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16 hours ago, eyeball said:

All we've heard from your ridiculous ilk is Nazi this and Commie that when it's come to opposing Trudeau, our government and saving Canada from totalitarianism.

Like it or not, that is the reputation he is getting from the rest of the world.

Booster Nations - by Robert W Malone MD, MS (substack.com)

In Canada, Justin Trudeau is threatening that COVID tyranny will return this fall if 90% booster shot compliance isn’t achieved. In other words, OBEY OR BE LOCKED DOWN…again!  With summer about to close in, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is already threatening  to reinstate more lockdowns, mask mandates, and “vaccine” requirements for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) if not enough Canadians voluntarily line up for the latest “booster” jab. And he expects maximum compliance.

In a statement he provided to the press inside what appeared to be a hospital room, Trudeau argued that Covid is “not done with us yet,” even though the vast majority of the world is done with it. “We might want to be done with it, but it’s still around,” Trudeau stated. “And yes, we have a lot more tools, a lot more understanding, a lot more knowledge on how to keep ourselves and our loved ones safe. But we also know that as winter comes, and as people get pushed back indoors, there is a real risk of another serious wave of covid.” The only solution to that potential “wave,” according to Trudeau, is “to ensure that everyone is up to date on their vaccinations,” otherwise provinces will have to “make decisions about restrictions and mandates.”

“The recommendation is you should be up to date on your vaccinations if you have had a dose within six months,” Trudeau added. “Everyone who has been a while since their vaccinations should look at the fact that we have new vaccines coming out this month that are tailored against Omicron that will provide better protection, and everyone should get out and get vaccinated.”

“If we are able to hit that 80, 85, 90 percent of Canadians up to date in their vaccinations, we’ll have a much better winter with much less need for the kinds of restrictions and rules that were so problematic for everyone over the past years,” he went on to blab.

“But every step of the way, government’s responsibility is to keep people safe, to prevent our health care systems from getting overwhelmed, and that’s where individuals choosing to make sure they’re up to date on their vaccinations with these new vaccines is going to help us all.”

You can watch Trudeau say these crazy things here.

The Freedom Convoy trucker protest is when I really started tuning in to what Justin Trudeau was saying, how he was behaving and the tyrannical decisions he began making. Trudeau has been on an extreme tyranny kick the past few years, and really seems to be enjoying himself and his ability to impose whatever nightmarish scenario he wishes with seemingly minimal pushback from Canadians.

He invoked the Emergencies Act (passed by Parliament way back in 1988) and shut down people’s bank accounts, not just of the truckers but even those who supported and aided the truckers. I would suspect Trudeau is going to be met with resistance from the people if he thinks another round of plandemic theater is justified.  In the video above Trudeau uses a mixture of wild hand gestures, frequent bug eyes, and spastic verbal inflections which show how truly deranged this manchurian candidate with a dictator complex is becoming.

With the booster rollout already unfolding, we can expect the medical tyranny dial to be turned to maximum this fall and winter. Perhaps this booster obsession may finally turn on the light bulb for the masses who have lined up willingly to take the initial 2-3 jabs, that they would come to their senses and say enough is enough—no boosters for me, something is just not right here.

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3 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

criminal cabal lmao.. you really have lost the plot dude.. people like  you are scary and should not be allowed to vote.?

People like you support a government that has broken our highest of laws.

As far as I'm concerned...that makes you an accessory.

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43 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I imagine those three bills to regulate the internet would be reversed under him, as a start. 1. There'd obviously be no vaccine mandates or passports, and no more encouraging of woke cancellation. 2. I believe he's said he wants less government interference in people's lives and less regulation.

1. I wonder how the word woke or something like the phrase no more encouraging of woke cancellation will be treated under his call for plain language laws?

2. Every intelligent being in the universe wants that.

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Mr. Poillievre is banking on the pandemic being under better control by the time the next election occurs, or he will do like Premier Moe is doing by living in denial. The government of Saskatchewan is pretending it does not exist and won't even allow the numbers of people hospitalized or dying to be made public. 

Mr. Poillievre is promoting the cancellation of the carbon tax but ignores the obvious result. The price at the pump will not drop because the oil companies will pocket the difference. Why not? It is their gas and they can sell it for whatever the market will bear. People are used to the current price of gas. They will complain, but they always complain. He doesn't give his alternative. All he says is we will use technology to solve the problem of global warming. Gee, why didn't the government think of that? Why didn't the US government or the rest of the world think of that?

Firing the Governor of the Bank of Canada will not solve infaltion. The Governor's policies are actually working. It has to be a slow process to avoid a deep recession. 

It says something about Mr. Poillievre's focus when he has all these ideas but is not sharing them with the government. If the well being of the people of Canada were his focus, he would not wait until the next election 2 years from now. He would be meeting with the government to get his solutions enacted as soon as possible to bring relief to all those Canadians hanging on by a thread. The longer he waits, the more it is clear that Mr. Poilievre's focus is on his own political fortunes, rather than the good of the country.

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1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Mr. Poillievre is banking on the pandemic being under better control by the time the next election occurs, or he will do like Premier Moe is doing by living in denial. The government of Saskatchewan is pretending it does not exist and won't even allow the numbers of people hospitalized or dying to be made public. 

How could it not be under control?  You're on what....5th shot now?  In a year and half?  Are the jabs not working?  Is that what you're saying?

For Pete's sake, even New Zealand, who imposed some of the harshest restrictions along with Canada, has given it up.

New Zealand ends all restrictions imposed to tackle coronavirus pandemic (msn.com)

The rest of the world has given it up and you're still calling for people to be fired from their careers, the economy to keep going into its death spiral, children (who have zero risk from covid) to have jab after jab after jab, who cares about the science! and be kept from going to school, masking, lockdowns......

Christ on a cracker, get over your abnormal fear.  Continue clutching your "wubbies" - masks and social distancing - if you can't get over it, but for gawd's sake, leave the rest of us alone already.

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39 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Christ on a cracker, get over your abnormal fear.  Continue clutching your "wubbies" - masks and social distancing - if you can't get over it, but for gawd's sake, leave the rest of us alone already.

We are definitely well into a new reality: abnormal, irrational fear is first fanned out of all plausible proportions, then used as a valid reason for serious restrictions imposed on all citizens. All of that without any meaningful accountability, oversight and channels to challenge voluntaristic decisions. This is a solid ground for authoritarianism and totalitarianism and with increasingly dependent population, it's a matter of when not if.

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2 minutes ago, myata said:

This is a solid ground for authoritarianism and totalitarianism and with increasingly dependent population, it's a matter of when not if.

Especially when you have a sizeable chunk of the population who is anti-science, such as QueenMandy. 

I don't know whether it's because he doesn't understand science, or is paralyzed by irrational fear or just doesn't care.....but definitely anti-science. 

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

-Insults
-Tying my opinion to support of Trudeau - who I have repeatedly said I DON'T support

He's big on keeping restrictions, mandates and threatening to lock Canada down again soon. He spends like a drunken sailor and is totally out of touch with the reality of life as an average Canadian.

Polliviere not so much.

I think, based on your comments, that you would vote Trudeau - not because you support him personally, but because you support things he wants to continue doing in Canada and to Canadians, and don't want those things to change.

But yes, I could be wrong.

You may vote for someone else who is also into spending like a drunken sailor, loves to terrorize average Canadians and presents an image of being "better than" most Canadians.  I do think you're easily enamored by that type of politician.

 

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3 hours ago, eyeball said:

1. I wonder how the word woke or something like the phrase no more encouraging of woke cancellation will be treated under his call for plain language laws?

2. Every intelligent being in the universe wants that.

I was about to point out that Trudeau clearly doesn't and then I thought... okay, that doesn't count.

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sort of, but also not really.  Creating provisions for academic freedom and such would be one thing but appointing a judge to monitor university speech is the same kind of censorship really.

I doubt he'll do much of what he promised on the way up though.

Who does? Anyway, I've heard and read enough about the state of free thought and speech at post secondary institutions over the past five years to have little respect for them as forums of open thinking. They're among that group that loves and insists on diversity  of skin colour but not diversity of thinking. I regard them as government employees and feel they ought to be completely apolitical in their teaching. Not that all government employees bother to act apolitical these days, of course.

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3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Mr. Poillievre is promoting the cancellation of the carbon tax but ignores the obvious result. The price at the pump will not drop because the oil companies will pocket the difference. Why not? It is their gas and they can sell it for whatever the market will bear. People are used to the current price of gas. They will complain, but they always complain.

There are any number of ways the oil companies can be pressured behind the scenes to avoid that scenario.

3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

He doesn't give his alternative. All he says is we will use technology to solve the problem of global warming. Gee, why didn't the government think of that? Why didn't the US government or the rest of the world think of that?

I believe they have. The US has no carbon tax, as far as I'm aware. The only intelligent way to reduce CO2s is by replacing carbon spewing power systems with renewable. The only reliable renewable is nuclear. We should be going all out to build nuclear power plants. We should also be giving tax incentives to buy hybrid vehicles.

3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Firing the Governor of the Bank of Canada will not solve infaltion.

Perhaps not but who really cares other than he and his family?

 

3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

It says something about Mr. Poillievre's focus when he has all these ideas but is not sharing them with the government.

He has already shared some of them. He wants major cuts to the time needed to approve national resource projects as well as housing developments. He will negotiate with the provinces to streamline the former and use government grants to pressure municipalities into the latter.  And he will cut excess government borrowing and spending - which always spurs inflation.

 

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He FFS still snivelling about Covid shots. Did you get yours? NO? Then nobody made you get one, did they! You seem to be of the mind the lip service support to the Convoy Idiots helped, and you're gonna whine like hell when the minute he takes his seat as leader he drops the subject.

PP no longer needs the support of the fringes, he wants to win an election and needs the support of average voters to do that, not you. You can all run off and change your tune as soon as the roads change to no abortion debates, pro-immigration policies, being forced to spend money to keep the public content and coming up with a viable, actual Climate policy.

 

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2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

There are any number of ways the oil companies can be pressured behind the scenes to avoid that scenario.

Isn't that socialism? ? If I own a tanker of gasoline, I should be allowed the sell it for what ever I can get for it. It is only the government's business in a national emergency. Of course shoulda woulda coulda.

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

The only intelligent way to reduce CO2s is by replacing carbon spewing power systems with renewable. The only reliable renewable is nuclear. We should be going all out to build nuclear power plants.

I agree.

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

He has already shared some of them. He wants major cuts to the time needed to approve national resource projects as well as housing developments. He will negotiate with the provinces to streamline the former and use government grants to pressure municipalities into the latter.  And he will cut excess government borrowing and spending - which always spurs inflation.

My point is if there is a better way of doing things, you can be sure the government would have done them. Cutting taxes only increases the deficit. Healthcare, research and development, veterans, culture, etc are all cut to the bone already. Everybody wants to cut programs that other people want. What do you cut? I don't think the government should spend money on tourism. But it is important to millions of people. Some people think the government should not fund the CBC, but it is a service that is important to millions of people. (Ask former Prime Minister Mulroney if he had the chance to do it all over again, would he have cut into Coronation Street for an announcement on Meech?)

Governments make choices to provide the services Canadians want or need. When they make cuts, it has ramifications.

Anything Mr. Poillieve can dream up to improve affordability, you can be sure the government has already considered it. If they haven't done it, it probably isn't as good an idea as they originally thought. It doesn't matter which party is in office. The government can only do so much.

The call to address affordability is great. Okay. How? We have a highly professional civil service who's job is to advise the government on the best method to achieve that. One problem is housing. The reason for that is too many people wanting too few dwellings. Everyone wants to live in Toronto or Vancouver. There isn't any more room. How do you solve that? Get rid of the people? 

 

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2 hours ago, I am Groot said:
5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Firing the Governor of the Bank of Canada will not solve infaltion.

Perhaps not but who really cares other than he and his family?

Is that any reason to fire someone? Why fire the Governor who has been performing well?

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