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Honestly, I think that society is moving on from it. I think that some know this but do not want to accept it. It really bothers them that they have no captive audience. They are free to keep going even if no one is listening.

Aaaaaand there it is...verbal diarrhea....with insults too....as expected. I wish I could be vaccinated against it and you two LOL Best I can do is block you and suffer constipation. LOL

It’s always about money and freedom of opportunity. Canada is losing its once very strong brand because our Liberal-NDP federal government can’t help but overreach into every area of people’s lives and every political jurisdiction. The question Canadians are rightly asking is, What’s the upside? Our military and federal bureaucracies such as Passports and Immigration are dysfunctional. Taxes are rising, wages are stagnant, cost of living is rising, and freedom of speech is weakening. The promises of the budget balancing itself and $10 a day daycare for all are falling flat as government and debt balloon out of all proportion, even as the feds continue to borrow money to make more announcements for programs we can’t afford. No one is fooled. In this climate, of course provinces will talk independence. The Canadian model isn’t looking great right now. The 5 year federal term limit is simply too long in Canada. Everyone knows that the NDP will prop up this government no matter how bad it is in order to hold onto seats. Everyone knows the debt hole is growing fast and Canada is a slow moving inefficient machine right now. Other than safety from gun violence and better public K-12 education (perhaps no longer given the mandated woke anti-Canada and pro-LGBTQ indoctrination), why would anyone choose Canada over the US? We’ve lost so much in eight years.

You fools will buy anything this man tries to sell you. TBH, I think somewhere you and your buddies are grateful that you’ve gotten solid advice to avoid this stock. And now, his stock is trading below $25. If this guy can’t pull of an IPO, and instead drives his company straight into the ground, how can you expect him to lead the country?

She can believe what she wants and act accordingly with my blessings, that's OK. I would certainly defend her right to do it too, that's what this is about. But then we come to: Nancy voted for this and there were enough Nancy's to carry the day. She remains unapologetic and will react the same way next time she's frightened. Point it out, try to reason with her and it won't work. Ask to be left alone and she'll call you Trumper... a name she got from the MSM you refer to. She jotted that down and taped it to the inside of her door so she could remember to scream it at me as I plowed her driveway. Yes, of course information management techniques were on full display here; they were aimed at her and they'll work again next time too. There are courses in such things and next time there will be more Nancys than before and the damage will be greater. I foolishly expected a bit more from the constitutional safe guards in place to protect me from Nancy's government. Turns out her government doesn't even have to defend its actions now, Nancy does that for them. Nancy's preferred destination. Giving her the benefit of the doubt and defending her here is kind, actually I admire the sentiment and even shared it a short time ago. But Nancy's new religion is dangerous and she's gained a lot of traction in the neighbourhood. If she agrees to keep the "Church of Absurdity" on her own property then we can be friends again, but given the quote above, I don't think you're convinced she will either.

Charging them with solving problems is a very different thing than empowering them to do so. You can mandate whatever you want to the managers, but if they're not empowered to get it done and they're cucked from the start by a sweetheart CBA deal, they're nothing more than frustrated talking heads. There are horrible managers everywhere. I suspect even more so in the public sector than in the private, with much of it having to do with what's described above. Trying to motivate and get the most out of people who have no incentive to do anything but the literal bare minimum is a Sysyphean task that most ambitious and capable people would avoid. Creativity isn't required for uncomplicated problems. Messaging and getting the public on your side is more important. It's not like disgruntled public sector unions are going to perform their jobs worse than fat and coddled ones. Mike Harris and Jean Chretien were able to bring things back on-side. Though painful, it was necessary, and only made that way by the pandering largesse of previous governments. Our CBA dealings with public sector unions need to be in-line with supply for workers. If we're short on nurses, sweeten the deal. That's how it should work, but it's not how it is. Overall, the public sector has near-zero vacancy despite its ballooning size whilst the private sector has spent the last couple years struggling to find workers. That tells us everything we need to know.

The latest research suggests that it isn't.

When I say "folks" I am including government. I will say that it is amazing how the most ordinary of folks (on both sides) instantly became epidemiologists and doctors. They went from not knowing what the nucleus of a cell is to being lifetime experts. I have no respect or patience for faux experts. I am not a doctor and will own up to it. Now...if we are talking R or Python scripting, then sure I will tout myself.

Says the guy who can barely concede even the merest aspects of a point. Your fragility makes Donald Trump look like the rock of Gibraltar - you're like wet tissue paper in comparison.

Thanks for the civil response. No one in my family/friends/work circle suffered any ill effects. Some got vaxxed and some did not but there were no horror stories. My overall view of the situation is that most folks overreacted. I had covid twice. Once pre-vax and once after. Neither time was that terrible. Yes, some contracted it and it was not fun but I was never convinced that it was worse than the flu or other ailments. Six months after having covid the first time.. I had shingles and well that was considerably worse than covid.

I posted about how at least governments are putting this topic behind them and it led to a mostly pointless back and forth. I work for a state government and semi-regularly meet with our governor in NV. In the past 9 months, he has made it clear that he addressed the topic and does not want to rehash it. Whether or not, someone should brush it aside is up to the person. My point is not about what it should be but rather what is.

You didn't make any points. It was just verbal diarrhea, like 90% of your posts. Thankfully, your ranting and worthless nattering comes with a warning label: compulsive every sentence. That means you're having another seizure or something, and thus the substance of your post is nothing more than:

and yet you do respond... there is a reason why. You will never admit to it.

That's right where you always are: just responding to on-topic comments with general BS and childishness. You do the same thing as Ex-Flyer. You comment on every post with vague, off-topic, childish insults instead of responding to the actual subject matter. Then you get butthurt when people point out that you never actually said anything worth responding to.

I do the same thing.. I know that a certain someone can't help himself. He can't respond and not have it be full of insults, personal attacks, and loaded assumptions. He still insists that I watch CNN religiously and every time I correct him. He has watched infinitely more CNN than I ever have but simple minds make assumptions. It is easier to only consider one data point, one view than to be realistic and look at the actual more complex picture.

Because not all Republicans are created equal. Many have the same look and feel as democrats. The key is to get Trump back into the WH where he can easily tell the border erasers to f*ck off.

Okee dokee.

Hmm… if the legislation was “trash,” then why did the Republicans write it? Why didn’t they amend it?

Erm.....for the reasons I gave in the post, via that new guy's comments about Nancy. Still having trouble with reading comprehension, I see. Nothing in my post was directed at you personally ( did you see yourself personally tagged or anything....??), so.....Nope. Not important to me what you care about or not.

Amazing how some went from **clutches pearls** "If even one life is saved, than forcing people to accept an experimental medical procedure is fine" .....to..... "Some children will be killed or permanently disabled, but... 🤷‍♂️ meh 🤷‍♂️...who cares?"

That has been my stance since the beginning. When someone would say, " I am not going to get the vax", my reply was "ok". I could not care less if someone was vaxxed or not. No guilt or shaming on my part. I only did it because I did not want to fill out paperwork. No passion, fervor, etc on my part.

Some of us think killing and maiming children so 97-year-olds can have a couple extra months is what is completely insane. And frankly, most 97-year-olds would not want that either, had they been told the truth. In medical ethics there is a cost/benefit analysis involving the calculating of years of life lost: Years of life lost due to premature mortality (YLLs) Years lived with disability (YLDs) Disability‐adjusted life years (DALYs) But we threw out medical ethics for this virus, along with basic immunology, virology and science.

I look at people differently now, too. Those who cheered on job firings, social shunning/ jailing of the unjabbed, forced medical experimentation, mandates and removal of human rights - are pure evil. Those who knew it was wrong and stayed silent - pathetically weak.

These are the very reasons why some of us will not "just move on" and forget about it. It's not to set "Nancy" straight - there's no helping Nancy see the truth. It's to help the ones who were on the fence and just went along with insanity "to get along", but felt in their souls that something was just not right with everything happening. We are at the intersection of Milgram and Ashe.

Are you able to make any arguments that aren't logical fallacies?

It's not irony - it's calculated. The left thrives on the 'intersectional coalition' concept - where they pick people they can CONVINCE that they're weak and then co-opt their cause and mash it into one big ball and attack the gov't and the 'settlers' with it. This is the moral and ethical euqivilant of trying to make a bar of soap by pressing a bunch of left over soap bar slivers together. And it has nothing to do with the needs or the rights of the groups they co opt.

That's right except for the implication we're unsympathetic monsters who cheer everytime the exceedingly rare jab goes sideways somewhere. But you're suggesting you're okay with millions dying from disease to ensure no one ever dies from vaccine? You're completely insane.

I think even the most drug addicted, low self esteem, desperately looking for any kind of acceptance, really have nothing else to live for, low iq trailer trash ho would probably still think "Meh, i can do better."

Like a David Koresh, maybe. He seems to be the type that cultist hoes would flock to.

Yea. Get out. Beat it. We don't like you we don't want you. -the west. There's your new arrangement We cancel your citizenships, you are treated like any other country and need passports to enter etc. I woudln't want to guarantee there won't be tarrifs ether. And we can finally cancel french as a second language in the rest of the country but you'll still have to provide english to sell your goods and services here, Oh - and that trade deal the province of quebec has for newfoundland's power? Yeah - that's done. Fack off. The vote can't happen fast enough - get lost. Be thankful they never let US vote on a referendum about whether you should stay or not. And with you gone the balance of power politically shifts largely to the west. I'm fine with that.

And brags about how he picks up endless groupies becasue he's a genius I bet he screams at his mom till she goes to starbucks and buys one for him.

https://armscontrolcenter.org/fact-sheet-u-s-nuclear-weapons-in-europe/ NATO is not a country, it is barely a political entity. It is a group of independent countries that have committed themselves to defend each other if one of them is attacked from the outside. THAT'S ALL. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm Article 1. The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations. No there isn't because Russia invaded its neighbour and is trying to take half its territory if not the whole thing. Nothing to do with left or right, everything to do with right an wrong. Putin is using the same game plan as Hitler did to annex Austria and Czechoslovakia and attack Poland and you id*iots lap it up. Cicero

1. Question from 3 hours ago: "Do you seriously think just restructuring a failing health care system would fix the problems?" Question from 11 minutes ago: "The government and health authorities have had years to re-structure the system and don't appear to have done so. So why would they change now?" Can you not see how these are different questions ? Are you the kind of person who hates being questioned and/or corrected ? 2. You can ask that directly. I think that we would do well with two-tier if we had a public more akin to France's with respect to inspecting/monitoring services. 3. There's restructuring and then there's RESTRUCTURING. 4. And thanks for yours too. Believe it or not, I think we're more close than apart on these things. 5. Yes, I think people should be fired for not doing their jobs. I also think culture makes workplaces terrible and that's the hardest thing to fix. A manager who has only worked in a bad environment can't be expected to fix things on their own. Working productively and challenging yourself can be fun - whether there are unions there or not. I could run a team with union members, and have revived the careers of more than one so-called useless employee. ----- Religious rant: Despite what the unions say, people want to work. And if you provide a good environment you will get good results. Money actually adds fog to the issue as you end up getting people who hate their jobs but can't quit. The best thing that happened to my general happiness was when my field (IT) got globalized and I went from making 6 figures as a young man to not being able to find clients. This happened years before the web became a thing... Eventually "the market" found me again and I work to better myself and make the environment challenging and productive. If it turns bad, I can quit and get a new job right away.

1. My guinea pig is a liberal Jew.

Under lock down where they couldn't shoot down school kids and wealthy with govt handouts and nowhere to go spend it. Like surrendering Afghanistan and blaming the fallout on Biden. Like kissing dictator's asses rather than confronting them. Forgetting in spite of all the hot air that every single new US car model went to Mexico. That he set the ground for 1/2 the US population to be told what they could do with their own bodies. What a selective memory, Mr. Putin's lackey.

And I would say this is the case at the provincial and municipal and school board levels, too. We are drowning in bureaucracy and are so over-regulated it takes forever to get anything done at any level and usually winds up costing twice as much as it should. Why do the heads of hospitals, colleges and universities earn such high salaries? These are not specialized jobs that require massive education and experience. The head of one of Ottawa's hospitals was a former municipal councilor. The head of the University of Ottawa was the minister of Justice before being appointed to the job. If politicians can do it then why are the salaries approaching half a million a year, or in some cases passing that mark? Because when the boss makes $500k, the deputies have to be making close to $400k right? And then everyone around them gets slightly less munificent salaries. How many non-teachers at universities are pulling in considerably more than $100k? The administrative ranks have exploded at post-secondary institutions. And I see far too many at school boards, too. We need a guy with something like a hard-assed Mike Harris mentality that will go in and start laying people off and freezing promotions and hiring. Not to mention eliminating all those high-priced consultants.

Uh huh. I see. Soooo.... cough syrup. I know you think it tastes great, but as I've mentioned before you're not supposed to drink the whole bottle. Why? When you catch them doing bad things you still vote for them. So obviosuly it's not that you care about corruption or the like - you vote for it even tho you see it.

I thought they were talking about Margie Novera ? I dated her briefly in 8th grade but she broke up with me when I put gum in her hair.

so you mean Biden could be losing EVEN WORSE!!! Good point .

Chew on this for just a second.. If I give a healthy person not in dire need of surgery $250,000, what will they buy? Housing, cars, consumption goods, food, etc. Will they spend their money on health care? Unlikely. We mostly are trying to avoid spending money on health care. It is not really a "good".. because increases in income do not result in predictable increases in health care spending.

Not really - it might look that way at a glance but when you actualy add them up it's about right. Again - there can be no formal 'federal to municiple infrastructure" because the cities have no power constitutionally. The feds can make agreements with cities to a very limited degree, but even then they have to be careful or they're going to wind up being fiscally responsible for what cities are now. I see where you were going with it - it does make sense at first blush and there IS in fact a LITTLE of that which goes on so it's not impossible but the feds do NOT generally speaking want anything to do with having to fund specific cities where they could wind up stuck with it or on the butt end of a lawsuit saying ALL cities should have gotten it. And you missed the REAL Target. They're not interested in the cities. They want to go to the people directly. Look what they're doing - "hey - if the carbon tax goes no more refund cheque and you'll starve". They literally took people's money away - and gave some of it back (and pocketed the rest) and tried to convince people that they were "giving" them something they need which will be taken away from them. They want to make people dependent on hand outs and gov't housing and all of that - so they can threaten that it'll all be taken away if conservatives ever get in. They want to control or have a hand in your daycare, your medicare, your refund checks and child benefits, etc etc. They want you to think of THEM as being the only reason you can survive. Providing for a person's every need is the surest way to enslave them. THAT is their end goal.

Lmao Classic.

The so called massive attack did not cause civilian lives except one Muslim child so restraint by Israel is hoped for to prevent an out of controlled regional war. The made in Islamic Republic missiles and drones were shot down like toys A massive Israeli retaliation will cause many Iranian civilian lives most of whom are currently friendly towards West. It was the Islamic regime and the terrorist IRGC who attacked Israel and the retaliation must be proportionate and on IRGC targets not defenseless civilians.

Trump supposedly demanded to be taken to the Capitol building on Jan 6th but meekly acquiesced to his "handlers" insisting it wasn't safe and was taken to the WH instead. If he'd really have wanted to go to the Capitol, he could have gotten out and WALKED. j/k Trump never walks ANYWHERE. LMAO.

The Orange Surrender Monkey will appease you away from war.

Dude - EVERYONE thinks you're a m0ron. You post ass porn when you can't win an argument. You make dumb ass statements that are so easy to refute that 7 year olds wonder if perhaps you should be held back a year. You behave like a child and you make arguments like one as well. I tried to tell you - you're not looking good with your antics. I mean they're hilarious - but they don't make you look terribly mature What is that now like five people recently other than me who've pointed it out? Sigh. Well at least you're amusing

Fair enough, but ridicule the legitimate concerns of others with a weather eye on karma... and I'm speaking generally here, not accusing you of anything. In the fullness of time people who do that may see their own concerns trampled like old ladies under an RCMP horse. I'd suggest that the effect here is to push moderate people who populate the centre (dare I say like me) into an unapologetic hard right turn. A short sighted tactic born of overconfidence and complacency IMO that fails to anticipate future political shoe exchanges whilst ridiculing cobblers. I predict blisters on the horizon. Bill articulates the whole thing pretty well. If you look back at some of the comments here and listen closely to what he says, you'll see where the "vote em out and crush em" sentiment comes from. If you're one of those who thinks this is off topic then please beware of horses:

I think your not listening to the facts, nor are you willing to look up the facts for yourself.. I respond becasue i think your conversations are interesting, but frustrating at times. Leave ancient european history in the past, it's not coming back, today according many smart people in NATO, most countries foreign affairs departments , any western intelligence agency if ask who was the new emerging threat all would tell you it is China, with Russia in second place only due to nukes...as an example look at the US marine corp is changing it's tactics and equipment to be better suited for island hopping, not the european plains because of china, a lot of funding is being spent to meet these goals...so it is not on a whim and pray...5 eyes and UK,A,US are defensive agreements for the pacific, that includes a large chunk of NATO fleet as well...all of this points to the pacific as the new problem for the world...

There are two types of people in the world, those who are of God and those who aren't.

Neat…. More COVID conspiracies. Leave it to @Goddess…. You’re not as good at it.