Guest Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 She should be grounded. And have her smartphone taken away for a week.
taxme Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good question...did the girl or her parents actually report the false incident to the police...or just news media ? At first she reported the incident to the principal then called the police. I don't know as to where or how the media got wind of this? Was this a staged event? Hey, you never know, eh?
?Impact Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good question...did the girl or her parents actually report the false incident to the police...or just news media ? From the best I can tell she reported to her school. They called the media and the police. 8 minutes ago, taxme said: Where was the Star newspaper? They love reporting on racist or hate crimes all the time. Or did they know that this was going to turn out to be a bull chit story somehow? The Star did have an initial article on it. They reported that the man was Asian, in his 20s, black pants, black hoodie, brown gloves, with a moustache and was smiling at her. I didn't hear that in the television interview, so not sure how they sourced that information. Too bad he wasn't white, to serve your agenda.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ?Impact said: From the best I can tell she reported to her school. They called the media and the police. OK, but still not a crime. Lot's of kids lie in school ! This kid (or her parents) knew that the media were primed to run with such a juicy "Islamophobia" story. Edited January 16, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: OK, but still not a crime. Lot's of kids lie in school ! True, but lots of kids also tell the truth and are not believed. That is how pedophiles, especially ones known to the family, used to get away with their crimes. I think kids need to be listened to, but creating a media event was probably too far for the school officials.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, ?Impact said: True, but lots of kids also tell the truth and are not believed. That is how pedophiles, especially ones known to the family, used to get away with their crimes. I think kids need to be listened to, but creating a media event was probably too far for the school officials. Agreed....but when I was a kid, we just called them the "bogeyman" and ran like hell. Only had to be faster than the slowest kid. We never told the school principal.....wimps ! 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
taxme Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: OK, but still not a crime. Lot's of kids lie in school ! True but when there appears to be an act of racism or a hate crime happening then it is time to get the media and the police involved. It appears to be the law these days. I wonder which would come first for the police to be investigated? A murder or a hate crime? Just asking.
taxme Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, ?Impact said: From the best I can tell she reported to her school. They called the media and the police. The Star did have an initial article on it. They reported that the man was Asian, in his 20s, black pants, black hoodie, brown gloves, with a moustache and was smiling at her. I didn't hear that in the television interview, so not sure how they sourced that information. Too bad he wasn't white, to serve your agenda. Indeed, where did the Star get the Asian bit from? Too bad he wasn't white? That would surely have made your day, hey? Maybe this was a staged event by the Star? Hey, you never know, eh?
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, taxme said: True but when there appears to be an act of racism or a hate crime happening then it is time to get the media and the police involved. It appears to be the law these days. I wonder which would come first for the police to be investigated? A murder or a hate crime? Just asking. At least with a murder, the police would have a body to start with. This story didn't make any sense when I first read about it...."a man with scissors"....seriously ? The cops were just doing their job...the media was just chasing "Islamophobia"...whatever the hell that is. Edited January 16, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 2 Economics trumps Virtue.
taxme Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed....but when I was a kid, we just called them the "bogeyman" and ran like hell. Only had to be faster than the slowest kid. We never told the school principal.....wimps ! Kids are probably being taught today as to how to be good little commie squealers. Mommy, that boy called me a name. Boo-hoo. I got called many names as a kid in school. It didn't kill me. The system is full of wimps.
taxme Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: At least with a murder, the police would have a body to start with. This story didn't make make any sense when I first read about it...."a man with scissors"....seriously ? The cops were just doing their job...the media was just chasing "Islamophobia"...whatever the hell that is. That is why I say that the police should have looked into this further and find out as to who may have been behind getting this girl to make up this story. But instead it looks like they have closed this very serious false hate crime case. Nobody to start with now. Another mystery unsolved.
DogOnPorch Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: OK, but still not a crime. Lot's of kids lie in school ! This kid (or her parents) knew that the media were primed to run with such a juicy "Islamophobia" story. There is some talk about how much the CBC knew as they managed to file a full report within record time...shorter than it would take to send a reporter to the scene and back in travel time. Odd that... Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 Plus good ol' Dear Leader...not to be deterred by the story being fake, doubled down on the Islamophobia. Quote On Monday afternoon, the prime minister said he was relieved that the incident hadn't in fact taken place. "We have seen an unfortunate pattern of increased hate crimes in past months directed towards religious minorities, particularly towards women," he said, calling such violence "a warning sign of increased intolerance." "We are a country that defends freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and people's rights to go to school without being fearful or harassed," he said. "This is fundamental to who we are." We have?? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: There is some talk about how much the CBC knew as they managed to file a full report within record time...shorter than it would take to send a reporter to the scene and back in travel time. Odd that... Ooooo... a conspiracy.... tell us more bs about the big bad cbc.... 1
betsy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Argus said: I don't know about that, but this girl does play into the doubts many have about importing massive numbers of Muslims into Canada. She has no accent that I heard, so was born and grew up here, but she's still swaddled in robes, and her name Khawlah, is clearly one from her homeland. I had recent experience spending some time chatting with a very pleasant young woman whose parents were refugees from Vietnam. She was, in every way I could detect, entirely Canadian in her behavior, dress and outlook. She was given a very Canadian name by her parents. When I commented that that's not exactly a Vietnamese name she laughed and said her parents wanted to raise their kids here as Canadians, so gave them Canadian names and made sure they knew they were Canadian, not Vietnamese. That's something I don't see much of from Muslim immigrants, who insist on clinging to their old world culture an values and insist their children, particularly daughters, do too. My next door neighour was born here, but he too has an Arab name, as do his three sons. She could become like the Khadr children, for all we know. Yes, I agree with you about the Vietnamese. I know a Vietnamese mother who's second generation, and she's got this son whom she named "Johnson." Out of curiousity, I asked her how come she named him Johnson - was it after the US President? No, she said. It's the baby powder. She was serious too. Edited January 16, 2018 by betsy
betsy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, taxme said: That is why I say that the police should have looked into this further and find out as to who may have been behind getting this girl to make up this story. But instead it looks like they have closed this very serious false hate crime case. Nobody to start with now. Another mystery unsolved. Maybe, just in case.........they don't want to uncover what the PM won't want us to know? Edited January 16, 2018 by betsy
DogOnPorch Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 5 hours ago, The_Squid said: Ooooo... a conspiracy.... tell us more bs about the big bad cbc.... They've got super hero powers. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 10 hours ago, ?Impact said: True, but lots of kids also tell the truth and are not believed. That is how pedophiles, especially ones known to the family, used to get away with their crimes. I think kids need to be listened to, but creating a media event was probably too far for the school officials. Agreed. This is bad because it makes legitimate victims reluctant to speak out. My guess is the mother put her up to it. The mother is a long time right wing Muslim activist. The words the child used were rehearsed ans not typical of an 11 year old.. As well the boy (broiter) was laughing throughout the press conference. How would scissors cut through a winter-hood which she said she was wearing to cut her covering not once but twice. Asian with a mustache? Uh hello. How many of you know a South Korean, Japanese, Chinese, even Filippino with a mustache? Muslims yes. Mustaches without other hair are not typical of Asians or even white guys these days. Used to be every cop and gay guy had one as well as baseball pitchers. They are pretty rare today unless its an old geezer and rare with Asians. Oh but wait I am stereotyping. No profiling. Asking questions. How the hell does an Asian man use scissors that cut through a hood but not someone's scalp? Yabba Dabba Doo.
Rue Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: They've got super hero powers. No Doggie only Lisa LaFlamme of CTV which is of course a Drag Queen name because Lisa is really Lawrence. The only powers they have at the CBC are manifested by Don Cherry. He is the remaining source of veracity from that stink hole.
PIK Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 If a 11 yr old white girl was shot and killed, it would get a mention, but nothing like what happened here. The media and its liberal friends went berserk over this thinking they had something to rip the country apart with. The school board is also at fault for calling in the media to the school. Now is this family up to something as looking for compensation or could the girl hate being forced to wear this and used this to get away from wearing it. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Goddess Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 The girl's brother is involved in the lie, too: http://www.metronews.ca/news/toronto/2018/01/12/man-cuts-hijab-off-young-girl-returns-to-attack-again.html Quote Noman had been walking for about two minutes up Birchmount Rd. when the incident occurred. After the attack, she crossed to the other side of the road and joined a group of children, she said. The second attack happened after Noman, her brother, and a group of children went to cross the light at Bay Mills Blvd. Zakariyya did not make the light in time to safely cross, and his sister waited for him to get across Birchmount. She was left alone, separated from the group, and the man attacked her a second time. Her brother told reporters that he was frightened, and worried his sister would be hurt. “I’m so glad that she’s safe and I’m safe.” I think it is a possibility that this whole thing was staged by adults, using the children knowing they would not get charged with anything if it was found out to be a lie. At first, I thought the girl could have a reason to lie - maybe she got caught taking off her hijab and didn't want to get into trouble, maybe she thought if she was attacked her parents would think it was too dangerous and let her go without it, maybe she damaged her own hijab accidently and didnt' want to get into trouble..... But why would both these children collaborate on the lie? "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Argus Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 20 hours ago, Goddess said: Mostly I think it was just a little girl, desperate to ditch the hijab. Maybe she thought if she was attacked, her parents would think it was too dangerous to wear and let her go without one. That makes sense. I notice the mother wears the niquab. That's probably in store for the girl very soon. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 18 hours ago, ?Impact said: I think there were too many Dick, Jane & Sally (s) when I was growing up. Actually it was David, Debbie, Karen and Stephen. Why must immigrants Anglicize their names? I didn't say they must. I said that the Vietnamese girl's parents deliberately chose a Canadian sounding name for her so she would fit in with other kids and to make the point they were Canadians now. I entirely approve of both these notions. This girl's mother has been in Canada 20 years and still wears the niquab and covers her prepubescent daughter in more swaddling clothes. She clearly has zero interest in either her or her daughter blending into Canadian society. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 12 hours ago, ?Impact said: I just watched the original interview. There were four microphones visible. City Pulse which is fairly even keeled, right wing CTV and Global were also there, a CTV and Global news are right wing? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Goddess Posted January 16, 2018 Report Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Argus said: This girl's mother has been in Canada 20 years and still wears the niquab and covers her prepubescent daughter in more swaddling clothes. She clearly has zero interest in either her or her daughter blending into Canadian society. One of the things about religious cults is that they like to "instigate" persecution. It accomplishes several things - gets publicity for them, makes them appear to be victims so they get public sympathy and it also reinforces to its own followers that they are the "true" religion because, Look! The Devil is out to get us because he knows we are the right religion! Martyrdom is encouraged and when society takes no notice of a religious cult, they have to instigate it themselves. The JW's did this in the 30's and 40's - made spectacles of themselves during wartime so that they were attacked, tarred & feathered, beaten, mobbed, etc all over the US. It got their name out there, got sympathy, convinced the flock to stick with the religion because being persecuted means that they were the "one true religion." Koresh did similar with Waco. "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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