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  1. Though the Bible "teaches" to love thy neighbor and to try and walk your path as Christ would, we will of course agree that one of Christianities core tenants in that we are all sinners, right? The idea of a death bed confession is of course ludacris , you can't do terrible things then right before death say you love Jesus and, bang! You're saved. Now because we are all born to sin, therefore will sin , it isn't works based. The only way to be forgiven for sin (which the Bible teaches we all do) is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour. Period. Works means each individual action in this life is directly related to your "next life" . In Christianity you're "permitted" (I know that's not the best word, but you understand) to do "sinful" things as long as you ask forgiveness, and the only person you can ask forgiveness from is an itinerant, messianic, apocalyptic 1st century preacher, with little to no outside corroboration,and that my friend requires Faith.
  2. You're not living up to 1st Peter 3:15 are you now? But like the saying goes, for most religious zealots "there's no worse hate than Cristian love" Though the fact you think Christianity is a works based religion, just makes the irony and cognitive dissonance even funnier.
  3. John 14:6 I am the truth the way and the light, no comes to the father except through me. We could go back and forth for days, I'm not interested. I think it's all a plagiarized fairy tale. My point was if you affirm your interpretation is the only interpretation you are explicitly claiming to have the truth of what God ment therefore you're saying you know the mind of God
  4. Are you presuming you know the mind of God?
  5. Apologies if you think I'm being purposely obtrusive, but I don't think you care about truth. I believe you've made up your mind based on the few sources that agree with what you already believed, and honestly question your cognitive capabilities. Either way I'm not interested in continuing discourse with you. Take care
  6. I think you'd be surprised. I had the opportunity to grow up in foster care so I saw many different family units. Two in particular I think are relevant. The first devoted Catholics (I was an alter server and had my feet washed), the second a fundamentalist Baptist (I taught Sunday school for the little ones) Two very different views of scripture, yet both the best possible versions of what a Cristian is supposed/called to be. It makes me laugh thinking they would have hated each other. Anyway I've read and studied the Bible with many theologians and continue to do so. You seem to focus only on the teachings of the Catholic Church. A closed mind can never be open to the true word of God
  7. And see there lies the problem, that's your understanding. Not only are there thousands of different denominations of Christianity , but the person on the pew next to you has their own interpretation, to the point you accuse each other of perversion , heresy and not being true Christians. No all loving, all knowing, all powerful God, would let those who have accepted Jesus as their lord and saviour fight and kill over semantics. You may be right, but claiming it only applies to your God is the definition of special pleading. Just trying to explain it to you, you accused me of committing a logical fallacy without explaining how, then I literally made you commit one to illustrate.
  8. And that is special pleading. Giving different (or special) attributes to one thing and not others
  9. Ok you're obviously not actually trying to respond to what I'm writing and maybe not even reading it in good faith, you're more interested it spouting your retoric. I am not interested in those types of conversations. I hope you have a great night 😁 I asked you a question If everything is created who created god?
  10. I'm not going to do a Bible study with you, but the fact that you can interpret the "word of God" ,in so many different ways on its own, proves a tri Omni god can't exist
  11. I'd be interested to have you expand on where my reasoning was faulty. That's not what special pleading is. The best way to explain it to would be by asking you a question, so here goes (please answer). If everything is created who created god? We'll get back to that. The development of empathy was just an example of the evolution we've gone through as a species and totally irrelevant to atheism. In fact atheism has nothing to say about morality. Furthermore the concept of rules and laws existed in societies well before Abrahamic religions, as well as during and then continuously throughout history Nothing you're saying is specific to your version of God, nor is it specific to your moral system
  12. Now you're being dishonest. I have never said you were wrong in believing what you believe, nor have I said I'm not open to the possibility that you're right. In fact I spoke about being home schooled with creationist material, I told you previously about my knowledge of the Bible and past as a believer My whole point was and is you don't even know what evolution says so how can you say it's false. Go on Amazon buy a used textbook from an accredited institute of higher education first year biology and try to understand what the other side is actually saying.
  13. Continuing to use the term Darwinism makes me believe you're not trying to have a good faith argument. No need to respond directly to this, the truth of my statement will be reflected in your verbiage going forward. Back to the topic, could God not have created the earth to evolve as science suggests? I'm speaking solely on the idea of evolution by natural selection. I am not speaking about how life began or the big bang. Just evolution
  14. These are all things that I lack the knowledge to refute, and you don't even understand, so I'm not going to waste my time or yours debating them. I will remind you that my views happen to align with virtually every expert, in every relevant field. Though I'd bet that if you googled each of them, they all have a recognized professional that could explain every one of them.
  15. This again proves my point, you not only don't read the literature by professionals you deny they even exist. I'm not sure you understand science as a whole or how it expresses to help us understand what's going on around us. You seem to think science is against religion. It is not. Science just can not add god into the equation until it can measured in repeatable way. In fact science makes no claims about any God at all. I have researched your side , I grew up listening to Kent Hovind and the like, I've read so many of the apologetics on the subject and I've actually read the Bible not just the parts pastors like to cherry pick from the pulpit. You on the other hand, not only do you refuse to read the material written by qualified biologists, paleontologists, anthropologists, etc., who studied years specifically related to evolution, you actually try and say there's no such things as an "evolution scientist" Serious question, could you help me understand why you think evolution goes against your God? I'm much more interested in that than us debating an issue we're both ignorant on, if you don't mind I'd love having a discussion on that.
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