War In Ukraine

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

And it's going right for you? Talk about warped. You're free to buy some of Trudeau's junk Ukraine war bonds if you really want to throw your money at Nazi laundromats.

Case closed - warp reality.  You're beyond help now and nobody's going to save you from your own delusions.  Keep reading your blogs and your 4chan pages.  They'll tell you what you want to hear and make you feel comfy.  

 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

And it's going right for you? Talk about warped. You're free to buy some of Trudeau's junk Ukraine war bonds if you really want to throw your money at Nazi laundromats.

Some "users" on this site behave more like automated bots, that actual people.

You won't get rational responses from a bot.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

The Wall Street Journal is circulating a video footage. 

Footage circulated on social media appears to depict the moments before nearly a dozen Russian soldiers were shot after surrendering, raising accusations of war crimes.

I won't post the video, don't like to promote such garbage and tribalism in the military, as Musk said it once in one of his rare moments of wisdom: 

"There are no angels in war". 

As I have said many many times.

These Russians and Ukes deserve each other.

NATO needs to stay the hell outta this!

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Finally some light.

So you admit there are 3 forces now?

Russia, Ukraine and NATO?

Admit? Of course there are too many cooks involved. I'd even add the EU and the US independently.

Everyone wants their moment in the spotlight over this chickenshit war.

And as it all pans out...a few things that a few of us have been harping about, have come to be true.

1. The "cause" of this war is...complicated.

2. The news of the execution of this war has been...a bit warped.

3. NEITHER Zelinsky nor Putin are "good guys" in this.

4. This is NOT our war. It is NOT a good idea to get involved.

5. The reactions via sanctions and such...are inflicting undue real suffering on pretty much everyone globally.

THUS...One must ask...'Is this worth it?'

Edited November 22, 2022 by Nationalist

[BeaverFever]

On 11/20/2022 at 8:56 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

By the rather biased McKenzie Intelligence Services that I trust about as much as the Democrats to tell the truth.

False. Stop lying. 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/21/2022 at 12:00 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

A British deep state think tank that's all-in with the military industrial complex and the forever war is going to teach us all about those dastardly Russians and their remarkable ability to change the basic function of a SAM to that of a ballistic missile...all while Russia has THOUSANDS of older ballistic missiles in storage....waiting to go.

You follow them...

They don’t have thousands of scuds ready to use in occupied areas of Ukraine. Their forces there are firing what they have available  

 

Why would there be a vast conspiracy all the way back in July to falsely report something so obscure and specific to the public as s300s being fired at ground targets?  Quit being such a nutjob 

[BeaverFever]

13 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As I have said many many times.

These Russians and Ukes deserve each other.

NATO needs to stay the hell outta this!

Oh so NOW you believe the MSM is reporting the truth mow that its convenient for you?  

[sharkman]

The amount of propaganda in this thread is breathtaking.  It really is true, the very first casualty in any war is the truth.
 

What did Churchill say again about the truth? 

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."

Edited November 23, 2022 by sharkman

[BeaverFever]

Stay tuned! Remember you heard it here first!

 

Kremlin Plans False-Flag Attack on Russian Soil to Gain Public Backing: ISW

 

Russia is planning to carry out a "false-flag" attack on its own territory to bolster public support for its war in Ukraine, according to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW).

An ISW report released Tuesday night found that the Kremlin is setting the stage for a fake Ukrainian invasion of southern Russia's Belgorod region, which borders Ukraine near Kharkiv. The think tank suggested that the "absurd" Ukrainian invasion claims pushed by "Kremlin propagandists" could serve to gain public support and appease "the Russian pro-war nationalist community."

"The Kremlin appears to be setting information conditions for a false-flag attack in Belgorod Oblast, Russia, likely in an effort to regain public support for the war in Ukraine," the ISW report states. "Russian claims of an imminent Ukrainian attack on Belgorod Oblast are absurd and only aim to scare the general public to support the war."

"Ukraine has no strategic interest in invading Russia and no ability to do so at such a scale," it continues. "These ridiculous speculations about a fantastical Ukrainian invasion of Russia may also be part of the Kremlin's effort to acknowledge and appease the Russian pro-war nationalist community."

…

https://www.newsweek.com/kremlin-plans-false-flag-attack-russian-soil-gain-public-backing-isw-1761591?utm_source=Flipboard&utm_medium=App&utm_campaign=Partnerships

 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Oh so NOW you believe the MSM is reporting the truth mow that its convenient for you?  

What? Beave...go home...

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Stay tuned! Remember you heard it here first!

 

Kremlin Plans False-Flag Attack on Russian Soil to Gain Public Backing: ISW

 

Russia is planning to carry out a "false-flag" attack on its own territory to bolster public support for its war in Ukraine, according to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW).

An ISW report released Tuesday night found that the Kremlin is setting the stage for a fake Ukrainian invasion of southern Russia's Belgorod region, which borders Ukraine near Kharkiv. The think tank suggested that the "absurd" Ukrainian invasion claims pushed by "Kremlin propagandists" could serve to gain public support and appease "the Russian pro-war nationalist community."

"The Kremlin appears to be setting information conditions for a false-flag attack in Belgorod Oblast, Russia, likely in an effort to regain public support for the war in Ukraine," the ISW report states. "Russian claims of an imminent Ukrainian attack on Belgorod Oblast are absurd and only aim to scare the general public to support the war."

"Ukraine has no strategic interest in invading Russia and no ability to do so at such a scale," it continues. "These ridiculous speculations about a fantastical Ukrainian invasion of Russia may also be part of the Kremlin's effort to acknowledge and appease the Russian pro-war nationalist community."

…

https://www.newsweek.com/kremlin-plans-false-flag-attack-russian-soil-gain-public-backing-isw-1761591?utm_source=Flipboard&utm_medium=App&utm_campaign=Partnerships

 

The desperation is strong in this one.

[BeaverFever]

54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What? Beave...go home...

Yeah. The MSM reported something convenient for you so you suddenly believe them just this one time after all the time claiming the MSM is just a Ukrainian/Nato/Biden /Nazi propaganda machine   Explain yourself 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah. The MSM reported something convenient for you so you suddenly believe them just this one time after all the time claiming the MSM is just a Ukrainian/Nato/Biden /Nazi propaganda machine   Explain yourself 

When a main stream media source begins turning on Zelinsky, you know that its MUCH worse than made out to be.

I doubt this has even occurred to you...so go home...

[BeaverFever]

52 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The desperation is strong in this one.

So if Russia suddenly starts claiming Ukrainians have invaded Belgorod exactly as this piece describes will you believe it then?

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

When a main stream media source begins turning on Zelinsky, you know that its MUCH worse than made out to be.

I doubt this has even occurred to you...so go home...

So your new belief  is the MSM  “has turned on Zelensky” and you will believe them from now on?

Edited November 23, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

So if Russia suddenly starts claiming Ukrainians have invaded Belgorod exactly as this piece describes will you believe it then?

Beave...you mistake me for someone who cares about either Russia or Ukraine. I do not.

My only position is that NATO must stay out of this.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

So your new belief  is the MSM  “has turned on Zelensky” and you will believe them from now on?

No Beave. Please quit being so...brick-ish.

[BeaverFever]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Beave...you mistake me for someone who cares about either Russia or Ukraine. I do not.

My only position is that NATO must stay out of this.

As expected you dodged the question. Answer the question:
 

So if Russia suddenly starts claiming Ukrainians have invaded Belgorod exactly as this piece describes will you believe it then?

[BeaverFever]

Just now, Nationalist said:

No Beave. Please quit being so...brick-ish.

So you will continue to selectively pick and choose reported reality and switch your MSM conspiracy on and off as is convenient to support your preformed belief of Russia good, Ukraine bad. 
 

Gotcha

[Boges]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Some "users" on this site behave more like automated bots, that actual people.

You won't get rational responses from a bot.

Could say the same about you. 

[Boges]

18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

As expected you dodged the question. Answer the question:
 

So if Russia suddenly starts claiming Ukrainians have invaded Belgorod exactly as this piece describes will you believe it then?

Remember all the occupied regions wanted the Russians there. . . And then the people of Kherson celebrate in the streets when the Russians leave. 

[DogOnPorch]

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

They don’t have thousands of scuds ready to use in occupied areas of Ukraine. Their forces there are firing what they have available  

 

Why would there be a vast conspiracy all the way back in July to falsely report something so obscure and specific to the public as s300s being fired at ground targets?  Quit being such a nutjob 

 

The S-300 isn't in active service with the Russians, that's why...nutjob. And if they're going to pull them out of reserve storage due to "lack of ballistic missiles", they're going to haul out the Scuds first...which are actual surface to surface ballistic missiles. But you have your pro-Nazi agenda to support...so keep blaming Russia for the Nazi's mistakes. I expect nothing less from you.

[DogOnPorch]

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

False. Stop lying. 

 

McKenzie Intelligence Services is quite real. And they're very pro-war and very pro-NATO...and pro-Nazi it would appear. Just like yourself.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

As expected you dodged the question. Answer the question:
 

So if Russia suddenly starts claiming Ukrainians have invaded Belgorod exactly as this piece describes will you believe it then?

The Ukrainians are not gonna invade Russia, Beave. Get realistic.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Remember all the occupied regions wanted the Russians there. . . And then the people of Kherson celebrate in the streets when the Russians leave. 

Remember how Putin had Kherson evacuated? All or most of the ethnic Russians left.