'Merica officially becomes Venezuela: Maralogo raided by Biden's goon squad

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

So are you saying Trump was too stupid to notice or too lazy to do anything about it?

I'm saying that just because he's the POTUS doesn't mean that he could fix all of Washington's problems.

[sharkman]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

So his legaal argument comes down to “what about Hillary”?   LOL

 

He’s one of the leading legal minds out of the 20th century, so you better contact him with this error you’ve noticed.  Since you’re, you know, treebeard.

[TreeBeard]

3 minutes ago, sharkman said:

He’s one of the leading legal minds out of the 20th century, so you better contact him with this error you’ve noticed.  Since you’re, you know, treebeard.

 no legal opinion was contained there.  Only, “but what about Hilary”????

[sharkman]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

 no legal opinion was contained there.  Only, “but what about Hilary”????

Did you see the interview?  No you did not.  Get back to me when you’ve watched the interview, then at least you’ll be wrong about something.  Right now you’re just blowing smoke.

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm saying that just because he's the POTUS doesn't mean that he could fix all of Washington's problems.

Okay then. Which part DID he fix? 

As to the FBI, he appointed the director. Are you saying he screwed up (again)?

[Yzermandius19]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You know, there's a difference between being a bit slutty and standing on a street corner every night selling your wares to a dozen men a day. Trump is the street-corner prostitute of lying. His picture should be in every dictionary next to the word: liar. 

Trump is honest about the nature of the political game

other politicians try to front like are selfless public servants

they are bigger hypocrites and liars than Trump will ever be

he doesn't focus group every word that comes out of his mouth

he doesn't read off a script 

and the people appreciate the difference

Edited August 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[BeaverFever]

On 8/16/2022 at 4:34 AM, DogOnPorch said:

 

Before 1941, Germany was keen to appear to be playing legally re: their Jewish persecution mainly to placate America. Jews seeking to leave Germany were issued a certificate for half the estimated value of their property in RM. They were not allowed to take the actual property. Only 8% of that half-total was allowed to be transferred to another foreign bank (usually Swiss banks). So one had to trust that the Nazis would make good on that. They didn't, of course. But the surviving Jews did have the certificate. These were the basis for many post-war claims on Jewish wealth. Problems occurred as the Nazis didn't issue death certificates for any Jew killed in the Final Solution and the Swiss bankers demanded that for any claims to these various defunct Jewish bank accounts (the Swiss didn't close accounts).

Typical certificate from the Haavara Agreement (below). You can search for other examples.

The irony here was this particular action was used by the Grand Mufti al-Husseini (Arafat's uncle) to help instigate the Final Solution in Hungary. Nearly a million killed. Hungary had a large Jewish population that had been escaping to British Palestine at an almost leisurely pace via an agreement with neutral Turkey. The Jews paid the Turks a head tax and away they went...with what property they could carry. The Mufti had Himmler & Eichmann reroute all these Jews to Poland with predictable results.

Re: Orange Man Bad...Your hatred of Trump will not save you from what is coming. I suggest a new tactic. Using the FBI as one's own private army to persecute your political opponent is Hitler stuff. Your willingness to tow the line in the face of obvious corruption makes me think you're part of the problem. That I find regrettable.

 

 

This is not the same thing as saying “the Nazis issued receipts”. It is specific to a particular situation, not a general practice and is not really a receipt of confiscated assets.

 

Anyhoo, just because your beloved criminal is a politician doesn’t mean he’s being politically persecuted. You are the one toeing the line in the face of obvious corruption. 

[BeaverFever]

13 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

is that what you're going to say when Trump wins in 2024

and the Democrats say he's an illegitimate POTUS because the Russians helped him steal the election?

No believing election results don’t matter is clearly a Republican tactic.

And as already clearly stated and understood by everyone who’s not a deranged Trump supporter,  there’s absolutely no similarity between Trump’s Big Lie and those who correctly pointed out Trumps campaign was helped Russian pro-Trump propaganda. Hillary conceded. Nobody claimed  the 2016 election results were illegitimate. 

[BeaverFever]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well...she does still harp about it.

PLUS...instead of all the things you listed, Hillary-Billary decided to concoct the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA lie.

I think fueling an impeachment of a POTUS sort of trumps what Trump did or did not do.

“Harping” after conceding defeat is not at all the same thing as the Big Lie, refusing the orderly and democratic transfer of power in am effort to not only steal the White House but end US democracy in the process by spreading baseless conspiracies, forging election results,  sending a violent mob to storm the Capitol, and trying to invent new made-up political procedures to produce the desired results  

AND impeaching the President is not anywhere the same either. If Bill Clinton can het impeached for lying about a blowjob, Trump can get impeached for lying about his campaigns secret dealings with Russians. 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

She got off scot-free. The FBI...They're With Her.

?

The FBI publicly stating on the eve if the 2016 election that they had “new evidence” of thousands of Hillary’s emails is likely what cost her the election and got Trump elected. 
 

Then afterwards  it turned out to be a nothingburger and just additional copies of emails they already had. 
 

Funny way to be “with her.”

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump is honest about the nature of the political game

other politicians try to front like are selfless public servants

they are bigger hypocrites and liars than Trump will ever be

he doesn't focus group every word that comes out of his mouth

he doesn't read off a script 

and the people appreciate the difference

“Vote Trump:  he admits to being a liar and a crook, not like those other guys. Appreciate the difference. ”

 

There’s your 2024 slogan right there

Edited August 18, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Yzermandius19]

45 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

No believing election results don’t matter is clearly a Republican tactic.

And as already clearly stated and understood by everyone who’s not a deranged Trump supporter,  there’s absolutely no similarity between Trump’s Big Lie and those who correctly pointed out Trumps campaign was helped Russian pro-Trump propaganda. Hillary conceded. Nobody claimed  the 2016 election results were illegitimate. 

almost every Democrat claimed 2016 was illegitimate and they never stopped

even after Russia-gate was exposed as a hoax

the Democrats also claimed 2000 was illegitimate

and Gore didn't concede for over a month

the Democrats also heavily contested the 1824 and 1876 elections

but at least in both those cases they had a much better beef

calling it a Republican tactic is laughable

both sides often do it in very close elections

and historically speaking it's mostly the Democrats contesting election results

Stacey Abrams in the 2018 Georgia governor election is another recent example 

 

you're such an American political noob

and an obvious Democrat party hack

Edited August 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

“Vote Trump:  he admits to being a liar and a crook, not like those other guys. Appreciate the difference. ”

 

There’s your 2024 slogan right there

don't have to be Usain Bolt when racing against toddlers

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

“Harping” after conceding defeat is not at all the same thing as the Big Lie, refusing the orderly and democratic transfer of power in am effort to not only steal the White House but end US democracy in the process by spreading baseless conspiracies, forging election results,  sending a violent mob to storm the Capitol, and trying to invent new made-up political procedures to produce the desired results  

AND impeaching the President is not anywhere the same either. If Bill Clinton can het impeached for lying about a blowjob, Trump can get impeached for lying about his campaigns secret dealings with Russians. 

Was there a peaceful transfer of power? Yes.

Did Trump tell the people to be peaceful? Yes.

Was there any "secret dealings with Russia? Yes. By Hunter Biden.

[Michael Hardner]

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Did Trump people to be peaceful? Yes.

Only after he rallied a crowd to go "fight" for democracy, pressured his VP to do something unconstitutional, asked Georgia Republicans to find 11,000 votes, and had his team nominate their own state electors, submit unverified claims of fraud... Etc.

All of which are unprecedented in a modern American election.

Your selective examples of what he did, ignoring the most obvious examples, follows the pattern of intellectual dishonesty that this cult engages in.

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Was there a peaceful transfer of power? Yes.

Also, Trump's allies still refuse to concede.  So this is wrong.  They are still trying to decertify and won't acknowledge that Biden is president.

[Nationalist]

52 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Only after he rallied a crowd to go "fight" for democracy, pressured his VP to do something unconstitutional, asked Georgia Republicans to find 11,000 votes, and had his team nominate their own state electors, submit unverified claims of fraud... Etc.

All of which are unprecedented in a modern American election.

Your selective examples of what he did, ignoring the most obvious examples, follows the pattern of intellectual dishonesty that this cult engages in.

LOL...Mikie...you do realize how thin and silly this argument is...don't you?

[Aristides]

14 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

LOL...Mikie...you do realize how thin and silly this argument is...don't you?

Except Trump did all of that. Inconvenient what?

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

LOL...Mikie...you do realize how thin and silly this argument is...don't you?

I don't think so. And why didn't you include any of this in your post then? 

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Okay then. Which part DID he fix? 

The part where there was a huge problem but no one really knew for sure that it existed, or to what extent.

The FBI didn't just become a complete farce in 2017, they were a farce all along and we just didn't know it yet.

The people at the top didn't just join in 2016. People like McCabe, Strzok, Clinesmith and Comey were worse or they wouldn't have been criminally charged or fired.

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As to the FBI, he appointed the director. Are you saying he screwed up (again)?

He picked the best of a bad lot. 

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

This is not the same thing as saying “the Nazis issued receipts”. It is specific to a particular situation, not a general practice and is not really a receipt of confiscated assets.

Nothing was mischaracterized in his arguments. You could have just learned something of historical significance from his post, instead you made a pathetic attempt to discredit him. That's pathetic. 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

No believing election results don’t matter is clearly a Republican tactic.

That's just plain ignorance right there, especially coming from someone who still sleeps with a Russian collusion blankie.

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

“Harping” after conceding defeat is not at all the same thing as the Big Lie,

She didn't just harp - she colluded with foreign agents to compile a bunch of fake intel, paid her lawyer to pretend he was just being a good samaritan when he dumped that fake intel on the FBI, her lackeys at the FBI lied about it's validity and pretended that it was independently corroborated when they presented it to a FISA judge, and then the Dems, their MSM friends & family and the crooked FBI ran that charade at max volume for the American people for 3 years in an attempt to thwart democracy.

It kinda worked, because some people are still dumb enough to believe that Trump colluded with Russians in order to get them to buy $200K worth of FB ads which targeted both parties..... Dummmmb de-dumb dummmmmmb.

The Big Lie, if there really is such a thing, is the one that you paraded here every day for 3 years. It's honestly just absurd to see you of all people calling someone else a liar. It's like Hitler accusing someone else of being a Nazi. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Only after he...

He told people to remain peaceful. He asked his VP to do something which was NOT unconstitutional. 

The Dem/MSM lies about Jan 6th are almost as bad as their lies about Russian collusion and you've been sucked in yet again lol.

Jan 6th was actually an extremely peaceful protest compared to the BLM protests which people of your ilk call "mostly peaceful protests". 

[Michael Hardner]

34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1. He told people to remain peaceful. He asked his VP to do something which was NOT unconstitutional. 

The Dem/MSM lies about Jan 6th are almost as bad as their lies about Russian collusion and you've been sucked in yet again lol.

2. Jan 6th was actually an extremely peaceful protest compared to the BLM protests which people of your ilk call "mostly peaceful protests". 

1. This is a projection.  Maybe you get your ideas from media, but I watched the speech and read the documents.  What you posted here is patently false.

2. I didn't say anything about BLM but nice try.  Guilt by association is something Trudeau did with the convoy, and I guess you approve of the tactic.