?Impact Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Goddess said: We took him back to the house that evening, made him apologize to the family and pay for the ribbons out of his money. Not sufficient, your kid and you should have been flogged in public for that is what you are demanding of others.
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: The parents and the school board held a news conference, that is what brought this to public attention - not the statements of Trudeau, Scheer, or anyone else. I know you want blood, well too friggen bad, there is no blood to be offered. A kid made a mistake, and it is up to her parents to deal with it. Could you please quote verbatim anyone that you are looking for the blood from that said to find and castrate anyone? Put up the quote please, you are the one claiming it happened. If you cannot, then I expect you to make a public apology with tears for your over the top rhetoric. I expect nothing less, or else you would be a gigantic hypocrite. Quit exaggerating what's being said. No one is screaming for blood, no one said she should be in stocks and have tomatoes thrown at her. No one is saying she should be flogged. Knock it off. It's your rhetoric that's over the top. Edited January 15, 2018 by Goddess 2 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
?Impact Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's your rhetoric that's over the top. I wasn't the one that wanted to make an example of her and her family, that was PIK a half hour ago. You yourself wanted to force her to make a public apology. I am not against her making a public apology, but that is not up to me or you that is up to her family to decide what is appropriate. We have absolutely no idea about her family, so what qualifies us to make demands?
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ?Impact said: You yourself wanted to force her to make a public apology. No. I said if I were her parent I would do that. I have done that when I was raising my kids. Stop exagerrating what is being said. 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, ?Impact said: We have absolutely no idea about her family, We do have some idea of her family - she is 11 years old being forced to wear a hijab, with a mother who wears full face and body coverings. Religious fundies. 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 The mother certainly abetted it...backing-up the kid's story. Couldn't see her face...not allowed. JT pretty much laid responsibility at the feet of non-Muslim Canadians. Pretty lame. "This young girl was attacked, seemingly for her religion"...etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSx25kfHKzw No maybe about it...she was attacked. Plus, I see his diverse cabinet is behind him in support...no questions asked. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, Goddess said: Filing false police reports should not be done for fun. It is serious. These were serious allegations. There should be consequences or they will just keep doing it. The "perception" is that there is rampant, unchecked Islamophobia in Canada. Also serious implications. Yeah, I agree. But she's 11, and her brother is even younger. Nothing you can do but give them and their parents a stern talking to. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: JT pretty much laid responsibility at the feet of non-Muslim Canadians. Pretty lame. Bullcrap, you are the one with over the top rhetoric. He said this is not what Canada is about, did you miss that part? How do you construe that at blaming non-Muslims?
Argus Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The mother certainly abetted it...backing-up the kid's story. Couldn't see her face...not allowed. I don't know about that, but this girl does play into the doubts many have about importing massive numbers of Muslims into Canada. She has no accent that I heard, so was born and grew up here, but she's still swaddled in robes, and her name Khawlah, is clearly one from her homeland. I had recent experience spending some time chatting with a very pleasant young woman whose parents were refugees from Vietnam. She was, in every way I could detect, entirely Canadian in her behavior, dress and outlook. She was given a very Canadian name by her parents. When I commented that that's not exactly a Vietnamese name she laughed and said her parents wanted to raise their kids here as Canadians, so gave them Canadian names and made sure they knew they were Canadian, not Vietnamese. That's something I don't see much of from Muslim immigrants, who insist on clinging to their old world culture an values and insist their children, particularly daughters, do too. My next door neighour was born here, but he too has an Arab name, as do his three sons. Edited January 15, 2018 by Argus 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Bullcrap, you are the one with over the top rhetoric. He said this is not what Canada is about, did you miss that part? How do you construe that at blaming non-Muslims? You wish to excuse the King...I wish the opposite. We'll have to disagree on his intent. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Argus said: I don't know about that, but this girl does play into the doubts many have about importing massive numbers of Muslims into Canada. She has no accent that I heard, so was born and grew up here, but she's still swaddled in robes, and her name Khawlah, is clearly one from her homeland. I had recent experience spending some time chatting with a very pleasant young woman whose parents were refugees from Vietnam. She was, in every way I could detect, entirely Canadian in her behavior, dress and outlook. She was given a very Canadian name by her parents. When I commented that that's not exactly a Vietnamese name she laughed and said her parents wanted to raise their kids here as Canadians, so gave them Canadian names and made sure they knew they were Canadian, not Vietnamese. That's something I don't see much of from Muslim immigrants, who insist on clinging to their old world culture an values and insist their children, particularly daughters, do too. My next door neighour was born here, but he too has an Arab name, as do his three sons. I have nothing but respect for the South Vietnamese community in Canada. Never victims. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, Argus said: Yeah, I agree. But she's 11, and her brother is even younger. Nothing you can do but give them and their parents a stern talking to. I wonder what the Islamic punishment is for bearing false witness. I'm guessing it's far worse that thinking the girl should publicly appologize. "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Goddess said: I wonder what the Islamic punishment is for bearing false witness. I'm guessing it's far worse that thinking the girl should publicly appologize. It is permissible to lie to the unbeliever. Scripture available if needed. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Argus said: I don't know about that, but this girl does play into the doubts many have about importing massive numbers of Muslims into Canada. She has no accent that I heard, so was born and grew up here, but she's still swaddled in robes, and her name Khawlah, is clearly one from her homeland. I had recent experience spending some time chatting with a very pleasant young woman whose parents were refugees from Vietnam. She was, in every way I could detect, entirely Canadian in her behavior, dress and outlook. She was given a very Canadian name by her parents. When I commented that that's not exactly a Vietnamese name she laughed and said her parents wanted to raise their kids here as Canadians, so gave them Canadian names and made sure they knew they were Canadian, not Vietnamese. That's something I don't see much of from Muslim immigrants, who insist on clinging to their old world culture an values and insist their children, particularly daughters, do too. My next door neighour was born here, but he too has an Arab name, as do his three sons. This girl's mother said she has been in Canada for 20 years. "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Argus Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Goddess said: This girl's mother said she has been in Canada for 20 years. So here 20 years and still insists her 11 year old wear that full ethnic/religious garb from the old country. Not much sign of adaptation or assimilation there. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Argus said: So here 20 years and still insists her 11 year old wear that full ethnic/religious garb from the old country. Not much sign of adaptation or assimilation there. Diversity is our strength. 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Boges Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 Also shame on the School Board for trotting this girl and her mother in front of TV cameras without a shred of evidence. We seem to be in a post facts world where allegations are all people pay attention to. 1
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boges said: Also shame on the School Board for trotting this girl and her mother in front of TV cameras without a shred of evidence. We seem to be in a post facts world where allegations are all people pay attention to. Well, I guess when Trudeau said, "This is NOT Canada" he was correct. It wasn't. 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: Well, I guess when Trudeau said, "This is NOT Canada" he was correct. It wasn't. You're on your game today. I'd get you to question Dear Leader...screw the reporters. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Goddess said: Well, I guess when Trudeau said, "This is NOT Canada" he was correct. It wasn't. Didn't that used to be the national motto of Yugoslavia? 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: You're on your game today. I'd get you to question Dear Leader...screw the reporters. I watched the YouTube of the press conference again at lunch. It's much more interesting when you know it was all based on lies. "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Boges Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 It sounds completely made up. Some guy just smiles and cuts her hijab, and comes back and does it again? And there were no witnesses? (Obviously no witnesses because it was fake)
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: I watched the YouTube of the press conference again at lunch. It's much more interesting when you know it was all based on lies. Scary, too. JT asked noooooo questions re: veracity. The young lady was attacked...and all those stern looking Cabinet Ministers went along. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Goddess Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Boges said: It sounds completely made up. Some guy just smiles and cuts her hijab, and comes back and does it again? And there were no witnesses? (Obviously no witnesses because it was fake) What would you do for 10 million? 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2018 Report Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Goddess said: What would you do for 10 million? I hadn't considered that...good point. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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