WestCanMan Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Those two just aren't achievers. All they do is virtue signal and f everything up royally. Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, and they cling to every anti-Trump anti-Poilievre story that comes along like drowning men clutching at straws. Who on God's green earth would look out their window and think to themselves "Another term of Biden/Trudeau is just what the doctor ordered"? These leftards do nothing but spew lies, exaggerate, omit, cheer on FBI crimes, and their campaign slogans are platitudes like "If Trump wins it's the end of democracy!" On average, these guys are 4 yr olds at best. I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? We really need to take the warning labels off of everything. This is what we get for trying to defy Darwinism. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Those two just aren't achievers. All they do is virtue signal and f everything up royally. Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, and they cling to every anti-Trump anti-Poilievre story that comes along like drowning men clutching at straws. Who on God's green earth would look out their window and think to themselves "Another term of Biden/Trudeau is just what the doctor ordered"? These leftards do nothing but spew lies, exaggerate, omit, cheer on FBI crimes, and their campaign slogans are platitudes like "If Trump wins it's the end of democracy!" On average, these guys are 4 yr olds at best. I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? We really need to take the warning labels off of everything. This is what we get for trying to defy Darwinism. I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Neither Trudeau nor Biden are 'left'. They're centrist proponents of neoliberalism. Furthermore, both have achieved a lot of nobel goals, successes and so on... as did Trump, Poilievre, Harper, Martin, Chretien and so on... The only acceptable binary is that binary thinking is deeply flawed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Neither Trudeau nor Biden are 'left'. They're centrist proponents of neoliberalism. Furthermore, both have achieved a lot of nobel goals, successes and so on... as did Trump, Poilievre, Harper, Martin, Chretien and so on... The only acceptable binary is that binary thinking is deeply flawed... Trudeau is socially leftist. And a corrupt neoliberal sure, his party usually does what their masters want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Those two just aren't achievers. All they do is virtue signal and f everything up royally. Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, and they cling to every anti-Trump anti-Poilievre story that comes along like drowning men clutching at straws. Who on God's green earth would look out their window and think to themselves "Another term of Biden/Trudeau is just what the doctor ordered"? These leftards do nothing but spew lies, exaggerate, omit, cheer on FBI crimes, and their campaign slogans are platitudes like "If Trump wins it's the end of democracy!" On average, these guys are 4 yr olds at best. I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? We really need to take the warning labels off of everything. This is what we get for trying to defy Darwinism. Pull your head out of Trump's ass. Biden's economy is better. He's not just raised, but multiplied, our standing in the international community. His infrastructure and manufacturing legislation is ambitious and dramatic. His China policy is actually effective, not like something a third grader drew up in a napkin. You can whine and moan about inflation--inflation has been high--but wages and disposable income are still net positive, so the pain is largely psychological. Americans are better of in almost any measurable category than they were even under Trump's best days, but to mention the night and day difference from the dumpster fire Trump left for Biden after the disastrous Covid mismanagement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, Hodad said: Pull your head out of Trump's ass. Biden's economy is better. He's not just raised, but multiplied, our standing in the international community. His infrastructure and manufacturing legislation is ambitious and dramatic. His China policy is actually effective, not like something a third grader drew up in a napkin. You can whine and moan about inflation--inflation has been high--but wages and disposable income are still net positive, so the pain is largely psychological. Americans are better of in almost any measurable category than they were even under Trump's best days, but to mention the night and day difference from the dumpster fire Trump left for Biden after the disastrous Covid mismanagement. Even after being told many times how and why Trump sabotaged the US COVID response, nothing ever sinks into the WCM mind. Cognitive dissonance at its WORST. He just continues to believe everything he hears on FOS LIES despite them being LIARS proven to the tune of $800M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Neither Trudeau nor Biden are 'left'. They're centrist proponents of neoliberalism. Furthermore, both have achieved a lot of nobel goals, successes and so on... as did Trump, Poilievre, Harper, Martin, Chretien and so on... The only acceptable binary is that binary thinking is deeply flawed... They are far left. LOL - no wonder you consider yourself to be a conservative - in your mind apperently everyone right of castro is a conservative 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 The Economy Brought NATO to fully support Ukraine Continually funded Ukraine and provided strategic military leadership. Lead six nations in bombing Houthi rebels. Supports Israel against Hamas, while working tirelessly with other Arab nations to negotiate a peaceful outcome Huge alternative energy funding program. America output of greenhouse gases dropped substantially in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Neither Trudeau nor Biden are 'left'. They're centrist proponents of neoliberalism. Furthermore, both have achieved a lot of nobel goals, successes and so on... as did Trump, Poilievre, Harper, Martin, Chretien and so on... The only acceptable binary is that binary thinking is deeply flawed... Oh...deny deny deny. Tell ya what Mike. When I see you flirt with the truth of this virtue-signalling mess...then maybe you'll deserve some modicum of respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 8 hours ago, Hodad said: Pull your head out of Trump's ass. Biden's economy is better. He's not just raised, but multiplied, our standing in the international community. His infrastructure and manufacturing legislation is ambitious and dramatic. His China policy is actually effective, not like something a third grader drew up in a napkin. You can whine and moan about inflation--inflation has been high--but wages and disposable income are still net positive, so the pain is largely psychological. Americans are better of in almost any measurable category than they were even under Trump's best days, but to mention the night and day difference from the dumpster fire Trump left for Biden after the disastrous Covid mismanagement. Err... no. https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-setting-the-record-straight-on-bidenomics Biden has been a complete and total failure. Not one thing he's done, has resulted in any benefit to the population. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Rebound said: The Economy Brought NATO to fully support Ukraine Continually funded Ukraine and provided strategic military leadership. Lead six nations in bombing Houthi rebels. Supports Israel against Hamas, while working tirelessly with other Arab nations to negotiate a peaceful outcome Huge alternative energy funding program. America output of greenhouse gases dropped substantially in 2023 Ok let's examine this. A. The economy sucks and the public knows it. Check the polls. B & C. The USA just announced the funding is coming to a screeching halt. They're cutting Ukraine loose. This was always inevitable to those who rely on reality for positions, rather that feelings and lies. D. Big deal. They bombed a mosquito. E. Hamas made its bed. Now they can die in it. Again...big deal. F. While shitting on the very base of the global economy resulting in wild inflation everywhere. Way t' go Brandon! G. Again...causing huge inflation. Not to mention that to this day, nobody can prove there's any crisis worthy of this crap. Your welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 12 hours ago, WestCanMan said: There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Those two just aren't achievers. All they do is virtue signal and f everything up royally. Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, and they cling to every anti-Trump anti-Poilievre story that comes along like drowning men clutching at straws. Who on God's green earth would look out their window and think to themselves "Another term of Biden/Trudeau is just what the doctor ordered"? These leftards do nothing but spew lies, exaggerate, omit, cheer on FBI crimes, and their campaign slogans are platitudes like "If Trump wins it's the end of democracy!" On average, these guys are 4 yr olds at best. I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? We really need to take the warning labels off of everything. This is what we get for trying to defy Darwinism. How can you expect anything less from a group of human-like creatures that have done everything but literally climb up Donald Trump's ass? It is a derangement syndrome of the highest order. Edited January 13 by Deluge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Rebound said: The Economy Brought NATO to fully support Ukraine Continually funded Ukraine and provided strategic military leadership. Lead six nations in bombing Houthi rebels. Supports Israel against Hamas, while working tirelessly with other Arab nations to negotiate a peaceful outcome Huge alternative energy funding program. America output of greenhouse gases dropped substantially in 2023 Runs all that interference to divert attention from the invasion on our southern borders. Yup, that old pedophile is one helluva guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 6 hours ago, Rebound said: America output of greenhouse gases dropped substantially in 2023 Wait.. what? I haven't heard that one before. I would like it to be true. Do you have a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Neither Trudeau nor Biden are 'left'. They're centrist proponents of neoliberalism. Furthermore, both have achieved a lot of nobel goals, successes and so on... as did Trump, Poilievre, Harper, Martin, Chretien and so on... The only acceptable binary is that binary thinking is deeply flawed... Such as? Fuel, food, entertainment and everything else have increased significantly whereas wages have remained the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, West said: Such as? Fuel, food, entertainment and everything else have increased significantly whereas wages have remained the same. Who told you ^this? FOS LIES? Wages have exceeded inflation for several months now. LMAO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, West said: Such as? Fuel, food, entertainment and everything else have increased significantly whereas wages have remained the same. Not in America. Wages have out-paced inflation. Haven’t you figured out that you’re being fed lies by a fake news media? The damn inflation figures are posted. Anybody can look them up. But you’re subscribed to “Up means Down, Right means Left” thinking. The figures speak for themselves. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Err... no. https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-setting-the-record-straight-on-bidenomics Biden has been a complete and total failure. Not one thing he's done, has resulted in any benefit to the population. Geez, good thing you checked in with house Republicans rather than economists. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Neither of them aspired to be Trump. 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, The gulf between rich and poor continues to widen. 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? We're not right-wing conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 36 minutes ago, Hodad said: Geez, good thing you checked in with house Republicans rather than economists. 🙄 So can you dispute anything they said? Anything you think is wrong? Anything other than just complaining about the source? No? Nothing? Kay - thanks, bye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 27 minutes ago, West said: Lol.. I can just look at my personal spreadsheet and calculate the percentage spend in relation to wages to know this is a lie. Thank goodness for a Republican house whove brought Democrat spending under control. Apparently you're unaware that Trump's 2020 COVID recovery spending was just as large as Biden's. Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Who told you ^this? FOS LIES? Wages have exceeded inflation for several months now. LMAO The level of inflation increase has diminished whilst the cost of every day necessities is still on the increase, Prices increase at a slower rate but still go up. Your fancy graph only tells a small part of the story. Or better yet, show a Trump supporter this graph. BTW, what are you local hospital visiting hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 36 minutes ago, Legato said: The level of inflation increase has diminished whilst the cost of every day necessities is still on the increase, Prices increase at a slower rate but still go up. Your fancy graph only tells a small part of the story. Or better yet, show a Trump supporter this graph. BTW, what are you local hospital visiting hours. Even better - the current inflation rate is compounded on the previous increases. In other words if a loaf of bread when from 1 dollar to 2 dollars, and now inflation has slowed to 10 percent - that's ten percent on the two dollars, not the one. So you get 2.20 cents for a loaf that cost only 1 dolllar 2 years ago. Meanwhile wage increases are just barely starting - the vast majority of people still have far far far less spending power than they did during trump's term. On top of it interest rates went up - so even with inflation slowing down people are paying more for their homes and cars and lines of credit etc etc. Which puts a huge strain on the economy. People aren't stupid. They look around and they know they have less money than they did in real terms. They realize their quality of life is reducing, and they worry that we'll tip into a recession and things will get really bad. You can't "graph-lie" your way out of that, people can see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 56 minutes ago, CdnFox said: On top of it interest rates went up - so even with inflation slowing down people are paying more for their homes and cars and lines of credit etc etc. Which puts a huge strain on the economy. And Biden and Trudeau did that? Dumb enough to believe they "run" the economy and giving more control to the people that actually do will make things better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Even better - the current inflation rate is compounded on the previous increases. In other words if a loaf of bread when from 1 dollar to 2 dollars, and now inflation has slowed to 10 percent - that's ten percent on the two dollars, not the one. So you get 2.20 cents for a loaf that cost only 1 dolllar 2 years ago. Meanwhile wage increases are just barely starting - the vast majority of people still have far far far less spending power than they did during trump's term. On top of it interest rates went up - so even with inflation slowing down people are paying more for their homes and cars and lines of credit etc etc. Which puts a huge strain on the economy. People aren't stupid. They look around and they know they have less money than they did in real terms. They realize their quality of life is reducing, and they worry that we'll tip into a recession and things will get really bad. You can't "graph-lie" your way out of that, people can see. Exactly. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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