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Note to Westerners: I know that this is very difficult for many of you to understand - you're clueless, can't speak French - the reason we still have a federal Liberal as PM, it is Donald Trump. Americans voted for Trump. Trump defends America! ====== Carney worked for banks in New York, he speaks French, he has a foreign wife We in the East vote for a guy like Carney. Carney defends modern Canada!2 points
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Like I've said many times. If Canada is just so f*cking awful, you live within walking distance of the US border. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, traitor.2 points
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Many westerners are understandably connected to being Canadian. That's understandable. We can call ourselves "Western Canada" as our new country name. Just cut the ties to Ottawa is all we are asking.2 points
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Bottom line . . . . "The buffalo are gone, they're not coming back . . . get over it" Early treaties were needed at the time. Time changes everything, and now there's generations that have never worked and don't have any concept of what it takes to be respossible for yourself and family. A limiting factor to the vibrant society Canada could be are old treaties.2 points
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Yes. Cut them off. Make them understand that they are in the boat WITH us. Not on a different boat. I know it sounds "mean" but...how do parents teach a baby to sleep through the night? By letting the baby cry itself to sleep for a few nights.2 points
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I'm not a dishonest man in the middle. Why do you want draw lines? Wealth distribution should be amongst your own citizens and not to other countries so one can look good to the UN.2 points
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Here... https://www.dictionary.com/browse/respect And https://www.dictionary.com/browse/honour I don't know if you have kids but, evidently you're not familiar with these words and their importance. That's too bad. Its these 2 qualities...Plus some pride...that forces my kids to want to achieve their goals on their own. I admit I'm a bit surprised by this development but, I'm darn proud of 'em for being independent. Something else you probably won't have an opportunity to experience.2 points
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Imagine being so bad at your job that you are rescuing other democracies around the world from a similar fate?2 points
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Ge·sta·po [ɡəˈstäpō] definition the German secret police under Nazi rule. It ruthlessly suppressed opposition to the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe, and sent Jewish people and others to concentration camps. From 1936 it was headed by Heinrich Himmler. "Last month, Clay Jackson was at a gas station near his home in Dallas when an attendant asked if he could offer up some legal advice to an immigrant family in the neighborhood. A father was caught up in an Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid, and the mixed-status family with a U.S. citizen child wasn’t sure what to do next. Jackson agreed to give them informal pro bono support in his personal capacity, not as an in-house lawyer for Fidelity National Financial, a multi-billion dollar Fortune 500 title insurance company. “My goal was to try to find somebody just to be a conduit for them, to alleviate their immediate concerns and fear, give them just some basic understanding of what this is and how this may play out, and then try to find them with a good lawyer,” he told The Independent. Then two people he says appeared to be federal law enforcement agents visited Jackson himself. Two plain-clothed agents appeared at his home and accused Jackson of obstructing an investigation, he said. Jackson talked to formerWashington Post columnist Radley Balko about the people he believed were ICE agents arriving at his door. That article, which did not mention where Jackson worked, was published April 23. That same day, Jackson was fired. The incident follows a series of actions from Donald Trump’s administration targeting individual lawyers and firms that provided work for his perceived political enemies. Jackson fears ICE’s threats and his abrupt termination could send a “chilling” effect preventing lawyers from pro bono work or even informal advice." A Texas lawyer gave advice to an immigrant family caught up in an ICE raid. Agents visited him, and then he was fired1 point
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People are familiar with the common construct of “the third world.” They are also familiar with the idea of “the first world.” What’s interesting is the idea of how one becomes the other - thus "the second world". It is not what most people presume - some interstitial state betwixt the third and first worlds, a sort of adolescence one grows through. The difference between the third world and the first world is not actually wealth or development, it’s systems and cultural practices. “The third world” is the base state of humanity, not some aberrant outcome. It’s the norm, a thing that must be escaped by building the structures that allow for human flourishing. When you introduce ideas of scientific rationalism, modern communication and transportation systems, sound property rights, markets (including for capital), and ideas of golden rule, you get a phase change and a meteoric rise to wealth. The fragile idea of "doing unto others as one would have done onto them" in turn that underpins the civilizations capable of supporting sufficient amounts of the free market capitalism that has been the only force to ever lift meaningful numbers of people out of grinding poverty. it’s really the sort of system where you either achieve it or if you don’t, you're locked in a sort of low orbit, low overall development cycle that does not and cannot lift all boats to anything like a first world. It is only by first becoming high trust people that these sorts of structures may find foundation. If a society of low trust people adopts rules designed for high trust societies, it simply fails. None of the systems can function or establish themselves. The second world is not a transitional stage - it's a form of post achievement decline, a once lush garden gone to weeds. The second world is a trap and a truly nasty one from which extrication once caught is very difficult because the second world is, in many ways, the worst of all worlds, it’s first world systems that have fallen into hands and practices under which they cannot function. Low trust people in a low trust system are the third world. If they develop into high trust people, they get the ability to adopt high trust systems and when they do, voila! first world. But if once they have those systems in place, they revert to being low trust people, the second world awaits. I think this is where we are headed. The third world has a number of advantages: Labor tends to be plentiful, cheap. Populations tend to be young. Things like land and construction food and services are inexpensive. There are not a lot of systems or regulation in place. You can “just do things” and it’s easy to build and hire and engage in small scale entrepreneurial activity. The problem is that it’s difficult to scale because the rights and trust systems are not there to support it. The first world also has many advantages: Labor tends to be highly productive and able to use large amounts of capital to be even more so. It comes with lots of rights protection and strong ability to scale because of this and the high trust nature of interactions. It’s safe and predictable. you can have far flung, high function supply and production chains, rich and flourishing. But this enables many things that are in opposition to it - things like widespread welfare, regulatory, and taxation systems. Populations get old. It’s harder to “just do things” and the flourishing increasingly needs advanced technologies, complex chains of interdependence that are great when they run and highly resilient if left alone, but can fail if meddled with sufficiently or if they fall into disrepair or incompetent hands. The rights that make a first world society worth inhabiting become vulnerabilities if consciously abu$ed. The systems of technology that elevate life become boat anchors in the hands of those unable to operate or sustain them. The insidious aspect of the full scope second world is the manner in which it starts to infect and grow within the first world. It’s gradual at first, but accelerates rapidly and you can see it as simple institutions erode and functionality dies. Infrastructure decays and degrades. It starts to feel like you are living in the ruins of a civilization. And once you land here, it's really hard to get out. This is the problem with “the second world”. It’s the worst of all worlds. You have the high cost, high regulation structures of the first world but without the knowhow or labor productivity to support it. In the third world, you’d just “go do things” and fix the grid. Here, the regulatory structures don’t allow it and, because the labor is expensive, no one can afford it anyhow once fortunes start to decline. Life can be pleasant if you have money, but the island is sinking. You can feel the service levels and functionality dropping year by year. You can't escape noticing that this is a system run by folks who cannot seem to manage it and the "deckchairs on the titanic" vibe grows day by day. Some enter the second world by subtraction, but others do so by addition. Power and other utility grids and infrastructure like roads are obvious markers. So are crumbling neighborhoods and neighborhood safety. The ever expanding homeless tent cities and human detritus littering sidewalks and doorways is another second world phenomenon. In the first world, people sh00ting up and passing out in the doorway of your high-end home in a nice neighborhood, get rousted and perhaps arrested by a high functioning police force. In the third world, they get tossed by private security and private actors. Each is a functional system. But in the second world they get treated like precious Faberge eggs, afforded infinite rights and prerogative, ignored by police, and untouchable by homeowners. In the second world, the rights of the anti-social become vectors of societal abu$e. Behavior drops to terrible low equilibriums and the first world rules defend it and first world conflict avoidance makes handling it oneself..... impossible. It has the protections that make sense for sensible, respectful high trust people, but people who are none of those things wind up wielding them like hammers. It can go pretty bad, pretty fast. It has this weird ability to just creep, day by day into normalcy. And no one seems to know how to fix it. That “not knowing” is a sure sign of second world status. The very people you’d think would most want it fixed, wind up being the ones who line up to stop you. There is a basic high trust morality, one where you have a “leave a penny take a penny” system or where places like Costco can have a reputation for “accepting any return for any reason” because they pride themselves on top notch, zero friction customer service. Then some group starts stealing pennies and returning 12 year old stuff as brand new, and the systems choke. People do it on purpose. And it breaks everything. This is why you cannot just drop such low trust, non-golden rule people into high trust, golden rule societies and expect to lift them up. They have no interest in being lifted. They just see easy pickins and go picking. They think you are stupid for letting them and lose respect for you and your ways. After all, why respect a culture full of id10ts who are so easy to take advantage of? It becomes the second world way of life. The second world is a siege, a hostage scenario, a way of life under attack and abuse. The systems are not all crumbling by accident, they are being pulled down by people who prey on it. You can't leave a bike unlocked and go into a store in a place like this and have no fear of theft. You can't have all the easy, pleasant systems of a high trust first world life. And it takes very few to see the rules, game the rules, and break the system, and pretty soon, you stand in the ruins of your civilization while cheap legalism and manipulation exact expensive prices for everyone. In the second world, you get “Stop or I'll say stop again” protestations that bad people find hilarious, because they know they can use your rights structure against you, but you cannot use it in self defense. Bad people can really take good people for a ride. And that which is a nuisance at small scale, rapidly grows until the toxin becomes systemic. All your safety nets get wrapped around your neck and drowns you. This is not seagulls eating french fries left unattended. This is seagulls learning to use the taxpayer’s uber eats account to order from McDonald's to get more fries delivered and no one having any idea how to stop the process and getting called racist and anti-immigrant if they do. In the second world, defrauding the system is the cottage industry. They share plans with one another until the sophistication is incredible. The high trust first world lacks the third world immune system to attack this. Systems stress. Systems break. Systems fail. The second world is the worst of all worlds: Expensive, aged, restrictive, and unable to adapt while being robbed of the productivity and flourishing that made it so attractive. it’s an inversion of ethics through incomprehension and inattention and simpleminded plunder of complex systems that prove too regimented and unpermissive to allow adaptation. It’s a self digging pit until you wake up and realize that not everyone wants what you want, not everyone wants to be like you, and that when you mix third world mores into first world systems, nothing gets raised up. It’s just gravel in gears and sugar in gas tanks. The high trust, high function wealthy west is a small place. Left to itself, it’s incredibly resilient internally and against external threats and stressors. It’s been a flourishing first world experiment in human elevation and progress. But it has little in the way of internal immune system and its systems require high trust to be high function. This is not a way of life to be lightly traded away.1 point
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Sorry we have to disagree about this one. This is not a black and white issue. Even if one thinks the general policy of removing alleged illegal migrants is in order, a President and country must respect due process, and respect lawyers that defend the accused. You can't just crush the rights of lawyers who defend these people and just ignore the due processes and procedures that respect human rights. We need to think deeper.1 point
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Yes, sorry. I was rushing this morning and it wouldn't post because I had to find the single instance of the word "id10t" to make it post. 🤣 I also truncated the post. I also just ignore Treebeard posts so I didn't see before. Here's the link https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-second-world?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=323914&post_id=161550153&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1lx25n&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email My apologies.1 point
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LOL I love that you say that while having a meltdown and doing multi thread posts that a child would find cringey LOLOL You go little guy!!! You're doing great! 🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿 Easier to just to throw you out of it and make the place decent again.1 point
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The research says that left wingers have far more mental health problems but gee, you sure wouldn't guess that watching the ones around here would ya! Sure, go ahead if you think it'll make you feel better. It's a little distressing to hear that your mother still rubs your tummy for you even as a teenager but that's your business..... 🍿🍿🍿 [munch munch] 🍿🍿🍿1 point
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Very sobering, thanks for sharing.1 point
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You think Canada spends $11B on gender studies abroad? The figure quoted by @blackbird is that Canada spends $6.3B on foreign aid total. So you may want to re-check your number. But do you think any foreign aid program at all benefits Canada?1 point
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With NFL officials behind him he starts a mindless word salad about Alcatraz of all things and turns to them expecting agreement. Imagine putting people in that spot who have done nothing to offend him. Even worse, this is basically a daily occurrence now. Americans will have four years to rue their choice.1 point
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So as a Trumpy yourself, do you consider this a good thing or a bad thing? This is a fascinating line of attack. Let me get my notebook before you respond....1 point
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Maybe naive. As i said, one never knows unless one tries. Trump seems to feel that provinces like Alberta would be a great thing to become the 51st state. I would much prefer to see the 4 western provinces all get together and separate from Marxist globalist Ottawa and form their own country. This is something i have always dreamed about. I believe that all Westerners could potentially become filthy rich if that were to happen. No more transfer payments to the eastern socialists. All those hundreds of billions of tax dollars going to the east would cease and stay in western Canada. We could go it alone because we pretty much have everything that we need to survive as a country. Something westerners should really think about. Just saying.1 point
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There are a few folks on here that act like this is their diary and are surprised or even offended that anyone would dare challenge them or disagree.1 point
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Where have you been? Trump's lawyers had their offices raided, threats of disbarring them, and threats of prison time all for the crime of giving him legal representation.1 point
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There could be something akin to the European Union where Our federation is split in half and essentially you have a western and Eastern Canadian government but an economic union is in place where people can cross freely to work, there's no tarrifs or the like, etc etc. But the laws and taxes etc are individual to each "country".1 point
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Exactly. They might as well have called it LWR instead. Legalized white-male racism.1 point
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Let's talk about that. Discuss how white conservative males fit into DEI.1 point
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YES! Like a bunch of dopes, we let a small minority of Canadians...act as if they are not Canadians. Regardless of the political party in power at any given time, its been Liberal ideals that allow this dumb-fckery to go on. I see value in the celebration of the native history. But I do not see value in allowing that to supersede the general welfare of Canada. If one lives and makes use of the benefits of Canada, then one better fcking-well be Canadian...or we have a problem. The natives are not the only ones who refuse to assimilate, and like a bunch of sopping wet noodles...we let them. Stupid us. @Canada - Grow a spine for Gawd's sake! Our nation suffers BECAUSE you try to accommodate every little minority. But the simple truth is...you can't. Its obvious. History shows that very clearly. Multi-culturalism CAUSES social friction. Eliminate the bloody friction! Build a nation...not a fcking playground.1 point
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Is that why the much poorer farmers in the Maritimes send hay to Alberta during droughts? Globe and Mail "Aug 18, 2021 — Maritime farmers ship hay to ranchers out west as months of extreme heat and little rain has left crops withering in fields across the west..." What did Alberta do for Nova Scotia after Hurricane Juan which was followed shortly by White Juan? Nothing. https://www.cbc.ca › news ›Feb 8, 2014 — "White Juan damage funding comes 10 years later - On Friday, Nova Scotia MP and Justice Minister Peter MacKay announced the province will receive $3.6 million under the Disaster Financial." Of course that was a Conservative gov't so you couldn't expect too much... You're either a liar or you know nothing, or possibly both.1 point
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This was the talking point 2 weeks ago. You really need to actually pay attention and keep up.1 point
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He's too busy throwing gasoline around to fiddle.1 point
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I don’t understand the point of this thread. Canadian conservatism isn’t MAGA, which is a specific brand of American populism that’s not even especially Republican. Trump’s movement may have some momentum left in it, but it lacks vision because it’s so blatantly centred around greed. Other countries know it and America is losing hearts and minds. Canada’s conservatism is mostly about creating opportunity and lowering home and energy costs. It’s not anti-free trade.1 point
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LMAO! No doubt Trump is as ignorant about what First Nations will have to say about this as any other chud or Albertan who thinks Alberta might be separating or joining the US anytime soon. Between natives, King Charles, the Supreme Court, other provinces and ordinary Albertans and Canadians Smith doesn't stand a chance. Let's hope after Smith's attempt to push the issue of separation falls spectacularly flat on its face it will cause Quebec to pause and reconsider the feasibility of its separation. It should certainly underscore how poorly thought out the whole idea is. As time passes I'm becoming more encouraged by how effectively the right wing is hoisting itself on its own petards and souring public perceptions about the conservative brand in general. You can feel people collectively stepping on the brakes and see it happening in other elections in places where incumbent "lefties" are hanging onto power. Australia being the latest.1 point
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psychotic emperor phase No shit Sherlock! Glad at least one American awake enough to notice. Walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist, acts like a fascist dictator, how dare I call him a fascist? Duh!1 point
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Not without a vote from all of the other states. The recipe for constitutional change is fairly significant and not dissimilar to Canada's where you need a percentage of the states to say yes to any proposed change He has looked at some interesting legal options, for example the law doesn't say you can't serve for a third term it only says you cannot run for a third term So what were to happen if for example vance were to run with trump as his running mate for vice president? That would seem to be perfectly legal. Then if that's were elected he could resign and step aside and trump would become president again. That would appear to still be legal under the terms of the law which says he cannot run, not that he cannot serve To be honest it's extremely far-fetched.But there are a few possible loopholes around the law because of how it's written I think the public support would have to be absolutely overwhelming for him to pull it off, and it is not currently absolutely overwhelming at all1 point
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Canadians could save hundreds of billions of their tax dollars being blown by the Marxist globalists in Ottawa every year if we could get rid of foreign aid, multiculturalism/diversity programs/DEI/bilingualism and bringing in millions of 3rd world immigrants and refugees into Canada every year that need to be given our tax dollars to help support them while they are here. Cut the bureaucracy in half for starters would save billions of tax dollars. The savings to our medical and social services would be massive. All Canada needs is for our politicians find the will to do something about all those things i mentioned above. But under lieberalism, it ain't ever going to happen, pardner. Lieberals just love to blow taxpayers tax dollars. 😒1 point
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This message will go over most Canadians heads....it won't soak in until after Alberta is gone....and the ROC starts their own divorce....1 point
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They make good products, for both their navy and army, they even produce the the T-50 jet trainer but i think the navy said they are very interested in the Type 212 CD....who knows now what the liberals will pick for a sub....that being said the french are also pushing there Nuk design Saffron.....which is most likely the only nuk sub with a short build time....Uk/ US are having issues , or working on the next gen sub... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212CD_submarine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_T-50_Golden_Eagle You should take a look at the new destroyer,and guess what it costs....currently we could get almost 6 plus of them for the same price as our frigates, extremely short building times, including American weapon systems. with advanced Korean systems... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sejong_the_Great-class_destroyer or the next generation which is more expensive , and relys less on American weapons' systems... https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/02/the-next-phase-of-south-koreas-kddx-destroyer-program/ On the army side....i think Germany has that all sown up, with the Leopard, german MRLS, PH-2000, TWO kinds of IFV vehs...and all the air defense we need...Sweden also has top notch IFV, and the world best in class wheel arty...1 point
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I saw his attempt to debate. He's a vegetable. That's the difference between deluded clowns like you, and functional humans with working brains. Normal people can take in inconvenient or unpleasant information and deal with it, rather than needing to distort reality around themselves to continue living in fantasy. Enjoy the next 4 years of Liberal government, LOL. 🤡1 point
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Meh...did it though? The lion share of the shrinkage was reduced government spending and increased imports ahead of anticipated tariffs. If you exclude government spending, the increased exports, increased investments and stronger job growth indicates that the economy was doing great.1 point
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Elbows Up. The lie of the election. The carney is in business with Trump's son-in-law. Trump now has exactly what he wanted from Canada. Malleable leadership. Elbows Up. LOL...suckers.1 point