them while anyone else is out of their league. Sure 'kiddo'.... You conveniently forget what Carney has said about the world and trading relationships we'll embark on..... If this was a conservative government doing the exact same thing with China you'd be doing cartwheels thinking it's the best trade ever negotiated. You're an embarrassment to clowns everywhere... Quote
CdnFox Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: So, Harper knew how to handle them while anyone else is out of their league. Sure 'kiddo'.... It's easy to spot when you realize you've lost the argument. You start creating fake arguments that nobody ever said and try and argue with those 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I accept your surrender Harper was quite good at it. It really wasn't the same issue much before that, we didn't have quite the same attempts at interference that we've seen in the 21st century. There's no doubt they were active but it was nothing like we see today. 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You conveniently forget what Carney has said about the world and trading relationships we'll embark on. I have forgotten nothing. What element of it do you think I forgot? However it is worth noting that carney frequently says one thing and does something completely different. Carney has had a long relationship with china. Well he was there representing the Canadian government under Justin Trudeau he negotiated a multi-billion dollar loan that was used by Brooksfield to give elon musk the money necessary to buy twitter. He's had many other dealings with them as well. So nothing I said changes. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: It's easy to spot when you realize you've lost the argument. You start creating fake arguments that nobody ever said and try and argue with those 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I accept your surrender Harper was quite good at it. It really wasn't the same issue much before that, we didn't have quite the same attempts at interference that we've seen in the 21st century. There's no doubt they were active but it was nothing like we see today. I have forgotten nothing. What element of it do you think I forgot? However it is worth noting that carney frequently says one thing and does something completely different. Carney has had a long relationship with china. Well he was there representing the Canadian government under Justin Trudeau he negotiated a multi-billion dollar loan that was used by Brooksfield to give elon musk the money necessary to buy twitter. He's had many other dealings with them as well. So nothing I said changes. You conspiracy id*ots always bring up Brookfield, but don't forget about his 13 years with Goldman Sachs. There may not be an equity out there he won't profit from.... If only he was a just a simple landlord like Poiiievre and his wife with a few ETF's things wouldn't be so difficult for you cry hard conservatives. Good to see the deal with China and looking for more to come. Add in an inevitable free trade agreement and further investments by companies in India and things are looking up.... communist and murderous regimes alike. Quote
Army Guy Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 20 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I see you're not a Carney fan... anyway, we've been trading with China and they've been investing here for decades and you think we need to stop that now....why? Doesn't matter whether it's China or India we have to be trading with them and the 3B people they have. Not sure the high and mighty thing works in the world these days. Not really a fan of most liberals or their policies...he holds the keys to getting things done, and just does not want to take any action.... Our trading with China represents only 3.9 % of our total GDP, something that small would be easy to replace....While liberals are pushing us away from our largest trading partner with over 85 % of our GDP....which trading partner do you think should be given better treatment ?....and we have been trading with the US for centuries.... And if we have lowered our standards, and we now deal with anyone, why make any fuss about the US and their policies...why not throw the entire towel in and increase our trade with the US, cut the BS of seeking trade from dubious partners that have killed Canadians on Canadian soil, or one that operates police station in Canada, and threatens Chinese Canadians on Canadian soil....i get it something we can look away from might be worth doing just that....But when CSIS tells you these countries pose a grave threat to our national security then we announce we want to do more business with them...Sorry...you can not square that hole... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 17 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Not really a fan of most liberals or their policies...he holds the keys to getting things done, and just does not want to take any action.... Our trading with China represents only 3.9 % of our total GDP, something that small would be easy to replace....While liberals are pushing us away from our largest trading partner with over 85 % of our GDP....which trading partner do you think should be given better treatment ?....and we have been trading with the US for centuries.... And if we have lowered our standards, and we now deal with anyone, why make any fuss about the US and their policies...why not throw the entire towel in and increase our trade with the US, cut the BS of seeking trade from dubious partners that have killed Canadians on Canadian soil, or one that operates police station in Canada, and threatens Chinese Canadians on Canadian soil....i get it something we can look away from might be worth doing just that....But when CSIS tells you these countries pose a grave threat to our national security then we announce we want to do more business with them...Sorry...you can not square that hole... Not following.... he should be trying to make things happen given he's only in this for the money. Looks to be a bit of a longer game. Lose the China thing... your anti-liberal bias clouds your judgement. They're consistently our second largest trading partner... with 118B last year. We export ~30B.... and I'd have to think the people/jobs that depend and benefit from that trade would be a little pissed if we tried the holier than thou thing again. What are you even talking about.... lowered our standards and increase our trade with the US. Have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past year. I'm also safely assuming you were singing loud and proud with the other cry hards when Trudeau slapped the 100% EV tariffs on them and they said f*ck you to canola....weren't you. Are you going to say the same thing about India trade, or good with that? Quote
CdnFox Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You conspiracy id*ots always bring up Brookfield, but don't forget about his 13 years with Goldman Sachs. It wasn't with Goldman Sachs when he borrowed the money from china, he was with Brooksfield and he was serving the Canadian government at the same time. And that's not actually a conspiracy theory that's a documented fact, you can find it out just as easily with a couple of Google searches. It's not like he broke the law, which is quickly becoming the calling card for him whenever he does something extremely slimy and questionable. You just don't like the fact so you use the term conspiracy theory to try and dismiss it without actually presenting a logical argument 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Good to see the deal with China and looking for more to come. It's the ones you can't see that you should be worried about I hear the RCMP and ceases have suggested that he throw away a number of the gifts he received because they are likely to be bugged China gifted Carney an 'action camera'. Security experts say 'dump it' | National Post And once again, you can't make a logical argument, so all you can do is personal attacks, strawmen, and cheesy expressions. Well at least there weren't any homosexual fantasies this time, Do better kid Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 22 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It wasn't with Goldman Sachs when he borrowed the money from china, he was with Brooksfield and he was serving the Canadian government at the same time. What does that timing have to do with anything? Do you really think he's only going to benefit Brookfield companies and not those he met and has invested in from the GS days... You cry hards need to try harder with this one. Quote
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