Trucker's Convoy

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, BubberMiley said:

Really? He repeatedly said he would never lift restrictions? Gotta cite for that? 

Come on man... don't expect blood from a stone.  She simply believes we are in permanent lockdown until the sun expands and envelopes the earth...

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

They should replace children's desks with restaurant tables so the kids can at least sit unmasked.

I watched the Emergency Debate last night (which will be continued today) and it was super depressing.

Trudeau has zero intentions of ever lifting any restrictions and it is not even going to be discussed by him. He said it over and over again.  The opposition kept pointing out that other countries are opening up with less vaccination and that Tam even said it was time to regroup, but nope.  He will not even consider.

End.

The health restrictions should not be lifted or determined by politicians or radical right wing Trumpster mobs.  They must be lifted when the health authorities say it is safe to do so.

[West]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 I have heard that many people including children were basically locked in a windowless room for ten days at a time.  

Should've come out and jumped on the bouncy castles.

I actually feel bad for the kids of the perpetually afraid. Unfortunately I think these people have done irreparable damage to the emotional development of their children.

Can you believe our government is actually putting out commercial telling kids to shun and bully their friends over a vaccine? 

Edited February 8, 2022 by West

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The health restrictions should not be lifted or determined by politicians or radical right wing Trumpster mobs.  They must be lifted when the health authorities say it is safe to do so.

it's the far left politicians who refuse to lift the restrictions

based on political calculations that have nothing to do with science

it has always been safe to lift them, and all the experts going by the actual data have said that for a while

[Zeitgeist]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The health restrictions should not be lifted or determined by politicians or radical right wing Trumpster mobs.  They must be lifted when the health authorities say it is safe to do so.

Dr. Tam is waiting for the international go ahead from the WHO.  Prior Liberal PM’s understood the importance of sovereignty and making decisions that are right for Canada in its current context. Our context of a highly vaccinated population with falling hospitalizations is similar to Denmark’s.  Denmark has dropped mandates and restrictions.  I admire the Danes.  I remember the story of how the King wore the Star of David in solidarity with the Jews during the Holocaust.  Courageous. Canada has courage in its history too.  We need to remember this.  Lest we forget.  

Edited February 8, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[blackbird]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Dr. Tam is waiting for the international go ahead from the WHO.  Prior Liberal PM’s understood the importance of sovereignty and making decisions that are right for Canada in its current context. Our context of a highly vaccinated population with falling hospitalizations is similar to Denmark’s.  Denmark has dropped mandates and restrictions.  I admire the Danes.  I remember the story of how the King wore the Star of David in solidarity with the Jews during the Holocaust.  Courageous. Canada has courage in its history too.  We need to remember this.  Lest we forget.  

Denmark is a tiny country with a small population of about 5.9 million.  The UK dropped restrictions too but the UK has badly managed the pandemic.  They had one of the highest death rates in the world.  So they are not a good example to follow.  Boris Johnson held parties while everyone else was locked down and is now under pressure to resign.

[Goddess]

28 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Really? He repeatedly said he would never lift restrictions? Gotta cite for that? 

If he continually refuses to discuss lifting any restrictions and refuses to create any kind of plan for it and refuses to consider what other countries are doing and refuses to even listen to Tam who says it's time to regroup.....

Does that seem to you like he has any intentions of ever lifting any restrictions?

It sounds to me like he is refusing.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Just what does it do if not stop Covid?

It prevents most people who are infected from getting seriously ill and dying.

It's not 100% protection but it gets you closer to it.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You added a quote on the bottom that I did not post.  That is dishonest.

Not dishonest at all. I didn't "add a quote", I just put quotations marks around one word, and I stated as much below. 

[eyeball]

36 minutes ago, West said:

Can you believe our government is actually putting out commercial telling kids to shun and bully their friends over a vaccine? 

That's impossible to believe.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It prevents most people who are infected from getting seriously ill and dying.

It's not 100% protection but it gets you closer to it.

 

No it doesn't.

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I would rather have Castro himself telling me to get vaccinated than have you tell me to accept getting Covid.

everyone is going to get covid

including the vaccinated

no amount government restrictions or mandates will prevent you from getting it

learn to cope in a non-totalitarian way

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

everyone is going to get covid

including the vaccinated

no amount government restrictions will prevent you from getting it

 

And if it has 'gain of function' so to speak...when is it set to turn 'on'?

If I was a Bond villain looking to make 3 billion deaths look like an accident. This would be it.

[CITIZEN_2015]

The so called Freedom convoy protesters threaten or intimidate everyone opposing them. There has been many reports and complains of assaults, intimidation, threats by this group of protesters funded and organized by questionable sources.

The latest being:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357

An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

Edited February 8, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

And if it has 'gain of function' so to speak...when is it set to turn 'on'?

If I was a Bond villain looking to make 3 billion deaths look like an accident. This would be it.

Yeah but why all the bother to make it look like an accident?  Just release the murder hornets and have some fun with it.

[Yzermandius19]

8 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The so called Freedom convoy protesters threaten or intimidate everyone opposing them. There has been many reports and complains of assaults, intimidation, threats by this group of protesters funded and organized by questionable sources.

The latest being:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357

An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

funny how you only care about threats and intimidation to those who oppose them from Truckers

but love when the government does it to those who oppose them

Marcuse's repressive tolerance

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[CITIZEN_2015]

11 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

funny how you only care about threats and intimidation to those who oppose them from Truckers

but love when the government does it to those who oppose them

Marcuse's repressive tolerance

funny the way you exaggerate by making totally false statements. Government threatened anyone to death or issues death threats to anyone opposing their mandates?. It is a democratically elected government elected on mandates platform and trying to implement what they promised in their election platform only 6 months ago. Shame on those who threaten the innocent public including seniors, journalists and a 21 year old girl with death threats. They must be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

Edited February 8, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[DogOnPorch]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah but why all the bother to make it look like an accident?  Just release the murder hornets and have some fun with it.

 

Killer bees!

[sharkman]

51 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

And if it has 'gain of function' so to speak...when is it set to turn 'on'?

If I was a Bond villain looking to make 3 billion deaths look like an accident. This would be it.

You know, in certain ways the latest Bond movie was quite enlightening…

[Yzermandius19]

8 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

funny the way you exaggerate by making totally false statements. Government threatened anyone to death or issues death threats to anyone opposing their mandates?. It is a democratically elected government elected on mandates platform and trying to implement what they promised in their election platform only 6 months ago. Shame on those who threaten the innocent public including seniors, journalists and a 21 year old girl with death threats. They must be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

if it happened

the media is trying to smear the Truckers

and you believe every negative thing you hear about them

meanwhile you give the government and media the benefit of the doubt at every turn

and they have not earned it

the Truckers have done far less damage to people than the government

yet you only cry foul when the Truckers do it

obvious partisan hack is obvious

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, sharkman said:

You know, in certain ways the latest Bond movie was quite enlightening…

 

I've yet to bother....but I trust your opinion on many things. How so?

Truckers...

Viva Frei has a good stream going.

 

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

funny the way you exaggerate by making totally false statements. Government threatened anyone to death or issues death threats to anyone opposing their mandates?. It is a democratically elected government elected on mandates platform and trying to implement what they promised in their election platform only 6 months ago. Shame on those who threaten the innocent public including seniors and a 21 year old girl with death threats. They must be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

Less crime in affected Ottawa district since blockade began: Report | Toronto Sun

Crime is down.

Where is the state of emergency?

Honk.

Honk.

[BubberMiley]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

If he continually refuses to discuss lifting any restrictions and refuses to create any kind of plan for it and refuses to consider what other countries are doing and refuses to even listen to Tam who says it's time to regroup.....

Does that seem to you like he has any intentions of ever lifting any restrictions?

It sounds to me like he is refusing.

So he didn't say it at all then. That's what I figured.

[Goddess]

Just now, BubberMiley said:

So he didn't say it at all then. That's what I figured.

Refusing to answer, refusing to discuss.

That's his answer.

[Boges]

Not all that popular actually. 

https://www.cp24.com/news/almost-2-3rds-of-canadians-oppose-trucker-convoy-protest-poll-suggests-1.5772347

Quote

 

OTTAWA - Almost two-thirds of Canadians oppose the Ottawa protest against COVID-19 measures, with more than four in 10 saying they strongly consider the demonstration a selfish display, a new poll suggests.

But almost 30 per cent of Canadians surveyed by Leger disagreed with that characterization of the demonstration against COVID-19 measures that has seen hundreds of large trucks create gridlock and incessant noise in the national capital.

In addition, 44 per cent of those polled said they sympathized with the frustrations being voiced by the protesters.