Infidel Dog Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, athos said: US is ruled by Khazarian globalists. Stop being so gutless. There are no Khazarians any more. If you mean Jews, say Jews. Have the guts to let your bigot, flag fly. Then tell us again how the Ukrainians are all Nazis. We could use a laugh. Edited October 3, 2022 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 5:38 PM, sharkman said: He already said what he’s going to do. He’s calling up 300,000 more soldiers. He initially had 180,000 I believe so this is quite an increase. So what does the other side do? They blow up the Nord Stream pipelines, both of them. Germany will freeze this winter, what do you think of that? More than a Special Military Operation right? Fighting-Age Russians are fleeing the country if they can. This "300,000" will be nothing more than scared conscripts or people set free from prison. Ukraine has a professional Army. These Conscripts are being sent like lambs to the slaughter. All the while Ukraine is gobbling up the territory that Putin fake annexed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 The prospect of Nukes has being the topic of interest. Does Putin use Nukes to destroy cities or try to damage Ukraine's fighting force. If he uses it to destroy cities, he's a terrorist, plain and simple. If he uses it to weaken Ukraine, he'll do it on what he defines "Russian territory". And for all we know, the Fall-out will blow into Russia. Nukes are only really practical as a tool of complete destruction. How does the ROtW see a leader that shows himself to be the type that will flatten a city and all that live there because he's losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 So much winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 For modern thermonuclear weapons, a ground burst generally isn't anticipated. Rather, they are to be detonated a certain distance above the target in order to... 1. Maximize the Mach Stem effect re: the shock-wave. 2. Prevent the fireball from touching the ground creating all the nasty radioactive fallout. 3. Reduce the effects of uneven terrain. You cook better from above... There's still plenty of nasty radiation from a big air-burst. But it is the ionizing sort that dissipates almost instantly. You know...after it has frapped pretty much every living cell in one's body. The multi-megaton super bombs of the mid-20th century are a rare bird these days...only Red China still keeps a few on the rack. City busters...bunker busters...that sort of utility. Most are well under 1 megaton. Tactical weapons are of the size used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many smaller warheads all overlapping their shock-waves proved in testing to be much more destructive than one big explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: For modern thermonuclear weapons, a ground burst generally isn't anticipated. Rather, they are to be detonated a certain distance above the target in order to... 1. Maximize the Mach Stem effect re: the shock-wave. 2. Prevent the fireball from touching the ground creating all the nasty radioactive fallout. 3. Reduce the effects of uneven terrain. You cook better from above... There's still plenty of nasty radiation from a big air-burst. But it is the ionizing sort that dissipates almost instantly. You know...after it has frapped pretty much every living cell in one's body. The multi-megaton super bombs of the mid-20th century are a rare bird these days...only Red China still keeps a few on the rack. City busters...bunker busters...that sort of utility. Most are well under 1 megaton. Tactical weapons are of the size used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many smaller warheads all overlapping their shock-waves proved in testing to be much more destructive than one big explosion. Thanks Mr. Oppenheimer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Thanks Mr. Oppenheimer. Some posts mentioned 'fallout'. Unless there's a targeting error, there's likely to be little of the Castle Bravo style radioactive pollution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Some posts mentioned 'fallout'. Unless there's a targeting error, there's likely to be little of the Castle Bravo style radioactive pollution. Is the type of grooming you've been consuming to defend use of tactical nukes by Russia when/if it happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Is the type of grooming you've been consuming to defend use of tactical nukes by Russia when/if it happens? You don't appear to know the effects of these toys you play with...hint: away from your face. We haven't been this close to midnight for quite some time. You can pretend the ICBMs will all fail if it makes you feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: You don't appear to know the effects of these toys you play with...hint: away from your face. We haven't been this close to midnight for quite some time. You can pretend the ICBMs will all fail if it makes you feel better. Neville Chamberlain would be proud. It's cute talking peace when Putin is getting his ass handed to him by this fake-state "full of Nazis". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Neville Chamberlain would be proud. It's cute talking peace when Putin is getting his ass handed to him by this fake-state "full of Nazis". That is what you're being told, certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: That is what you're being told, certainly. Well the fact that nukes are even on the table is an indication this Special Military Operation isn't going to plan. What's the time table for taking Kyiv? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Well the fact that nukes are even on the table is an indication this Special Military Operation isn't going to plan. What's the time table for taking Kyiv? I'm not following the details of this war like you fellows are. I just hear buzz about nuclear weapons. Those I know a bit about. From my point of view, this is a civil war in the former USSR. You want to make it WW3? Be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: I'm not following the details of this war like you fellows are. I just hear buzz about nuclear weapons. Those I know a bit about. From my point of view, this is a civil war in the former USSR. You want to make it WW3? Be careful what you wish for. Are you new to the idea of a Proxy War? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Are you new to the idea of a Proxy War? The Viet-Nam war killed millions. Who started that conflict? There's a tricky one...was it the Commies sending troops down the Trail? Or was it the US looking for an excuse...any excuse...to exercise its role as top arbiter on planet Earth? Big mystery. Perhaps we'll be able to muse about Ukraine in the same fashion providing you're nowhere near the button. Eh? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: The Viet-Nam war killed millions. Who started that conflict? There's a tricky one...was it the Commies sending troops down the Trail? Or was it the US looking for an excuse...any excuse...to exercise its role as top arbiter on planet Earth? Big mystery. Perhaps we'll be able to muse about Ukraine in the same fashion providing you're nowhere near the button. Eh? 🙂 You'll note, no matter how bad things got for the Americans in Korea or Vietnam or for the Russians in Afghanistan neither resorted to Nukes. Putin lost this war before it started. Even if the West didn't assist Ukraine with weapons, this would have been a protracted Guerilla conflict. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: You'll note, no matter how bad things got for the Americans in Korea or Vietnam or for the Russians in Afghanistan neither resorted to Nukes. Putin lost this war before it started. Even if the West didn't assist Ukraine with weapons, this would have been a protracted Guerilla conflict. I think we're missing the point of the war in Canada. Well...why would we get it? Even those of Ukrainian or Russian heritage are generally many generations removed from the Old Country. An Old Country that everybody scrambled to leave BACK THEN. This conflict goes back to the Middle Ages if you know a bit of history. Why get involved in Europe's problems? Sort of defeats coming to North America. No? You're all set to fix bayonets. Right, soldier? So they've got some normally sane folks like you all worked-up WW1 style over this one. Chamberlain for all his...lol...bad press...did have places like the Somme, Ypres and Verdun on his mind when he made his deal with the Devil. Churchill had Gallipoli-like adventurism behind him and luckily, he was up for one more good one re: Their Finest Hour. The media and government both pushing for war...well, that can't be good. And not just war...get used to the thought of nuclear war. Like one can survive it...perhaps under one's desk. What will be the fallout...there's that word...if and when it is discovered just who blew up that pipeline comes to light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The Viet-Nam war killed millions. Who started that conflict? There's a tricky one...was it the Commies sending troops down the Trail? Or was it the US looking for an excuse...any excuse...to exercise its role as top arbiter on planet Earth? Big mystery. Perhaps we'll be able to muse about Ukraine in the same fashion providing you're nowhere near the button. Eh? 🙂 The US never sent troops into North Vietnam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: The US never sent troops into North Vietnam. They did conduct a bombing campaign that was pretty much unrestricted at times. The 'Big Belly' SEA version of the B-52D carried 102 750 lbs bombs that could tear a swath through a jungle or a Hanoi neighborhood...depending. Conversely, Route Pack 6 as it was called was the most dangerous piece of sky ever. F-105s in particular suffered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: They did conduct a bombing campaign that was pretty much unrestricted at times. The 'Big Belly' SEA version of the B-52D carried 102 750 lbs bombs that could tear a swath through a jungle or a Hanoi neighborhood...depending. Conversely, Route Pack 6 as it was called was the most dangerous piece of sky ever. F-105s in particular suffered. Yes, they did bomb extensively, kind of like Russia is doing to Ukraine but they never crossed the border, unlike what Russia has done in Ukraine. The North invaded the South, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Yes, they did bomb extensively, kind of like Russia is doing to Ukraine but they never crossed the border, unlike what Russia has done in Ukraine. The North invaded the South, not the other way around. Well aware of who invade who. The Communists started the war. No matter that Uncle Ho was actually an OSS asset during WW2. The first units came down in the late 1950s to assist the PLA (Viet-Cong) cadres forming in South Viet-Nam. US advisors arrived about the same time...with their brand new helicopters. The years before 1965 and full commitment were really Wild West. Nobody yet guessed how deep they'd be getting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Well aware of who invade who. The Communists started the war. No matter that Uncle Ho was actually an OSS asset during WW2. The first units came down in the late 1950s to assist the PLA (Viet-Cong) cadres forming in South Viet-Nam. US advisors arrived about the same time...with their brand new helicopters. The years before 1965 and full commitment were really Wild West. Nobody yet guessed how deep they'd be getting... And the Russians thought they'd be greeted as liberators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Boges said: And the Russians thought they'd be greeted as liberators. A sore point in that area as the Ukrainians did welcome the Germans as liberators if you recall your WW2 history. Babi Yar and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 US special forces did of course enter North Viet-Nam at times to rescue both downed air crew and make attempts to free POWs. The Son Tay raid of 1970 being the most famous, I suppose. BOTH sides saw fit to use Laos and Cambodia as a free fire zone pretty much the entire war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: US special forces did of course enter North Viet-Nam at times to rescue both downed air crew and make attempts to free POWs. The Son Tay raid of 1970 being the most famous, I suppose. BOTH sides saw fit to use Laos and Cambodia as a free fire zone pretty much the entire war. I think the point is that previous Proxy Wars would have led smart people in Russia to concede that annexing a country the size of Ukraine is a pointless and costly exercise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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