'Merica officially becomes Venezuela: Maralogo raided by Biden's goon squad

[Aristides]

I thought his big attraction was that he wasn't supposed to be a politician.

Actually his lies do matter a lot. They just aren't important to you because he isn't lying about you.

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I thought his big attraction was that he wasn't supposed to be a politician.

Actually his lies do matter a lot. They just aren't important to you because he isn't lying about you.

he wasn't a politician until he was

and once he was a politician

he was a better politician than the vast majority of them

all politicians lie

calling a politician a liar

is like saying water is wet

[Aristides]

He was a grifter. Still is. 

[-TSS-]

I wonder is there anybody who believes both that Trump genuinely lost in 2020 and Trump genuinely won in 2016.

It seems that if you think about the controversies surrounding both elections that if you think the controversy around one of the elections is a ridiculous conspiracy-theory you think at the same time that the controversy around the other election is unquestionable truth.

[Aristides]

26 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

I wonder is there anybody who believes both that Trump genuinely lost in 2020 and Trump genuinely won in 2016.

It seems that if you think about the controversies surrounding both elections that if you think the controversy around one of the elections is a ridiculous conspiracy-theory you think at the same time that the controversy around the other election is unquestionable truth.

You are on very scary ground when people claim the only elections that are upfront are the ones they won. 

[Nationalist]

18 hours ago, Aristides said:

He was a grifter. Still is. 

Ya know...I'm beginning to sense jealousy from you.

[Nationalist]

18 hours ago, Aristides said:

You are on very scary ground when people claim the only elections that are upfront are the ones they won. 

So you don't agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was rigged?

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So you don't agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was rigged?

How many Stop the Steal rallies did she hold? Sour grapes but she didn't make it a crusade. She didn't file over 50 court cases, lose them all and still claim it was fraud? Lose in Republican dominated state and finally the federal Supreme Courts and still claim it was fraud. The Trump Cult of the Dear Leader has no respect for the democratic process or the institutions that exist to safeguard it.  You have Trump backed primary candidates saying they would have fired their state electors and put in their own. In other words, they didn't give a shit about how people voted, they are going to decide the winner.

So, do you believe the only legitimate elections are the ones the Republicans win?

Democracy in the US is in real trouble.

 

Edited August 17, 2022 by Aristides

[West]

The entire us system is a fraud. So is the Canadian system... the Conservatives combed thru and disqualified Joseph Bourgault on a very minor thing.. it was sad to watch these parties install WEF cronies

[BeaverFever]

On 8/16/2022 at 9:55 AM, Aristides said:

Trumps economy was financed by tax cuts. Not paying for stuff. In the three years before covid he increased federal debt to GDP by 50%. Kind of like the way he runs his own business's.

File this under the standard “it’s only wrong when the other side does it” excuse.  Republicans claim to be party of balances budgets and shrieking over the the debt but the most massive increases come as a result of feckless Republican tax cuts, write-offs and loopholes for their corporate and ultra-rich masters, combined with no-questions-asked defence contracts. Reagan and Bush Sr QUADRUPLED the national debt while being worshipped by Republicans as a fiscal hawk. Bush Jr did something similar on a smaller scale and only DOUBLED the debt during his term. 

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So you don't agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was rigged?

What a dishonest false comparison. Hillary conceded and acknowledged Trump’s victory.

 

She didn’t claim the election was rigged or that votes country were illegitimate or fraudulent. 
 

She did not foment the lie the that the VP (Joe Biden at the time) had the power to unilaterally ignore and throw out the election results at his sole discretion and declare Hillary the winner and her supporters didn’t storm the Capitol trying to lynch him when it didn’t happen. 

She didn’t launch dozens of baseless amd frivolous lawsuits that cost taxpayers millions and threatened to destroy democracy. 

She did not pressure state election officials to falsify their vote counts in her favour

She did not forge false certificates of electors and try to file them with officials in DC. 

[BeaverFever]

On 8/16/2022 at 10:57 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

that makes him a professional liar

though most of his lies are about things that don't matter

while his competition specializes in lies that do matter

Fascists say: “Election results don’t matter”

 

[Yzermandius19]

30 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Fascists say: “Election results don’t matter”

is that what you're going to say when Trump wins in 2024

and the Democrats say he's an illegitimate POTUS because the Russians helped him steal the election?

Edited August 17, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

What a dishonest false comparison. Hillary conceded and acknowledged Trump’s victory.

 

She didn’t claim the election was rigged or that votes country were illegitimate or fraudulent. 
 

She did not foment the lie the that the VP (Joe Biden at the time) had the power to unilaterally ignore and throw out the election results at his sole discretion and declare Hillary the winner and her supporters didn’t storm the Capitol trying to lynch him when it didn’t happen. 

She didn’t launch dozens of baseless amd frivolous lawsuits that cost taxpayers millions and threatened to destroy democracy. 

She did not pressure state election officials to falsify their vote counts in her favour

She did not forge false certificates of electors and try to file them with officials in DC. 

Well...she does still harp about it.

PLUS...instead of all the things you listed, Hillary-Billary decided to concoct the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA lie.

I think fueling an impeachment of a POTUS sort of trumps what Trump did or did not do.

[WestCanMan]

Saw a great meme yesterday:

 

[Jack9000]

Trump finally got what he deserved throw the corrupt Pos in jail now

[I am Groot]

On 8/16/2022 at 9:21 AM, WestCanMan said:

The Dems are weaponizing the IRS and DOJ and they have been since Obama was POTUS. It's legitimate banana republic stuff.

So are you saying Trump was too stupid to notice or too lazy to do anything about it?

[I am Groot]

On 8/16/2022 at 12:01 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

he wasn't a politician until he was

and once he was a politician

he was a better politician than the vast majority of them

all politicians lie

calling a politician a liar

is like saying water is wet

You know, there's a difference between being a bit slutty and standing on a street corner every night selling your wares to a dozen men a day. Trump is the street-corner prostitute of lying. His picture should be in every dictionary next to the word: liar. 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

His picture should be in every dictionary next to the word: liar. 

Liar.com now redirects to Justin Trudeau's Wikipedia

https://www.inputmag.com/culture/liarcom-redirects-justin-trudeaus-wikipedia-elon-musk

[I am Groot]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Liar.com now redirects to Justin Trudeau's Wikipedia

https://www.inputmag.com/culture/liarcom-redirects-justin-trudeaus-wikipedia-elon-musk

Trudeau is certainly a liar. But he's still small-change compared to Trump's massive, continuous stream of nonsense.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

Trudeau is certainly a liar. But he's still small-change compared to Trump's massive, continuous stream of nonsense.

 

Someone best tell Elon.

[TreeBeard]

On 8/15/2022 at 12:28 PM, sharkman said:

So on the weekend, Alan Dershowitz was interviewed and noted the following about the Trump raid.

He said that (Hilary) Clinton wasn’t searched, investigated or subject to criminal prosecution for her mishandling of classified information.  He went on to emphasize the need for equal treatment under the law regardless of political affiliation.

I googled for this interview, but could find almost nothing in the MSM, whatasurprise.  And so the liberal dupes on this forum get nothing but propaganda, and have no clue how bad it’s getting.

So his legaal argument comes down to “what about Hillary”?   LOL

 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

So his legaal argument comes down to “what about Hillary”?   LOL

 

 

She got off scot-free. The FBI...They're With Her.

?

[TreeBeard]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

She got off scot-free. The FBI...They're With Her.

?

 

Yes, of course.  And that means that what Trump did was legal?  
Or is your argument that since Hillary got away with crimes, then Trump should too?

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

Yes, of course.  And that means that what Trump did was legal?  
Or is your argument that since Hillary got away with crimes, then Trump should too?

 

My argument is as stated. Some folks are simply above the law.