WestCanMan Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: https://people.com/politics/trump-backed-arizona-candidate-says-he-wont-concede-if-he-loses-on-tuesday/ Here's an actual quote from the article you cited: Quote Axios reports that, at a June fundraiser, 65-year-old Finchem said, "Ain't gonna be no concession speech coming from this guy. I'm going to demand a 100% hand count if there's the slightest hint that there's an impropriety. And I will urge the next governor to do the same." Now don't you feel stupid? He didn't say that he was never going to concede, he'd just demand a full recount if there's the slightest hint of impropriety. AND, he will urge the next governor to do the same. FYI the next guvnor could be a Demmie. That means that he'd be advising a Demmie to do exactly what he just said that he would do. I didn't even bother reading the rest of your idiotic clickbait. It's such a laugh that you guys continually say things like: "I wonet evin reed that cuz Tuckr Carlson sed it" but then you gobble up articles that basically say "Hey dickhead, the title of this article isn't supported by the near-facts contained in it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Here's an actual quote from the article you cited: Now don't you feel stupid? He didn't say that he was never going to concede, he'd just demand a full recount if there's the slightest hint of impropriety. AND, he will urge the next governor to do the same. FYI the next guvnor could be a Demmie. That means that he'd be advising a Demmie to do exactly what he just said that he would do. I didn't even bother reading the rest of your idiotic clickbait. It's such a laugh that you guys continually say things like: "I wonet evin reed that cuz Tuckr Carlson sed it" but then you gobble up articles that basically say "Hey dickhead, the title of this article isn't supported by the near-facts contained in it." He also said. Quote He has said he wants to ban early voting, co-sponsored a bill that would allow the state's Republican-led legislature the ability to overturn election results, and is currently gathering signatures on a petition that says it would decertify the state's 2020 election results, despite the fact that a petition cannot legally overturn them (and despite the fact that several lawsuits and audits have confirmed Trump's loss in Arizona). Don't you feel stupid. Edited August 19, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: null So you are good with Trump's minions appointing electors who will give them a victory regardless of the election result and firing those who follow the election result. https://people.com/politics/trump-backed-arizona-candidate-says-he-wont-concede-if-he-loses-on-tuesday/ https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kelli-ward-arizona-gop-donald-trump/2022/06/24/id/1076010/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/kari-lake-trump-backed-election-denier-wins-gop-primary-arizona-govern-rcna41317 But as she won, the election had to be totally legit. Democracy in the Trump age. funny I didn't hear you bitching about faithless electors in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: funny I didn't hear you bitching about faithless electors in 2016 Why would I? They didn't do anything different than they did in 2020. Edited August 19, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Why would I? They didn't do anything different than they did in 2020. yet you bitch about 2020's faithless electors because this time they sided with Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: yet you bitch about 2020's faithless electors because this time they sided with Trump WTF are you talking about? They decided according to the outcome of the votes in their states. That's their job and why the Trump Cult wanted to get rid of them and put their own puppets in place to overturn the results. Edited August 19, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: WTF are you talking about? They decided on the outcome of the votes in their states. That's their job and why the Trump Cult wanted to get rid of them and put their own puppets in place to overturn the results. in 2016 they didn't do their job and voted for others even though Trump won those states didn't hear you bitching about it that time though it's not the faithless electors you're mad at, it's only one's that supports Trump you are mad at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: in 2016 they didn't do their job and voted for others even though Trump won those states didn't hear you bitching about it that time though it's not the faithless electors you're mad at, it's only one's that supports Trump you are mad at Bullshit. There were recounts after recounts and court case after court case. The Trump Cult just decided they could name their own electors and overturn a democratic election. You idiots believing this shit are a real threat to democracy. You think that if someone loses an election all they have to do is make their own rules and overturn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Bullshit. There were recounts after recounts and court case after court case. The Trump Cult just decided they could name their own electors and overturn a democratic election. You idiots believing this shit are a real threat to democracy. You think that if someone loses an election all they have to do is make their own rules and overturn it. The Democrat cult decided to overturn a democratic election in 2016 too why did you not bitch about it then? why did only bitch about it when Trump's side did it? Edited August 19, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The Democrat cult decided to overturn a democratic election in 2016 too why did you not bitch about it then? why did only bitch about it when Trump's side did it? Really? How many stop the steal rallies? How many court cases? In what states did they try to appoint their own electors and overturn a result? How many state secretaries of state did she call asking them to "find" her enough votes to reverse the result in their state? If the Trump Cult can retroactively appoint puppet electors to overturn a result, what is to stop any other party from doing it in future elections if they control a state legislature but lose a vote in a federal election? If you guys actually believe in democracy, you are really playing with fire. Edited August 19, 2022 by Aristides 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 "Guys I only need 11,000 votes, come on." Georgia is taking the interference seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: Really? How many stop the steal rallies? How many court cases? In what states did they try to appoint their own electors and overturn a result? How many state secretaries of state did she call asking them to "find" her enough votes to reverse the result in their state? If the Trump Cult can retroactively appoint puppet electors to overturn a result, what is to stop any other party from doing it in future elections if they control a state legislature but lose a vote in a federal election? If you guys actually believe in democracy, you are really playing with fire. In Texas, Trump only got 36 of 38 electoral votes in 2016 because faithless electors didn't want to vote for Trump in 2020, there was no faithless electors so when it actually happened in 2016, no bitching from you and when it didn't happen in 2020, you bitch about it constantly obvious partisan hack is obvious Edited August 19, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: In Texas, Trump only got 36 of 38 electoral votes in 2016 And so these “faithless electors” voted for the Democratic presidential candidate, is that your contention? Or are you leaving out some vital information? Edited August 19, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: And so these “faithless electors” voted for the Democratic presidential candidate, is that your contention? Or are you leaving out some vital information? one voted for John Kasich, the other for Ron Paul none of the Trump haters on this forum bitched about them robbing Trump of electoral votes in 2020, there were no faithless electors at all yet the Trump haters in this forum bitch about some people wanting to rob Biden of electoral votes in the same manner both Trump and Clinton were in 2016 even though Biden lost none obvious partisan hacks are obvious Edited August 19, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: one voted for John Kasich, the other for Ron Paul So they voted for Republicans. What do the Democrats or liberals have to do with this? Sounds like a Republican Party issue to me. Democrats never had any fake electors, like Trump supporters. Also, there’s a big difference between “faithless”, which seems to be legal and part of the system and FAKE. The whole electors system is idiotic, but that’s another story. Edited August 20, 2022 by TreeBeard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Democrats never had any fake electors, like Trump supporters The whole electors system is idiotic, but that’s another story. tell that to Spotted Owl and Bernie Sanders who both received electoral votes instead of Clinton there were faithless electors on both sides in 2016 yet no bitching from Trump Haters here about it only bitching about potential faithless electors in 2020, who never materialized Edited August 20, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: tell that to Spotted Owl and Bernie Sanders who both received electoral votes instead of Clinton Tell them what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: there were faithless electors on both sides in 2016 yet no bitching from Trump Haters here about it They’re part of the bizarre system. FAKE electors are not and are illegal. Why are you conflating the two? Edited August 20, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: They’re part of the bizarre system. FAKE electors are not and are illegal. Why are you conflating the two? nonsense the potential "fake electors" you speak of would simply have been faithless electors part of the bizarre system it's the same thing Edited August 20, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: nonsense the potential "fake electors" you speak of would simply have been faithless electors part of the bizarre system it's the same thing The Georgia (and other states) elector issue was sending FAKE electors. It wasn’t about the actual selected electors voting for Trump. You really don’t understand that? Edited August 20, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: The Georgia issue is sending FAKE electors. It wasn’t about the actual selected electors voting for Trump. You really don’t understand that? they simply wanted to pick different electors that's part of the system you really don't understand that and want to pretend like it's different there were no faithless electors in 2020 there was in 2016 yet you Trump haters want to pretend like 2020 was the bigger steal obvious partisan hacks are obvious Edited August 20, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: they simply wanted to pick different electors that's part of the system They weren’t selected as electors. They were FAKE electors, not faithless electors. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: They weren’t selected as electors. They were FAKE electors, not faithless electors. LOL not everyone is selected as electors who try to become electors it works that way in every presidential election 2020 was no different trying to get faithless electors choosen as electors is perfectly legal and part of the system faithless electors were actually chosen in 2016 and it didn't happen in 2020 yet you want to bitch about it in 2020 because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome Edited August 20, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: not everyone is selected as electors who try to become electors it works that way in every presidential election 2020 was no different trying to get faithless electors choosen as electors is perfectly legal and part of the system faithless electors were actually chosen in 2016 and it didn't happen in 2020 yet you want to bitch about it in 2020 because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome There were no faithless electors in 2020. That much is true. But there were fake electors. These people were pretending to be electors. You are conflating fake electors with faithless electors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: There were no faithless electors in 2020. That much is true. But there were fake electors. These people were pretending to be electors. You are conflating fake electors with faithless electors. there were no fake electors simply people who weren't chosen to be electors whoop dee doo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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