Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Also, Trump's allies still refuse to concede. So this is wrong. They are still trying to decertify and won't acknowledge that Biden is president. I don't blame them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Aristides said: Except Trump did all of that. Inconvenient what? So what? That was the most crooked election anyone has ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. This is a projection. Maybe you get your ideas from media, but I watched the speech and read the documents. What you posted here is patently false. You're repeating MSM lies again. He told people to remain peaceful, and he also said "stroll to the capitol" which the MSM quoted as "March on Washington", which has a 100% militant meaning. Quote 2. I didn't say anything about BLM but nice try. Guilt by association is something Trudeau did with the convoy, and I guess you approve of the tactic. Not in this thread, but you're a diehard leftist through and through, so it's impossible that there's a false narrative which was so widely echoed by the MSM which you didn't support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: 1. You're repeating MSM lies again. 2. Not in this thread, but you're a diehard leftist through and through, so it's impossible that there's a false narrative which was so widely echoed by the MSM which you didn't support. 1. Did he or did he not tell them to fight in his own words? 2. You think anyone who doesn't support Dear Leader is leftist. You probably think that the Bush's and Cheyney's are leftist. So deficient... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: So what? That was the most crooked election anyone has ever seen. Only according to the Trump Cult. According to the Trump Cult, elections aren’t necessary because they never lose any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Aristides said: Only according to the Trump Cult. According to the Trump Cult, elections aren’t necessary because they never lose any. Boy are you ever full of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Did he or did he not tell them to fight in his own words? 2. You think anyone who doesn't support Dear Leader is leftist. You probably think that the Bush's and Cheyney's are leftist. So deficient... Only a complete tweenkie would say Trump meant "fight" physically. Welcome to the Tweenkie Club Mikie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Only a complete tweenkie would say Trump meant "fight" physically. Welcome to the Tweenkie Club Mikie. I was chatting with WestCan, thanks It's pretty clear that he wanted to block your so-called peaceful transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I was chatting with WestCan, thanks It's pretty clear that he wanted to block your so-called peaceful transition. No. It's pretty clear that election was fraudulent as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The part where there was a huge problem but no one really knew for sure that it existed, or to what extent. So.... you can't think of anything? 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The FBI didn't just become a complete farce in 2017, they were a farce all along and we just didn't know it yet. The people at the top didn't just join in 2016. People like McCabe, Strzok, Clinesmith and Comey were worse or they wouldn't have been criminally charged or fired. So anyone Trump fired has to be a terrible person? 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: He picked the best of a bad lot. What? From the entire country? He didn't promote Wray he brought him in from his former job as a law partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Trump is honest about the nature of the political game other politicians try to front like are selfless public servants Trump says that all the time, even foregoing a salary. 18 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: they are bigger hypocrites and liars than Trump will ever be You don't think a Manhattan billionaire who inherited his wealth and never wanted or had anything to do with regular people in his life wasn't a hypocrite by portraying himself as the guy who would stand up for them against corporate America? And then ignored them to reward rich guys and corporate America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: So what? That was the most crooked election anyone has ever seen. Not according to Trump's attorney general. Not according to the Republicans in charge of the voting in the states Trump disputed. In fact, so far no one has been able to find any sign of fraud, except by a few individuals, mostly Republicans. Do you believe anything and everything Trump tells you? Edited August 18, 2022 by I am Groot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Trump says that all the time, even foregoing a salary. You don't think a Manhattan billionaire who inherited his wealth and never wanted or had anything to do with regular people in his life wasn't a hypocrite by portraying himself as the guy who would stand up for them against corporate America? And then ignored them to reward rich guys and corporate America? his business was construction and real estate so yeah he had to deal with regular people on the regular the elites in corporate America always looked down him because he employed working class and middle class people to help him make his money the outsider fighter for the working class story more than fits Edited August 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Boy are you ever full of shite. No, you are full of shite. The elections authorities (including) Republican authorities, say he lost. The courts (including the Supreme Court) say he lost. He effing lost. Your alternate reality is getting very tiresome and pretty much validates exactly what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: his business was construction No it wasn't. He was a real estate developer. And actually, since he went bankrupt he wasn't even doing much of that any more. Instead he was licensing his name on stuff other people owned because back then that meant something. Of course, the 'name' he got was derived entirely from a television show as opposed to his own business abilities. Just now, Yzermandius19 said: so yeah he had to deal with regular people on the regular Servants and employees. Just now, Yzermandius19 said: the elites in corporate America always looked down him Dude, I look down on him. He's a putz. He's got no class and it's quite clear he bought his degree. Just now, Yzermandius19 said: the outsider fighter for the working class story Oh, boy. Of all the garbage associated with Trump that's the most laughably insane! Trumps' dad rented apartments to the working class. Trump wanted nothing to do with such people! He sold them all off and his entire life story has been of him trying to find things to cater to the wealthy: multi-million dollar condos, elite golf clubs, an airline that only had first class, high class casinos with seven kinds of marble in the floors and walls. The only working class people Trump ever wanted anything to do with were his servants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, I am Groot said: So.... you can't think of anything? Top members of the FBI were fired and charged criminally, but people who have TDS will never acknowledge what they don't want to see. Quote So anyone Trump fired has to be a terrible person? Wow, what a stupid take that was. Look at the reasons why people got fired and go from there. Quote What? From the entire country? He didn't promote Wray he brought him in from his former job as a law partner. That was a big mistake. Trump has a terrible track record with his attorneys. Although that Avanatti guy was pretty good. The fine folks at CNN had him pegged for a likely DNC candidate for the presidency. Wray is in a den of snakes and apparently he fits in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Wow, I can't believe that people really buy into the Trump as working class fighter myth... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: Not according to Trump's attorney general. Not according to the Republicans in charge of the voting in the states Trump disputed. In fact, so far no one has been able to find any sign of fraud, except by a few individuals, mostly Republicans. Do you believe anything and everything Trump tells you? No. I believe my eyes. My senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Aristides said: No, you are full of shite. The elections authorities (including) Republican authorities, say he lost. The courts (including the Supreme Court) say he lost. He effing lost. Your alternate reality is getting very tiresome and pretty much validates exactly what I said. Gee you Libbies all come our whe anyone questions that crooked election. Lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Gee you Libbies all come our whe anyone questions that crooked election. Lol... Any election you don't win has to be crooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Contrarian said: He lied to the middle class. The white working class middle American specifically which got hit by the Artificial Intelligence wave was lied the most with this idea to bring this jobs back. Yes, there were more jobs, because people were working multiple part times jobs in my view, the big elephant in the room is that the union jobs, the GM jobs, the good old times are not coming. Technology has changed all this. You need 1 human to maintain several machines. Is the reality. I can see why people of the above group would see a savior in this "man of the people". He told them what they wanted to hear, the magic words "Bring jobs back" and in their desperation they bought it. Trump = Bernie Sanders of the right. he did bring manufacturing jobs back there was no lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Contrarian said: He lied to the middle class. The white working class middle American specifically which got hit by the Artificial Intelligence wave was lied the most with this idea to bring this jobs back. Yes, there were more jobs, because people were working multiple part times jobs in my view, the big elephant in the room is that the union jobs, the GM jobs, the good old times are not coming. Technology has changed all this. You need 1 human to maintain several machines. Is the reality. I can see why people of the above group would see a savior in this "man of the people". He told them what they wanted to hear, the magic words "Bring jobs back" and in their desperation they bought it. Trump = Bernie Sanders of the right. Sorta like how Biden vowed to end "Covid" but more have died under his presidency than under Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, West said: Sorta like how Biden vowed to end "Covid" but more have died under his presidency than under Trump? You think COVID is real now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Aristides said: Any election you don't win has to be crooked. Now you're be silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) null 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: Now you're be silly. So you are good with Trump's minions appointing electors who will give them a victory regardless of the election result and firing those who follow the election result. https://people.com/politics/trump-backed-arizona-candidate-says-he-wont-concede-if-he-loses-on-tuesday/ https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kelli-ward-arizona-gop-donald-trump/2022/06/24/id/1076010/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/kari-lake-trump-backed-election-denier-wins-gop-primary-arizona-govern-rcna41317 Quote Lake, a longtime local news anchor supported by Trump and a number of his allies, had previously suggested she wouldn't accept the results of her election if she lost and that the race had already been tainted by fraud and irregularities. But as she won, the election had to be totally legit. Democracy in the Trump age. Edited August 19, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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