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No kidding. Head of U.S. Federal Communications Commission wearing Trump's lapel pin just like Mao's lackeys during his rule in China. Sources: MSN Dean Blundell It always, every time begins with twisting the truth a little bit at a time, no one noticed, nobody cared and always ends up in this. And here's the remedy: zero tolerance, open season on maga lying. Every time we see it, in any place, connection and occasion we call maga's bull immediately and loud. Bring it into the spotlight. Laugh at it, despise it and ostracize it. Shove, push and kick it out from the normal society back into its brainlessly insane habitat. Don't let it take root and grow. Because every time, everywhere it ends up in the same thing, insane, stupid and dangerous. Zero tolerance on maga lying. Call maga bullsh*t every time at once. Nowhere should be safe for maga lies in the sane world.

I don't think panelists were turned off per se they simply pointed out rallies amount to little more than preaching to the choir. Rally goers are almost entirely made up of supporters. It's attracting that Poilievre seems to suck at.

Now that reeks of desperation. Lol

The global economy is being reordered by trump the same way the twin towers were reordered by the 9/11 hijackers. Even if we pretend Trump had some noble purpose (he doesn’t) and even if we pretend having a global economy was the problem (it isn’t) he is going about it the most reckless and incompetent way. The US economy is dependent upon the current system global trade and if you’re going to change that you have to do it in a thoughtful considered way in partnership with all the domestic and international stakeholders. Secondly while I appreciate that MAGAs are all now finally repeating all the left-wing talking points about the rich getting richer and the plight of the working class, I will remind you that it was republicans who have made their political career over decades declaring these concerns irrelevant. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Nobody wants to earn $10 a day as they do in the places where the jobs went and nobody wants to pay $600 for a toaster just to support middle class jobs for toaster makers. Factory jobs were never really good paying to begin with they were only better than alternatives in economically depressed areas where they tended to build factories just for that reason. And it was republican union-busting that helped ensure they remained low paying. Furthermore if manufacturing jobs DO come back they’re likely not going back to the rustbelt factory towns in the middle of nowhere where they used to be. Also a lot of those jobs didn’t go overseas they were replaced by automation or made redundant by consolidation after corporate mergers as companies grew by acquiring their competitors Lastly considering the cost to society (public and private costs ) of raising a person to working age in a first world country, having them perform the unskilled labour currently being done by “Chinese peasants” as Vance recently said is incredibly inefficient.

This video is an interview of a staffer from the "Biden" White House. She reveals that the three people in charge were called the Council of Presidents and that they ran the country for the majority (if not the entirety) of the Biden administration. They are: Mike Donilon Steve Ricchetti Anita Dunn She also confirmed that Hunter made a lot of the calls when Joe was sick with Covid and that he sat in on classified meetings.

Just another reason Canada is 62 billion dollars in debt. "Over 2015-2021, the Government of Canada delivered $2.65 billion in international climate finance to developing countries. Canada’s climate finance commitment prioritized climate change adaptation and mitigation efforts, the mobilization of private sector capital for climate action, and the provision of support to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) institutions and mechanisms." Canada’s $2.65 Billion International Climate Finance Commitment - Canada.ca However, this report doesn't say how much they gave from 2021 to 2025. Could be billions of dollars more. " Canada announces $450 million for the Green Climate Fund, the world’s largest dedicated climate change fund From: Environment and Climate Change Canada News release July 12, 2023 – Brussels, Belgium Today, ahead of the seventh Ministerial on Climate Action (MoCA7), the Honourable Steven Guilbeault, Minister of Environment and Climate Change, on behalf of the Honourable Harjit S. Sajjan, Minister of International Development and Minister responsible for the Pacific Economic Development Agency of Canada, announced a $450 million contribution to the second replenishment of the Green Climate Fund (GCF), the world’s largest dedicated climate change fund and a critical funding mechanism of the Paris Agreement. This contribution is a 50 percent increase from Canada’s 2019 pledge to the GCF’s first replenishment. This funding, which is a part of Canada’s $5.3 billion climate finance commitment, will directly support developing countries’ clean energy transitions and climate-resilient sustainable development as more extreme climate impacts are being felt around the globe. Through its contribution to the GCF, Canada is helping lead the clean energy transition and meet the 1.5 degrees Celsius climate target. Funding announced today could, for example, enable the advancement of clean and renewable energy projects in Indonesia and across the Southeast Asia region, aiding countries as they drive transition from coal-fired power. Helping achieve this transition is a key element of Canada’s support for the region as part of its Indo-Pacific Strategy. Following the adoption of the Kunming-Montréal Global Biodiversity Framework, Canada welcomes the GCF’s leadership in supporting developing countries’ actions to conserve, restore and protect nature and biodiversity. In 2022, Minister Guilbeault and Jennifer Morgan, German State Secretary and Special Envoy for International Climate Action, published the Climate Finance Delivery Plan Progress Report, which outlines the steps contributors are taking to meet the goal this year, and are continuing the dialogue with other countries to ensure their commitments are upheld. " Canada announces $450 million for the Green Climate Fund, the world’s largest dedicated climate change fund - Canada.ca Can we expect this kind of spending to continue if Carney wins? Yes, I think we can. The reason is because he was a key figure in the U.N. climate change war and other international organizations. He has been a committed fighter against climate change. This should make all the Greta Thunberg followers happy. They could care less about the economy and the damage to their country as long as they think everything is being put into the their war on climate change. Incidentally I don't believe man can control the climate and Canada's emissions are miniscule compared with China and the rest of the world.

Mulroney tried several remarkable policy things/changes: 1. Free trade with the US. 2. GST/VAT 3. Meech Lake, nw. 4. SO2 Environment market. 5. Aparthieid. === IMHO, the GST is the most remarkable Mulroney. ========== Harper, he got rid of the penny. ========== Trudeau Jnr, he legalised marijuana. ========== Chretien/Martin, they reduced spending.

Just to clarify, I am agreeing with you about immigration.

Americans should be very careful what they wish for. At the moment, foreigners are selling them stuff they want and putting many of those earned dollars into IOUs from the US Treasury. If that commodius vicus of recirculation were to stop suddenly, God help us all.

Comment from another website..... "This is not an election but a referendum on the IQ of the Canadian electorate..... Our village <censored> is the only one with 10 Liberal lawn signs bunging up his driveway".

Oh look, the little boy who's constantly crying about my post count being too high showed up to cry about my post account being too high As I've said a billion times, the fact that you take all day to enter a couple of posts because you type with two fingers does not mean everyone else does Sorry kiddo I've never imagined you to be a friend so it doesn't rule out my real ones Your problem is it takes you forever to be stupid and it takes me hardly any time at all to be smart. You think it actually takes longer to be smart but it really doesn't if you are actually smart. Stupid however drags on forever as you have proven so often what's 100 percent minus 50 again?

No, we're the ones treating everything you lie about is a lie . And I know that offends you, and your utterly shocked and amazed that everybody seems to notice that you're lying and points it out. And then you want to blame everyone else and it's their fault you're lying

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Cardy Leader Dominic Cardy...

Well I never understood the strategy, but I'm not really the target either. Regardless of how it appears to a CBC panelist, or to me (a conservative btw) I don't see how anyone can assert that it has the opposite effect unless they do some kind of survey. Even then, it would be difficult. "In a survey of potential voters who are undecided, x% indicated that the large rallies will make them definitely not vote CPC" That seems like a survey that would just produce a percentage of percentage of undecided about being undecided.

I'm sure those rallies turn off CBC panelists. Beyond that, I don't know how they can assert that with any confidence.

yet you respond. Hmm.. for not caring you have a funny way of showing that.

Exactly. It's all the same to you.

@robosmith Remember when you were talking about how Charlie Kirk was unfairly punching down on uneducated, uninformed liberals, so his forum format didn't actually constitute "debating"? This thread is a perfect example of what you should do when confronted with a topic that you either don't know a lot about, or where you actually have nothing to say in your own defence.... Just run like all the LPOC apologists in this forum are running from this thread. Carney is not a man of integrity at all. There's no defending him. So the lefties here just keep their traps shut. Got it? If you see Charlie Kirk, just run. Don't be a victim of info-bullying.

He thinks you're talking about the hardware store. You have to make it more simple for him

Not perspective but outright bias.

Same way you did. They are your words . Thanks for the peanuts.

Except as you describe it : Which is way more than 20% considering he’s barely been in office 2 months There are so many layers of negligence and incompetence here: Its not like he took a well- researched and widely supported policy but he just implemented it poorly Its not like he took a chance on an innovative, well researched but highly unconventional policy that made sense in theory but turned out to not work in practice It’s not like this failed policy was some inconsequential side project of his administration that had no real relevance to his administration or the economy 1) His economic theory was absolute gibberish made up in his own head and showed he lacks even a basic grasp of economic principles. And it was based on fake numbers that don’t even attempt to appear credible. The fact that his enablers in the White House and congress allowed him to implement this crazy scheme just shows how irresponsible US politics had become and it has destroyed what few shreds of credibility the increasingly dysfunctional United States had left 2) Not only is it absolutely insane that the entire global economy is being reordered based on the crazy idea of ONE MAN who knows nothing on the subject and is contradicting all accepted principles of economics, but on top of that this insanely terrible idea was implemented in an insanely terribly way with all the daily contradictory statements by White House officials and Trump contradicting himself as well as on-again-off-again tariffs and public infighting between officials It’s clearly just a chaotic madhouse over there nobody knows what’s going on or how anything works or even what their goal is Anyone who tried to do something similarly incoherent, irresponsible and incompetent at their work with majorly serious repercussions for their employer and business partners would be fired on the spot This is so shockingly negligent it’s practically grounds for impeachment So someone saying they disagree with his tariffs but still 80% like him is like saying they disagree with Hitler’s holocaust and wars but still 80% like him.

Why do you keep saying such stupid things? And you're a sucker for right wing lies and AI fakes.

Well let’s be honest they have given multiple contradictory explanations for the tariffs. Because they’ve also said countries can negotiate away their tariffs by dropping tariffs against US goods or making other unspecified “deals” with the Trump administration (ergo no need to relocate). Other times they said the tariffs were not negotiable and are intended to be a new permanent revenue source (which obviously wouldn’t apply if people relocate) Trump has said he wants to return to how things were in gilded age of the late 19th century but there weren’t any “good paying factory jobs” in those days or any “good paying jobs” at all. In fact back then people who performed paid labour instead of farming or being self-employed were considered deadbeats and at the bottom of society

Should we oppose trade with Americans, oppose the bully? Or kiss its ring, kowtow? ==== Myata, you strike me as the typical colonised person, a battered wife syndrome.

More or less. The Trudeau Jnr years have been too much social change.

It's just the stupidification of "conservative" politics - a veritable race to the bottom. After the Carney and Epstein story died out as the nothingburger it was, little PP has been flailing for a new angle. He needs that hot new slogan...People's Party Carney maybe? It can't be more than 3 words, otherwise his audience loses interest.

Yeah but he wasn't actually talking to you, he was chastising the voices in his head for not making a good argument. He forgets we can't hear them.

He just used them to make himself and his cronies a tidy bundle. "Tariffs will make us rich" Now we know who he means by us. Missed out on the first flip-flop did you? It's not like he didn't warn you. "THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT." He gave some 4 hours notice that something was up.

Like what? He said he was gonna use tariffs...and he used tariffs. Maybe he'll use them again too.

This video was just posted on Poilievre's Youtube channel this morning. Cut taxes and fees. Get government out of the way.

I think the fact Trump made $415 million right after flipping proves we can rely on the Thief in Chief to take care of himself.... “THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT”. ...he posted 4 hours before flopping. Sounds like a lot of his buddies, who also just made out like bandits on the stock market rebound, trusted him to take care of them too. Except now they owe him something of course. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin's portfolio suddenly just got fatter too. Liberation Day should be called Insider Trading Day.

Thanks for demonstrating you STILL KNOW NOTHING about real DEBATE. Kirk and his propaganda campaign is NOT DEBATE.

In his opinion, a real debate has a moderator who picks a side 😉

Exactly. Business might make some easy changes, but they certainly aren't going to make massive strategic decisions based on a mercurial lame duck president with a 2-year minimum shelf life and a 4 year maximum. (Assuming we still have elections.) They will wait out the chaos.

And for the Cons, couldn’t polls predicting a big loss keep some of them at home? I'm just waiting for the Cons to start saying "The system is rigged!"

The only poll that counts is the one you vote in. Poilievre is out of his league in this fight, he has never dealt with a crisis and has never held a job other than one of Politics. Carney has had many real jobs. He lead the Bank of England through Brexit. Poilievre says he will lower the deficit but in every promise he has made, the costs are more than the Liberal promises. So is he going to raise taxes or cut programs. You can't have it both ways. Get realistic.

Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why?

Since we are in an election it is wise to review the ethics violations of the previous government. This should play a major factor in helping decide who to vote for in this election. How a government performed in its previous terms is of course a major factor on whether they should deserve the right to form the next government. " RIGHT DISHONOURABLE: Scandals that defined the Trudeau era Here's a list of some of the more notable goofs, scandals and blunders that defined the Trudeau era Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s nearly decade-long time in office was defined by a regular stream of scandals, faux pas and controversies — many of which brought the PM to his knees but, against all odds, managed to maintain the confidence of his party. While this list doesn’t cover everything, here’s a sampling of some of the biggest blunders, goofs and scandals committed by the PM and his government over the past 10 years." CASH-FOR-ACCESS SCANDAL (2016) In Dec. 2016, The Globe and Mail reported pricey Liberal Party cash-for-access events held at homes of wealthy Chinese-Canadians, charging attendees as much as $1,525 each in exchange for one-on-one time with the PM. AGA KHAN AFFAIR (2016) Among the first defining scandals of Trudeau’s administration was the PM’s infamous eight-day 2016 Christmas vacation at the Aga Khan’s private island in The Bahamas. While the PMO concealed the trip from public view, the story — broken by the National Post — was later confirmed, touching off an ethics investigation that saw Trudeau become the first PM in Canadian history found guilty of ethics breaches. ELBOWGATE (2016) Trudeau’s attempt to manhandle the Conservative whip during a vote resulted in a female MP being elbowed in the chest, prompting a flurry of apologies from the PM. During an attempt to delay a third-reading vote on an assisted dying bill on May 18, 2016, Trudeau grabbed Conservative Whip Gord Brown by the arm to lead him away from MPs gathered on the floor of the House of Commons. INDIA TRIP (2018) Among the more memorable blunders from the Trudeau era was the infamous 2018 state visit to India, which saw the PM — still riding high in popularity both at home and around the world — engage in some embarrassing behaviour. Despite being invited by Indian PM Narendra Modi, Trudeau and his family were greeted at the airport by an agricultural minister. Among invitees to a state dinner during Trudeau’s visit were Sikh extremist Jaspar Atwal — one of four people convicted in a 1986 plot to murder Indian cabinet minister Malkiat Singh Sidhu. Seemingly unwilling to settle on locally-produced food, the government paid over $17,000 to fly Canadian celebrity chef Vikram Vij to India from Vancouver to prepare food for the PM and his entourage at a number of events. KOKANEE GROPE (2018) In June 2018, a screenshot of a two-decade old editorial published in a local B.C. newspaper accused Trudeau of “groping” and “inappropriately handling” a reporter sent to cover the August 2000 Kokanee Summit Festival on behalf of the National Post. The event was a fundraiser commemorating Trudeau’s brother Michel, killed by a 1998 avalanche while skiing in Kokanee Glacier Provincial Park. SNC LAVALIN AFFAIR (2019) Among the most notable Trudeau scandals began with a February 2019 Globe and Mail article alleging attempts to waylay prosecution in a corruption case involving Quebec-based construction giant SNC-Lavalin, now known as AtkinsRealis. That article went to print shortly after former cabinet member Jody Wilson-Raybould was demoted from Justice Minister to Veteran’s Affairs after reportedly refusing requests to offer deferred prosecution to the company, sparing the firm a conviction that would ban it from bidding on government contracts for a decade. WE CHARITY SCANDAL (2020) The Trudeau government’s April 2020 decision to enlist WE — an international children’s charity founded by brothers Craig and Marc Kielburger — to operate their $912 million Canada Student Service Grant program touched off a scandal that, once again, put the PM in the middle of yet another situation involving questionable ethics. BLACKFACE (2019) A bombshell during the 2019 federal election saw Trudeau come face-to-face with allegations he’d darkened his skin to act as racist caricatures on numerous occasions. THE FREEDOM CONVOY (2022) The Trudeau government’s handling of the Freedom Convoy, one of the largest protest mobilizations in Canadian history, came under intense criticism. THE TRIPS Aside from the infamous India trip, the Trudeau era is marked with numerous questionable uses of government money and aircraft for excursions both local and abroad — including 2015’s trip to COP21, where $800,000 was spent to send 283 delegates to the Paris summit. The United States, in contrast, only sent 124 delegates. “Nothing says saving the planet like posing for pictures as you dine on the taxpayer dime in France,” the CTF’s Kris Sims told the Sun. OTHER NOTABLE SCANDALS/FAUXS PAS: 2017: Trudeau makes his infamous “Welcome to Canada” tweet, which touched off a wave of illegal entries into Canada at illegal border crossings — most notoriously at Roxham Rd. on the Quebec/New York state border 2018: Arrest and subsequent detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver airport on a U.S. extradition request, a move that would result in the summary arrest of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig by the Chinese government. They would be released after 1,019 days in detention on Sept. 24, 2021, the same day Canada released Meng from custody 2017-2021: Appointment, and subsequent resignation, of Governor General Julie Payette 2019: Vice-Adm. Mark Norman affair 2020: Bill C-11, the controversial Online Streaming Act, is tabled in the House of Commons 2020: The infamous May 2020 order-in-council summarily banning thousands of semi-automatic firearms is introduced 2020: Questionable response to COVID-19 pandemic, including bungling disbursement of support money, vaccine mandates and questionable vaccine procurement 2020: ArriveCan scandal, where an $80,000 pandemic-era travel app ballooned into costing nearly $60M, and raised questions surrounding how government contracts get handed out 2021: Gen. Jonathan Vance affair 2021: Government tables bill C-21, its far-reaching and contentious gun control legislation 2021: Trudeau and cabinet abstaining from China Uighurs genocide vote 2021: A mansion belonging to property developer Wei Wei is raided by police as part of an underground gambling investigation in July 2020. Toronto Life Magazine later revealed that Wei had attended pricey Liberal party fundraisers and posed with photos with Trudeau, and was a member of a Chinese industry delegation that had connections to million-dollar donations to the Trudeau Foundation 2022: Media reports reveal the Trudeau Liberals had paid billions in consultancy fees during their time in office, including over $110 million to McKinsey & Company 2022: The Liberals and NDP sign their infamous supply and confidence agreement that would protect the minority Liberals from being toppled by non-confidence votes. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh publicly tore up the agreement last September, but kept supporting the government 2023: Media reports uncover the scale and scope of Chinese interference in Canadian affairs, including allegations of meddling in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections and threats to Canadian politicians. The PMO was given reports from intelligence officials on the meddling as early as 2017, including warnings that candidates may be part of Chinese interference attempts, but allegedly ignored the warnings 2023: The federal government announces attempts to recoup the $112,000 anti-racism grant awarded to a group associated with activist Laith Marouf, who routinely posted antisemitic material on social media 2024: Global Affairs Canada purchases $9 million condo in Manhattan for consul general 2024: Randy Boissonnault implosion — including pandemic-era federal contracts granted to a company he co-owned, and changing stories on his supposed Indigenous background 2024: Sustainable Development Technology Canada program, better known as the “green slush fund” scandal For more details about scandals: RIGHT DISHONOURABLE: Scandals that defined the Trudeau era | Toronto Sun

How to decide who to vote for: Vote like I tell you. Such a well of wisdom. "Saviour of the Nation"

sometimes I wonder if this is some strange buy low, sell high game. The stock market tanks and then he does something and now metrics go up. He then can tout his remarkably recovery.

So maybe all the tariffs on the US have served their purpose then... China, Japan, Korea, England, Germany, etc have all had 80 years to rebuild, and it's no longer fair to have tariffs set so high that American cars can never be sold in Europe and Japan, while their cars are all over the US.

Like Joey Smallwood, I Chose Canada. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=smallwood+i+chose+canada

Had a drinking buddy like you decades back. Never made any sense at all, but kept conversations going endlessly.

We run into each other every evening taking our dogs Out for a Trump. That is the term used by everyone in the neighbourhood. That is the respect given to your Fanta Fuhrer by loyal Canadians. Which his supporters north of the border are not.