America under President Trump

[DogOnPorch]

12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Just says how pathetic the choices are for Dems. They are scrambling to get anyone, please. But there is no answer. They simply played the wrong game, trying to attack his character, then countering it by looking for people with impeccable character. What fools. The Trump supporters don't care about his (obvious) character flaws, the world has serious problems to solve and no time for empty liberal platitudes. Liberalism has steered us too far in the wrong direction and the ship risks going over the edge. Only a fool thinks you can keep going, and come back again.

 

Like with the Rebs in South Park, the Democrats are only fired-up when they've got themselves a belly full of S'mores Schnapps...that is...Trump...and a good witch burning.

When faced with actual questions of plans and such for the economy...well....zzzzzzzzzzz...that's boring!

Back to Trump bashing...

Edited February 16, 2020 by DogOnPorch

[OftenWrong]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

When faced with actual questions of plans and such for the economy...well....zzzzzzzzzzz...that's boring!

Back to Trump bashing...

Their front runner is an 90 year old marxist who just had a heart attack and is shouting "Revolution!" into the microphone. All while promising free pie from the sky. Yeah, this is going to inspire mass voter turnout. </s>

[DogOnPorch]

16 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Their front runner is an 90 year old marxist who just had a heart attack and is shouting "Revolution!" into the microphone. All while promising free pie from the sky. Yeah, this is going to inspire mass voter turnout. </s>

 

Whenever I see Bernie, this starts playing in my head...

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

Leftists. 

Do you mean your garden variety leftists in pajamas and packing AK47's or something more extreme and radical?

[Yzermandius19]

19 hours ago, eyeball said:

Do you mean your garden variety leftists in pajamas and packing AK47's or something more extreme and radical?

More leftists have Trump Derangement Syndrome than leftists that don't.

[Iceni warrior]

When any criticism is denounced as derangement a little bit of democracy dies.

[Rue]

Derangement syndrome is something all politicians carry. It's just in Don Trump's case he can spread it through a  pathogen called Trump zombies.

 

[taxme]

On 2/12/2020 at 4:35 PM, Shady said:

Complete nonsense.  Just do a tittle search and anyone can see how many properties Trump owns.  He’s got his own plane, you think somebody poor would have their own plane?  Nobody ever questioned if Trump is wealthy, the only thing in question was how wealthy.  Which is irrelevant.  

Regardless, he’s never said he’s s devout Christian.  I don’t think anyone believes that he is.  It’s irrelevant.  So is whether he thinks he’s smart.  It’s about issues and policy. 

I think that most Canadians are just jealous of Trump and what he owns. They do not like their own feminist PM and so they do love to enjoy knocking Trump down all the time. Most have no idea and do not know anything about Trump except what they get to read and hear from the fake and lying American and Canadian alt-left MSM.  Michael Avenatti was once the darling of the phony left wing media and thought that he would be the one to take on President Trump in the next election and defeat him. Now their hero is going to jail for extortion. Now the media is suddenly all quiet about him. Typical of the MSM in America, they are a bunch of foolish azz holes who know nothing except how to spread bull. Anyway, Trump would have kicked his azz if he had of tried to run for President. Trump is the man, man. America is a lot better off today rather than it was under Obama. 

Hey, Trump just yesterday attended the Daytona 500 and was greeted well by the hundreds of thousands of car racing fans at the Daytona track. Trump gave a great speech once again. Contrast that to our dear feminist leader who is lucky if he can get enough people to put on the head of a needle at one of his not so important speaking events. Lol. 

[eyeball]

16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

More leftists have Trump Derangement Syndrome than leftists that don't.

In any case TDS is like a mild headache compared to the pandemic brain-wasting disease Left Derangement Syndrome (LDS) causes.

[Yzermandius19]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

In any case TDS is like a mild headache compared to the pandemic brain-wasting disease Left Derangement Syndrome (LDS) causes.

Not at all. The lefties are far more deranged about Trump than righties who are deranged by lefties, by several orders of magnitude.

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

12 hours ago, Iceni warrior said:

When any criticism is denounced as derangement a little bit of democracy dies.

No one is doing that. You just pretend that is happening so when anyone defends Trump you can write them off as just a Trump fan boy so nothing they say will cause you to examine the holes in your critiques. Then you double down on your worst critiques, endlessly parroting obvious Anti-Trump propaganda as if it's some kind of mic drop.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Not at all. The lefties are far more deranged about Trump than righties who are deranged by lefties, by several orders of magnitude.

How do you know, have you had a brain scan recently?

[Yzermandius19]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

How do you know, have you had a brain scan recently?

It's a simple observation. The left are the one's flipping out and empowering the person they claim to hate, when the right flips out they are much less counter-productive than the TDS left. The media being non-stop TDS leftists is plain as day, and they are far more rabid than any Trump supporter I've ever met.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Iceni warrior]

10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

No one is doing that. You just pretend that is happening so when anyone defends Trump you can write them off as just a Trump fan boy so nothing they say will cause you to examine the holes in your critiques. Then you double down on your worst critiques, endlessly parroting obvious Anti-Trump propaganda as if it's some kind of mic drop.

Nah, it's just a convenient way of ignoring criticism.

Why defend Trump when you can just accuse his detractors of having a mental illness?

It's nothing but a lazy cliche with no real meaning.

 

 

[Queenmandy85]

Everyone seems to be missing an important point. What do the American voters want? From perusing a couple of American political forums, it appears a large segment are worried about gun rights and immigration. Since the voter is always right, it would be wise for a politician to listen to what voters actually want and address their concerns rather than telling them what they should think.

[Yzermandius19]

19 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Nah, it's just a convenient way of ignoring criticism.

Why defend Trump when you can just accuse his detractors of having a mental illness?

It's nothing but a lazy cliche with no real meaning.

Except I don't use it that way. I give the reasons for it being TDS and a terrible criticism, I don't just ignore it, I tear it to shreds and then sprinkle on a little TDS sauce. So your theory is just you projecting your own laziness on me.

[Iceni warrior]

On 2/17/2020 at 12:44 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

More leftists have Trump Derangement Syndrome than leftists that don't.

Yeah right, there's that reasoned debate.

[Rue]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Everyone seems to be missing an important point. What do the American voters want? From perusing a couple of American political forums, it appears a large segment are worried about gun rights and immigration. Since the voter is always right, it would be wise for a politician to listen to what voters actually want and address their concerns rather than telling them what they should think.

If you want to get elected  in the US than yes what Trump does, fear monger such issues and present immigrants or illegals as a mortal threat in need of shooting with guns and a President who claims he will deport them all, did work last election. The question is do we expect more from politicians then getting elected by fear mongering? Is that the best we can do fear people and appear to people's fear of others? 

https://highexistence.com/12-psychological-tactics-donald-trump-uses-to-manipulate-the-masses/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trump-and-the-politics-of-fear/498116/

I find Trump simply to be  a retread of Mussolini: source: http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald Trump Benito Mussolini Parallels Fascists.htm

"According to the 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts who authored The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, he is like Hitler, Mussolini and other leaders with cultish followers in important respects: (1) Trump craves attention and has a "mirror-hungry" leader personality; (2) his followers perceive Trump as a superhuman who is above the law and the need for morality or even common decency; (3) his followers blindly believe Trump's wild assertion, however untrue; (4) his followers blindly comply with Trump's directives for action; (5) his followers provide Trump with unqualified emotional support (he can "feel the love" when he's surrounded by his base). "

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, Rue said:

....I clearly have a bias against fear mongering. I saw it used to cultivate and fuel over 3,000 years of hatred against my ethnic group and culminate in a holocaust. Fear mongering to me, scapegoating someone to use as a common source of hatred to unify people around you is an old story.

 

Not your choice in the United States...we like fear mongering.   From 1964....

 

 

[SkyHigh]

On 2/12/2020 at 7:35 PM, Shady said:

anyone can see how many properties Trump owns

Here's a little econ lesson for you.

There's a difference between assets(what we have) and liabilities(what we owe), here's a real world example

I just bought a duplex for a little over 600k, and took out a 250k loan to renovate(converting the duplex to one place) therfore i owe almost a million on a property that's only worth 650k. 

Trumps daddy bought him some places in the 80s that he still has, he has never ran a successful business(multiple bankruptcies, lawsuits, etc..) other then playing a business man on a scripted tv show. Again he has never offered evidence of his actual financial situation.

As for the rest if you don't think being a proven lier both personally and professionally is not an issue, keep supporting a man that thinks windmills give you cancer, thinks there were airports during the revolutionary war and isn't even lucid enough to know where his own father eas born

 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

...Trumps daddy bought him some places in the 80s that he still has, he has never ran a successful business(multiple bankruptcies, lawsuits, etc..) other then playing a business man on a scripted tv show. Again he has never offered evidence of his actual financial situation.

 

Patently false...Time Magazine enumerated Trump's business successes and failures in 2015.

https://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/

[SkyHigh]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Patently false...Time Magazine enumerated Trump's business successes and failures in 2015.

https://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/

Didn't even need to go further then the first paragraph, where your link says "disputed" fortune, which was exactly my point or do you need your own lesson on the difference between assets and liabilities.

I did continue reading though and after listing his many failures(he bankrupted a casino, a casino) they got to his "successes" witch were mostly buildings bought in the 80s and 90s, again exactly what i said, the one example in the 2000s was most likely during the period when he was just licensing his name(when it meant something) to other developers.

His only discernable skill is shameless self promotion, and there's no doubt he is a master self promoter

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, SkyHigh said:

...I did continue reading though and after listing his many failures(he bankrupted a casino, a casino) they got to his "successes" witch were mostly buildings bought in the 80s and 90s, again exactly what i said, the one example in the 2000s was most likely during the period when he was just licensing his name(when it meant something) to other developers.

 

So Trump did have several business successes, and you can't prove otherwise.

Time Magazine is only one source...where are yours ?

[Shady]

27 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Here's a little econ lesson for you.

There's a difference between assets(what we have) and liabilities(what we owe), here's a real world example

I just bought a duplex for a little over 600k, and took out a 250k loan to renovate(converting the duplex to one place) therfore i owe almost a million on a property that's only worth 650k. 

Trumps daddy bought him some places in the 80s that he still has, he has never ran a successful business(multiple bankruptcies, lawsuits, etc..) other then playing a business man on a scripted tv show. Again he has never offered evidence of his actual financial situation.

As for the rest if you don't think being a proven lier both personally and professionally is not an issue, keep supporting a man that thinks windmills give you cancer, thinks there were airports during the revolutionary war and isn't even lucid enough to know where his own father eas born

 

So what?  Like I've said, the IRS gets his tax returns every year.  Besides, if what you say is true, and he's been proven a liar personally and professionally, what's the issue?

[Shady]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

If you want to get elected  in the US than yes what Trump does, fear monger such issues and present immigrants or illegals as a mortal threat in need of shooting with guns and a President who claims he will deport them all, did work last election. The question is do we expect more from politicians then getting elected by fear mongering? Is that the best we can do fear people and appear to people's fear of others? 

 

Every president fear mongers.  I remember Obama insisting that Republicans want old people and poor people to starve and die.  Regardless, ask Kate Steinle if illegal's are a mortal issue.  Oh right, you can't, because she's dead.