War In Ukraine

[Contrarian]

Russian forces have launched fresh strikes on targets in Kyiv and the city of Zaporizhzhya, the military and officials said on October 27, as Ukrainian forces repelled attacks near two towns in the eastern region of Donbas.

Kyiv regional Governor Oleksiy Kuleba wrote on Telegram that rescue workers were at the site of the strike in the capital, but did not disclose the location.

Source:

https://www.rferl.org

Edited October 27, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

No its a regular bomb, but instead of scattering nails and shrapnel in the blast its scatters fine radioactive material such as waste from a nuclear power plant over an area.  Once contaminated, the area can be very hard to decontaminate (see: Chernobyl).   Sure if you happen to be sitting near the explosive when it goes off you would die whether it’s dirty bomb or not. And if you wanted to camp out in the contaminated area afterwards you’d come down with some sort of radiation sickness or something but it’s not a WMD. The “dirty” part doesn’t  kill people just the “bomb” part, as it always does. 

The above said, a real dirty bomb has never actually been used anywhere in the world and many have argued that  in practice it would not be much of a threat at all as in real life it would either contaminate a very small area that would be easy to contain or it would simply disperse too widely and not contaminate much of anything    
 

But perhaps we will see.  My guess is that if there is any dirty bomb plot at all, the Russians are planning to contaminate the area surrounding the Zaporizhzhya power plant to take Europe’s largest nuclear power plant permanently offline in a way that doesn’t result in a nuclear meltdown  

 

Gee...isn't that reassuring. 

Peace negotiations now. Before Europe is treated to more bombs like this...innocent little dirty bomb.

[sharkman]

Two days ago Russia submitted  a resolution at the UN regarding a violation of the Biological Weapons Convention.  Personally I find it strange that the UN would bother to go through the motions of an investigation on this.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3703558-russia-calls-for-un-security-council-probe-of-alleged-biological-labs-in-ukraine/amp/

”The resolution would create a 15-member commission authorized by the Security Council to investigate the claims, the outlet reported.

The Associated Press reported that the commission would report to the Security Council by Nov. 30 and establish a review conference in Geneva, Switzerland from Nov. 28 through Dec. 16.”

[Contrarian]

Recent Key Takeaways

• Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to reject Ukrainian sovereignty in a way that is fundamentally incompatible with serious negotiations.
  -> This is the full video of Putin at a so called think tank in Russia. 
  
  via Sky News (British TV):
   

 

• A senior Russian official threatened that Russia could target Western commercial satellites supporting Ukraine.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast and along the Kreminna-Lysychansk line.
• Russian forces are continuing to make defensive preparations along the east bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted limited ground assaults in Kherson Oblast.
• Russian forces continued to conduct ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
• Yevgeny Prigozhin‘s Wagner Group may be further developing its air warfare capabilities and fielding more complex equipment on par with the conventional Russian military.
• Russian and occupation administration officials began seizing residents’ cell phones in Russian-occupied territories to support law enforcement and operational security measures.
• The U.S. and its allies slammed Russia on Thursday for wasting the time of the United Nations Security Council and spreading conspiracies by again raising its accusation that the U.S. has "military biological programs" in Ukraine. "How much more of this nonsense do we have to endure?" Britain's UN ambassador Barbara Woodward asked the council.
   

Source: ISW
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-27         

Edited October 28, 2022 by Contrarian

[athos]

Russia intends to use a military base in Cuba
in response to NATO nuclear exercises in Romania

 

 

[Contrarian]

4 hours ago, athos said:

Russia intends to use a military base in Cuba
in response to NATO nuclear exercises in Romania

 

 

This is some deep fake experiment. 

Where is Russia going to get the money to go to Cuba from? Yesterday Putin kept repeating that the main goal was always Donbas 😂 lowering his exceptions and here you are talking science fiction about a base in Cuba.  

Edited October 28, 2022 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

Latest via ISW: 

• Russian force generation efforts combined with Western sanctions are having long-term damaging effects on the Russian economy, as ISW has previously forecasted.
• Russian President Vladimir Putin’s calls for a competitive Russian military industry are divorced from the reality of Russian supply chain and defense industrial base issues.
• Russian officials announced that occupation authorities began integrating the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) into Russian jurisdiction.
• Russian and Belarusian officials continue to perpetuate the long-standing information operation that Belarus will enter the war in Ukraine on behalf of Russia, but Belarus’ entry into the war remains highly unlikely, as ISW has previously assessed.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued to conduct counteroffensive operations in the directions of Svatove and Kreminna, and Russian forces conducted offensive operations to constrain Ukrainian forces.
• Russian forces continued defensive operations along the Dnipro River while Ukrainian forces continued their interdiction campaign.
• Russian forces continued to conduct ground assaults near Bakhmut and Donetsk City.
• Russian forces continued mobilization efforts and advertising for volunteer battalions while struggling with low morale.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-2

Edited November 3, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

On 10/28/2022 at 3:01 AM, Contrarian said:

Recent Key Takeaways

• Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to reject Ukrainian sovereignty in a way that is fundamentally incompatible with serious negotiations.
  -> This is the full video of Putin at a so called think tank in Russia. 
  
  via Sky News (British TV):
   

 

• A senior Russian official threatened that Russia could target Western commercial satellites supporting Ukraine.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast and along the Kreminna-Lysychansk line.
• Russian forces are continuing to make defensive preparations along the east bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted limited ground assaults in Kherson Oblast.
• Russian forces continued to conduct ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
• Yevgeny Prigozhin‘s Wagner Group may be further developing its air warfare capabilities and fielding more complex equipment on par with the conventional Russian military.
• Russian and occupation administration officials began seizing residents’ cell phones in Russian-occupied territories to support law enforcement and operational security measures.
• The U.S. and its allies slammed Russia on Thursday for wasting the time of the United Nations Security Council and spreading conspiracies by again raising its accusation that the U.S. has "military biological programs" in Ukraine. "How much more of this nonsense do we have to endure?" Britain's UN ambassador Barbara Woodward asked the council.
   

Source: ISW
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-27         

Why not just do the investigation?

I mean...the US has nothing to hide...right?

[Nationalist]

On 10/28/2022 at 9:33 AM, Contrarian said:

This is some deep fake experiment. 

Where is Russia going to get the money to go to Cuba from? Yesterday Putin kept repeating that the main goal was always Donbas 😂 lowering his exceptions and here you are talking science fiction about a base in Cuba.  

What makes you think Russia can't afford a base in Cuba?

 

[Contrarian]

Biden teaching Zelenskyy some politics:

U.S. privately asks Ukraine to show it’s open to negotiate with Russia

The encouragement is aimed not at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but ensuring it maintains a moral high ground in the eyes of its international backers.

Wash. Post

[Nationalist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/05/ukraine-russia-peace-negotiations/

Faking a desire for peace. How nice.

[Luz P.]

Maybe look at a different perspective, not the one western MSM is madly pushing…

 “Most of the world, including Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America, is carefully watching Russia systematically destroy what was by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world (the Ukrainian army, that is), understanding full well that what is unfolding is Washington’s Waterloo. Some countries (Saudi Arabia, for instance) are so sure of the result that they are already refusing to obey Washington’s dictates. This is a problem, because all the Washingtonians know how to do is impose their will on the world. Treating others as equals or looking for opportunities to negotiate a win-win is simply not part of their core competence—or any of their competence, for that matter. Once defanged, all they know how to do is bark and drool.”

 

https://thesaker.is/the-new-cuban-missile-crisis-that-isnt/

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, Luz P. said:

Maybe look at a different perspective, not the one western MSM is madly pushing…

 “Most of the world, including Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America, is carefully watching Russia systematically destroy what was by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world (the Ukrainian army, that is), understanding full well that what is unfolding is Washington’s Waterloo. Some countries (Saudi Arabia, for instance) are so sure of the result that they are already refusing to obey Washington’s dictates. This is a problem, because all the Washingtonians know how to do is impose their will on the world. Treating others as equals or looking for opportunities to negotiate a win-win is simply not part of their core competence—or any of their competence, for that matter. Once defanged, all they know how to do is bark and drool.”

 

https://thesaker.is/the-new-cuban-missile-crisis-that-isnt/

If you want to complain about western MSM, don't peddle a Russian blogger as a reasonable alternative.

Here's a middle-eastern perspective:  

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/7/wagner-group-founder-admits-to-us-election-interference

Here's a SE Asian perspective:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2432002/buried-phones-bribes-and-paranoia-life-under-russian-occupation

 

Meanwhile your silly blog cite refers to "Washington's Waterloo" as Russia army faceplants itself into Ukraine, loses tens of thousands of soldiers, fires a half dozen of its generals in failure, all while accomplishing basically nothing since February. 

Maybe perspective is your problem.  😄 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/7/2022 at 11:42 AM, Luz P. said:

Maybe look at a different perspective, not the one western MSM is madly pushing…

 “Most of the world, including Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America, is carefully watching Russia systematically destroy what was by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world (the Ukrainian army, that is), understanding full well that what is unfolding is Washington’s Waterloo. Some countries (Saudi Arabia, for instance) are so sure of the result that they are already refusing to obey Washington’s dictates. This is a problem, because all the Washingtonians know how to do is impose their will on the world. Treating others as equals or looking for opportunities to negotiate a win-win is simply not part of their core competence—or any of their competence, for that matter. Once defanged, all they know how to do is bark and drool.”

 

https://thesaker.is/the-new-cuban-missile-crisis-that-isnt/

In what alternative reality was Ukraine “by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world” and in what alternative reality is it being “systematically destroyed” by the Russians who have been in retreat for months now and losing soldiers and equipment at levels not seen since WW2?

Edited November 11, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Contrarian]

Recent Video GoPro Footage of the International Legion fighting on behalf of Ukraine: 

Recent Key Takeaways: 

• Ukrainian forces are completing the liberation of the western (right) bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast.
• Ukrainian troops have made major territorial gains throughout Kherson Oblast on November 11 and will continue consolidating control of the western bank in the coming days.
• Russian milbloggers criticized the Russian MoD’s statements about the Russian withdrawal to the left bank but generally took a more muted attitude to Ukrainian gains.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations towards Kreminna and Svatove, Luhansk Oblast, and Ukrainian forces targeted Russian logistics in rear Luhansk Oblast.
• Russian forces continued ground assaults around Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Vuhledar.
• Ukrainian forces continued to target Russian force concentrations in Zaporizhia Oblast.
• Wagner Group financer Yevgeny Prigozhin continued to form parallel military structures in Belgorod and Kursk oblasts, even though there is no threat of a Ukrainian ground invasion into Russian territory.
• The Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) subpar conduct of partial mobilization continues to generate social tension.
• Ukrainian partisans continued to target Russian occupation authorities.
  
  https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-11

Edited November 12, 2022 by Contrarian

[Luz P.]

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

In what alternative reality was Ukraine “by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world” and in what alternative reality is it being “systematically destroyed” by the Russians who have been in retreat for months now and losing soldiers and equipment at levels not seen since WW2?

I gather you’re unaware that without NATO’s intervention, Ukraine would have lost the war, probably by early March. And it’s only the USA’s “generosity” that keeps them fighting. You've got to give it to Zelensky though, he’s mastered the art of extending a hand and asking for more money and weapons… to the tune of what?  65+B?  With zero accountability, which works well for him, considering Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Maybe stop relying so much on western propaganda.  How many months now we’ve been told Russia is losing?  They may be losing, but so is the rest of the world, at least economically. Europe’s stubbornness in teaching Putin a lesson is ridiculous, shouldn’t those “leaders” care about their own instead of preaching something they hardly practice?

 

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Luz P. said:

I gather you’re unaware that without NATO’s intervention, Ukraine would have lost the war, probably by early March. And it’s only the USA’s “generosity” that keeps them fighting. You've got to give it to Zelensky though, he’s mastered the art of extending a hand and asking for more money and weapons… to the tune of what?  65+B?  With zero accountability, which works well for him, considering Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Maybe stop relying so much on western propaganda.  How many months now we’ve been told Russia is losing?  They may be losing, but so is the rest of the world, at least economically. Europe’s stubbornness in teaching Putin a lesson is ridiculous, shouldn’t those “leaders” care about their own instead of preaching something they hardly practice?

 

 

 

 

Learn how today!

[BeaverFever]

3 minutes ago, Luz P. said:

 

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

In what alternative reality was Ukraine “by far the largest and most capable NATO-equipped, NATO-commanded army in the world” and in what alternative reality is it being “systematically destroyed” by the Russians who have been in retreat for months now and losing soldiers and equipment at levels not seen since WW2?

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I gather you’re unaware that without NATO’s intervention, Ukraine would have lost the war, probably by early March. And it’s only the USA’s “generosity” that keeps them fighting. You've got to give it to Zelensky though, he’s mastered the art of extending a hand and asking for more money and weapons… to the tune of what?  65+B? 

 

I’m well aware but none of those facts support your false claims. 
 

4 minutes ago, Luz P. said:

considering Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

I have no doubt there is more corruption in Ukraine than in weather countries, but your comment seems like an exaggerated overstatement 

[BeaverFever]

14 minutes ago, Luz P. said:

Maybe stop relying so much on western propaganda.  How many months now we’ve been told Russia is losing?  They may be losing, but so is the rest of the world, at least economically. Europe’s stubbornness in teaching Putin a lesson is ridiculous, shouldn’t those “leaders” care about their own instead of preaching something they hardly practice?

Maybe stop relying so much on anti-western propaganda.  Putin can’t be allowed to invade and conquer Ukraine at will. People tried making the same arguments as you when Hitler invaded his neighbours also. History has proven those people wrong and Putin’s invasion of Ukraine to forcibly unite people of similar ethnicity and for the glory of mother Russia is no different 

[DogOnPorch]

Yeah...start listening to our propaganda, instead.

[BeaverFever]

12 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Learn how today!

How dare he get invaded!

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

How dare he get invaded!

 

Be sure to hand over all your warm clothing to Herr Trudeau. Perhaps buy a few of his junk War Bonds while you're at it.

Edited November 12, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[BeaverFever]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Be sure to hand over all your warm clothing to Herr Trudeau. Perhaps buy a few of his junk War Bonds while you're at it.

Once again you’re confused and failing to learn lessons recently taught to you on the other thread  

Russia is the invading army that is away from its own country and supply base , not Ukraine. So you keep getting it backwards.  Also I have it on good authority that Ukrainians are accustomed to Ukrainian winters. 

[DogOnPorch]

15 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Also I have it on good authority that Ukrainians are accustomed to Ukrainian winters. 

 

So are Canadians. Are you going to sleep outside tonight? No?

Didn't think so.

[BeaverFever]

20 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

So are Canadians. Are you going to sleep outside tonight? No?

Didn't think so.

When  I was in the Army Reserve I slept outdoors in Algonquin Park in February and I would gladly do it again had to defend my country try your beloved Russian invaders   It’s something soldiers train for and something your poorly trained and poorly equipped conscripts won’t be able to hack  

 

Please explain why you keep thinking that a harsh Ukrainian winter gives then invading Russians the advantage.  Weather usually provides an advantage to the Home Team