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According to the logic above if Erdogan wakes up and says that in the name of the Ottoman empire he needs some land back we should all clap? These chameleons that probably get 1 borch a week from the FSB are comical.

Russian Military Barge Destroyed, Missiles Hit Kryvyi Rih Airport, Ukraine Reveals “Number One Goal”

 

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On 9/24/2022 at 3:52 PM, Contrarian said:

"Russia" is complex. 

Let us dissect the groups: 

a) The old Soviet generation group that has melancholia about the Soviet Union. For them, every time Putin moves in old Soviet territory they think the old red empire is coming back.
b) There is a group of Russian sympathizers of the tsar and see in Putin exactly that, an image of the tsar. This group can be older or younger. The younger group tends to identify more with him as a strongman as they don't identify with the tsar.
c) There is also a group of far-right elements in Russia. They are mostly hooligans from the soccer teams. I remember watching a documentary years ago in regards to the events at the Euro Cup when the Russians beat the English in street fighting. A lot of them were saying on camera that Putin's FSB paid for their release on bail and helped them flee back to Russia. They are the ones that are lining up now to join. 
d) There are also Russian-speaking young poor people in the Eastern Side of Ukraine that join far-left militias like Stronghold. Putin is using both extremes for his advantage. Outside and Inside.
e) Democratic thinking voters (the few thousands that are shown on TV or are fleeing now out of fear). 

So who from "The People"? In my realistic view, the oligarchy, if they start losing enough money. 

Some groups of people just have the affinity to be ruled by "strongmen" (Nikolai II, Lenin, Stalin ... now Putin). 

More from the group of people that have the affinity to be ruled by strongmen

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Russia has always been ruled by strong men (and one woman). They really don't know anything else.

Yes, let us hear more of the speech today, the man is talking like his army went close to Paris: 
 

NATO Secretary General  responds to #Russia's illegal and illegitimate annexation of four regions of #Ukraine 

 

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13 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, let us hear more of the speech today, the man is talking like his army went close to Paris: 
 

NATO Secretary General  responds to #Russia's illegal and illegitimate annexation of four regions of #Ukraine 

 

 

 

 

Maybe he thinks he is another Alexander 1st.

I loved the NATO Salesman of the Year award.

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2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Putin has backed himself into a corner. Militarily he has lost so what does he do now. Cornered rats are dangerous.

He already said what he’s going to do.  He’s calling up 300,000 more soldiers.  He initially had 180,000 I believe so this is quite an increase.

So what does the other side do?  They blow up the Nord Stream pipelines, both of them. Germany will freeze this winter, what do you think of that?

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58 minutes ago, sharkman said:

He already said what he’s going to do.  He’s calling up 300,000 more soldiers.  He initially had 180,000 I believe so this is quite an increase.

So what does the other side do?  They blow up the Nord Stream pipelines, both of them. Germany will freeze this winter, what do you think of that?

Poorly trained and equipped, they will be dog meat for highly trained, highly motivated and well equipped Ukrainians. The Russian regulars outnumbered the Ukrainian army 10 to 1 and still got their asses kicked. Do you seriously expect this bunch being given WW2 vintage rifles designed in the 1880's to do any better?

Nordstream 1 was already shut down and Nordstream 2 hasn't been completed. 

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29 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Poorly trained and equipped, they will be dog meat for highly trained, highly motivated and well equipped Ukrainians. The Russian regulars outnumbered the Ukrainian army 10 to 1 and still got their asses kicked. Do you seriously expect this bunch being given WW2 vintage rifles designed in the 1880's to do any better?

Nordstream 1 was already shut down and Nordstream 2 hasn't been completed. 

It sounds like you are not ready to confront the German winter.  Neither are they.

This war has moved closer to nuclear involvement, or it could draw in the rest of the world.  I just want it to end.

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3 minutes ago, sharkman said:

It sounds like you are not ready to confront the German winter.  Neither are they.

This war has moved closer to nuclear involvement, or it could draw in the rest of the world.  I just want it to end.

Neither are you. A new pipeline from Norway was just opened. We'll see. Who doesn't want it to end. Ukraine has the right to defend itself regardless of what we might want.

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5 hours ago, Aristides said:

Russia has always been ruled by strong men (and one woman). They really don't know anything else.

History teaches us that at the end Russia will defeat hysterical Anglo-Khazarian globalist evil.
The end result is what counts.
Don't you agree.

Putin:
"The Anglo-Saxons believe sanctions are no longer enough and now they have turned to subversion. It seems incredible but it is a fact – by causing explosions on Nord Stream’s international gas pipelines passing along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, they have actually embarked on the destruction of Europe’s entire energy infrastructure. It is clear to everyone who stands to gain. Those who benefit are responsible".


https://www.rt.com/russia/563827-putin-speech-colonial-west/

 

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3 minutes ago, athos said:

I think at the end Russia will defeat Anglo-Khazarian globalist evil.

The end result is what counts.

Don't you agree.

No because the system is rotten, just like the Soviet system. It can only survive by oppressing the people it is supposed to represent.

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5 hours ago, Aristides said:

No because the system is rotten, just like the Soviet system. It can only survive by oppressing the people it is supposed to represent.

I don't think "oppressed people" would celebrate like that.

The reaction of the residents of Dombas and Luhansk when they learned that they had become part of Mother Russia

 

 

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How Putin defends children against "The Satanic Anglo-Khazarian Globalists"

Well stated Mr. Putin. Thank you on behalf of many sane-minded common sense thinking people in the West for standing up for your people and not bowing to the insanity that has overtaken the Anglo-Khazarian Satan today.

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hahaha, athos you might be the real deal, this is the new game, the FSB putting themselves on the world's stage as saviors of "traditionalism" .

It is true that western excess in some sectors allowed for this loophole for your brethren to reach out to these troubled chameleons in our midst, but your logic does not work athos. 

Let me remind the minds that are on the fence, that the Russian Church is lead by a man that did exactly what people did to Jesus Christ in theory if we follow your book. Judas informed on Jesus.

This is what Patriarch Kirill did, he was a KGB agent, not only an informer, he was an agent, meaning his activities made a lot of people disappear. 

Make sure you respond to this message, I don't think the agency can afford to pay lazy people now, with the economy not going well in Russia, it must be fierce competition even in the foreign brainwashing department. Oh the battles between trolls you must have going there. 

Is it a better assignment to post on forums or on Twitter? 😃

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On 9/25/2022 at 11:56 AM, DogOnPorch said:

 

You want war & death. I do not. There's the difference.

Yes you do. You were all for war and death started by your Dear Leader. You only claim to want peace now because you’re losing, and you only want a peace that allows Putin to lick in what few gains he still has.
 

If you really want peace so bad why didn’t you condemn Putin’s invasion in the first place and why aren’t you calling for Putin to unconditionally withdraw?

Your shameless insincerity and  two-bit lies aren’t fooling anyone. 

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15 hours ago, athos said:

 

How Putin defends children against "The Satanic Anglo-Khazarian Globalists"

Well stated Mr. Putin. Thank you on behalf of many sane-minded common sense thinking people in the West for standing up for your people and not bowing to the insanity that has overtaken the Anglo-Khazarian Satan today.

Meanwhile in the real world…Russia keeps losing:

Russia withdraws troops after Ukraine encircles key city
 

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — After being encircled by Ukrainian forces, Russia pulled troops out Saturday from an eastern Ukrainian city that it had been using as a front-line hub. It was the latest victory for the Ukrainian counteroffensive that has humiliated and angered the Kremlin.

Russia’s withdrawal from Lyman complicates its internationally vilified declaration just a day earlier that it had annexed four regions of Ukraine — an area that includes Lyman. Taking the city paves the way for Ukrainian troops to potentially push further into land that Moscow now illegally claims as its own.

“The Ukrainian flag is already in Lyman, Donetsk region. Fighting is still going on there. But there is no trace of any pseudo-referendum there,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in his nightly address Saturday.

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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-kidnapping-government-and-politics-cce973f2c43dc0d85883d46642fc970c?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01

 

 

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On 10/1/2022 at 10:56 AM, Aristides said:

No because the system is rotten, just like the Soviet system. It can only survive by oppressing the people it is supposed to represent.

But the Russian president is not the drunken Yeltsin who was the best Russian president for the West or the senile Biden who is the best president for US deep state.
Unlike them, Putin is the best Russian president for Russia.

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