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What low level of support, Can you give a cite? Here's one from me. 46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy Global News, Posted February 11, 2022 An Ipsos poll published Thursday and conducted exclusively for Global News showed that nearly 46 per cent of Canadians say they “may not agree with everything” the trucker convoy says or does, but the frustration of protesters is “legitimate and worthy” of sympathy. This sympathy has risen to 61 per cent particularly among Canadians aged 18 to 34, according to the poll. Looks like pretty good support. it makes sense that Canadians wold feel this way. Turdeau has done nothing to try and calm the situation, only fanned the flames with his dismissive, divisive comments. Canadians are taking note. (see poll)

I’ve never seen anything like this in Canada. Alarms sounding among our veterans.

Yea needing to prove vaccination to go to a theatre creeped the hell out of me. I was already vaccinated at the time and wanted no part of that. The modern equivalent to 'your papers, please'. The protest should be framed not as left vs right but as authoritarism vs libertarianism. The woke left professes to be on the side of LGBT such as myself, but they are not. Authoritarianism leads to totalitarianism which is horrible for everyone, especially minorities.

Nobody, however, made these rules G-d. As Myata said in Post 143 (link): The governments should be made to remember that they work for us. We don't work for them. The Covid emergency seems to have given government leaders the world around the belief that they could invoke the talisman "Covid" and order everyone around.

Funny from past protests I thought conservatives were strongly opposed to protests that damaged the economy and put people out of work. I guess that’s only if the protesters are non white or something. Now they love them all of a sudden. Funny how things change.

Of course...the protests are meant to be as disruptive as possible, using the same methods espoused by the left for their own "social justice" causes. Without disruption and economic pain points the message and focus is quickly lost, and no substantive change follows. "This is what democracy looks like".

In the words of many on here "actions have consequences". As Ontario has put the creepy little bastard in charge of things, and have insisted that you shouldn't be able to stay employed without a vaccine, they can reap the consequences of having a major trade route disrupted. Even if the blockade comes down, it's still heavily blocked on the US side so good luck.

Protesting doesn't give you license to break any laws you choose.

It was not peaceful. They were hurting fellow Canadians. Hundreds of thousands of their fellow Canadians lost their jobs as a result of just one week blockade. A peaceful protest is to gather somewhere for a limited time, say what they wish to say and then LEAVE. This was not peaceful by any measure.

Maybe going deep into what they are doing is not much helpful in answering the essential question: are mandates justified? Vaccines can be of help to many, no question. But are broad mandates, outside of very specific environments and professions a) justified and b) imposed in a due process? The second one is a clear no. There's no process for as much as anyone can tell. Someone in the back room jumps waves hands and that has to be the process. For the a), we need further answers: - Are they proportional to the problem? (we did not have mandates against flu and similar): no - Are they sufficiently effective in preventing the spread? (this relates to protection of others, rather than individual choice): not after a short period. - Are they necessary? (the only way to achieve the desired effect): no. There are jurisdictions, many of them that never had mandates. - Is there a clear process that allows to evaluate solutions by these criteria objectively and transparently: none (in two years and counting). Conclusion: mandates are not justified and were not imposed in a due process, objective and transparent to the society. This is an overreach and an arbitrary application of authority. Someone has to answer for this. Checks have to be designed and placed into the system to prevent from this happening again.

So what? Most Canadians are white. It doesn’t make the protesters racist or privileged, and there’s a wide range of cultures and races in the protests. What sucky woke bullshit.

They're indiscernable from the Liberals now. Might as well merge parties. Sad to see, NDP used to be a worker's party that I could support. They're nothing like that anymore.

The world you are building.

You’re a fascist. No one should have to get vaccinated to be able to go to a restaurant, travel by train or plane between provinces, get back into their own country, or be employed. It’s anti-freedom, unconstitutional, against basic human rights, and certainly evil if you believe in God. We’re free before we’re vaccinated, not afterwards. You shouldn’t be barred from travel because you didn’t download an app. So what, if you’re elderly and can’t work a cell phone or poor and don’t have one, sucks to be you? If you have a big family and modest income the costs of testing are outrageous and if you test positive you can lose your job. Creepy fascist policies. Our government oppresses its own people.

So get lost, you've made it very clear you don't give a crap about this one.

Nonsense. We had a guy by the name of Tristan Durocher travel 600km on foot, pitch a teepee and bring attention to suicides in the north. What did our politicians do? Same thing they are doing now. Filing an injunction to have him removed from his Parliment building and called him all sorts of names.

Hence my response to myata. You have no one to blame but yourselves for having merely warned us for decades about the commie fascist Nazi's under our beds.

All I can say is that if those patriotic truckers lose their battle against Marxist Trudeau, that system could be implemented and businesses would be forced to comply or go to jail or lose their business licence. We are not living in a free country anymore. Canada has become pretty much a Marxist state. We all need those truckers to win this battle against Marxist Trudeau or else. Our freedom and rights depend on that win. The political elite class in this country are now trying very hard to end this trucker protest by trying to force the truckers to call off their protest or face serious fines or imprisonment. ?

Bla Bla Bla. There is sure a shortage of good faith on your part. All you do is whine and complain with nothing else to offer.

Maybe you'd like to join the fight, get told you'lll face $100k in fines and 1 year in jail. Lose your rights to travel to the USA, and a criminal record. That is what you call exceedingly visceral and overly punitive measures. Let's hope it really backfires right in old PM Blackface's face.

The social credit system in China is a system where everything people do that kind of breaks any rules, regulations or laws will effect their credit rating. The more points one gets against themselves the less chance that they will be able to live a normal life. Kind of what covid has been doing to us all for the past two years now. Not vaccinated, no indoor eating in restaurants for you, peasants. I know that Marxist Trudeau would love to implement that kind of social credit like system here in Canada. How an immature young punk like Trudeau ever got his old PM job back was incredible. The election had to be fixed or the only people that voted were all Trudeau supporters. ?

Every day that Trudeau acts like a fascist dictator is going to cost him dearly. Only Trudeau cultists and commies who want tanks to crush fellow Canadians will be left defending him. Support is shedding daily as people ask themselves who is the baddie?...

Little does Blackbird realize that he is supporting global great reset communism. This was never about a virus at all but it was more about trying to push big pharma vaccines and to take control and power over we the peasants. It is for sure that once we can get rid of all of these draconian covid mandates we will gain our rights and freedoms back. This will never get done until that dictator Trudeau either gives up his dictatorship or gets fired. Either one will work for me. ?

Truckers demands: 1) Terminate vaccine passports 2) Terminate vaccine mandates 3) End divisive rhetoric Nothing there about "overthrowing the government", although it's not a bad idea in principle. I would add: 4) Dismiss Trudeua

Brilliant and touching. Yet now people are talking about terms used in that clip and the "context". To them I say, 'Get a grip on reality'. The meaning of the vet's statement is crystal clear. It's a call for support for the cause of the convoy...Freedom. not a single word about "violence". Stop trying to twist this touching and positive plea for support...into something sinister.

OK I have no depth to comment further on the statement but probably such a clarification would be useful. I can't imagine though that folks wouldn't reflect on it before going and if they choose to.

Historically when this happens it leads to violence. Let's hope it doesn't get to that point but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it did. You can only whip the dog so long until it bites back

most of the BLM and antifa protestors are white too dummy

Gigantic freedom party in Ottawa.

Yep....Canadian media seems to have a very short memory when it comes to the name Trudeau:

As a con i am not for this at all. This does nothing.

Only 36% of Gen Z & Millennials trust the mainstream media as per a recent Leger poll. That's a really bad score. What is the cause of MSM quality going down? Is it because they feel the need to sensationalize for the Internet audience? Or are they captive to government funding? Or are they overloaded with too many left to extreme-left journalists to have a balanced view? All of these to some degree, or something else? It's not easy to tell looking from the outside, but for sure it's ailing.

MP Jagmeet Singh and the NDP party want you to hate white people. They want you to believe that whites are racist, hateful, and dangerous. Their latest propoganda scam is Bill C-229. As per the ndp's website: "This bill is designed to make people believe that white Canadians are racist and dangerous. The proposed bill asks to make symbols associated with the KKK, the Nazis, and the Confederate flag banned in Canada for selling and displaying. " The NDP claims that: "Bill C-229 is a tool designed to address the growing violence and hatred in Canadian communities." Of course there is no evidence to support the claim of any rising hatred in Canada. In fact, Canada remains a very welcoming and tolerant country. One of the greatest countries and best places to live in the history of humanity. Free health care to all sounds racist? Free housing and welfare to the poor regardless of race? Many newcomer programs to support immigrants from all countries is evidence of the contrary. MP Singh will be quick to cite the Quebec Mosque shooting as " evidence " of Canadians as evil racists; however, that was an isolated incident unrelated to any organization or movement. The tragedy was more likely related to mental health issues than evidence of a Canada wide problem. This bill is consistent with the NDP's agenda to promote the idea that Canadian whites are racist and a grave threat to the nation. You will remember MP Singh proposing that the Proud Boys be labelled a domestic terrorist group. This was based on no evidence of any criminal activity by the PB's in Canada. Just more race baiting hysteria by the left wing hate group, the NDP who believes CNN that the Proud Boys, with a Black leader, is a white supremacist organization. Look up Enrique Tarrio before you believe the PB's are Nazis. It starts at 4:10. At 5 :20, he makes unsubstantiated claims that white supremacists killed people on January 6th and these people are a threat in Canada too. By the way, which Proud Boy killed someone on January 6th? More fake news by Jagmeet spreading anti white lies. MP Singh claims white supremacists are a " real and urgent threat " in Canada. This is hate propoganda. Every Canadian should be outraged and insulted by Bill C 229. The KKK is a problem in Canada? How is this not absurd to any reasonably person? Name one crime linked to the KKK in Canada. Ever. The Nazi symbol. Canadians defeated the Nazis. Gave their lives to stop them and now Jagmeet comes along and suggests the people that defeated the Nazis are so evil and dangerous that laws are required to stop our love for Nazism. Give me a break. This is nonsense and simply an effort to make people hate whites by associating them with Nazis. The Confederate flag? How is a flag racist? People will argue both sides of this debate but no argument outweighs the Charter right to freedom of expression and the Confederate flag may mean many different things to many different people. Why is NDP so eager to ban groups and symbols? Didn't the Nazis love doing that? MP Singh is quiet when police, like Officer Northrup, are killed in the line of duty. His response to the alleged car attack in London is far different than the Danforth shooting. He is silent on the anniversary of Corporal Nathan Cirillo. He expressed no concern for Annie Chiu when Saad Akhtar killed her with a hammer in an act of domestic terror. There are hundreds of examples of gun crime and gang activity taking innocent lives across the country. Jagmeet....crickets... Compare gang shootings to the Quebec Mosque shooting. What does the evidence show about the real threat to security? No one wants to discuss that. Sorry. A person attacks protesters in Winnepeg with a jeep? Oh, not white? Indigenous? No comment. The list goes on. See a pattern? MP Singh only cares about crimes when the accused is white. If anyone questions the existence of " systemic racism" , MP Singh calls them a racist and so everyone plays along. His take on the truckers is beyond laughable: Singh; " It is clear that this is not a protest; this is an act to try to overthrow the government, and it is getting funded by foreign interference and we need to investigate and stop that – stop the flow of that foreign interference, particularly coming from the [United] States,” said Singh, whose party has the fourth-most seats in the House of Commons." Questions for Jagmeet...name one law in Canada that is racist??? A single one? Nothing? If systemic racism is real. How did you become a lawyer and leader of the NDP if the system is against you? By the way, Systemic racism was debunked in this article: Why are you raising your son in Canada? Are you not afraid of the KKK attacking him? What about the systemic racism??? Politicians and the media will sing along to the chorus of white Canadians as racist. Ask those at the freedom convoy. Ask Jacob Panetta. The anti white bill will be passed. People will feel vindicated that their fears of the KKK and Nazi groups being alive and well in Canada are real. Singh's message of "Whites want to kill non-whites as the KKk did in the South 100 years ago" will resonate with those living in Victim mode. This psychosis amongst so many will swell. More groups will be labelled as " white supremacist organizations " and banned as terror groups. New laws will be passed legalizing anti white discrimination and no one will do anything lest they be canceled as a racist. MP Singh will continue his racist, non factual rhetoric such as: "Radicalized white supremacists, neo-Nazis, the alt-right have resulted in the deaths of people,” he said, highlighting the threat to Canada’s Muslim, Jewish, Sikh and racialized communities. “Mothers talk to me of the fear they have for their kids going out into the community, worried about the violence they might face." Well done, Jagmeet. Your plan of hate is very effective. But, Canadians are not racist. We, of all colours, are warm, welcoming, tolerant people. You might not like white people but they did build the country you live in and where you want to raise your son. You could live anywhere in the world but you choose Canada because of how great Canadians are. One day someone will call out the emperor as naked, not wearing beautiful garb and your hateful lies will be exposed.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/indigenous-woman-yells-i-hate-white-people-before-punching-white-woman-but-its-not-a-hate-crime-judge-rules Hatred is a growing trend if you consider BLM/CNN/CTV/CBC/Goebbels' News disinformation and hate speech, Trudeau's hate speech and his denial of genocide, Jagmeet Singh's ties to terrorism and his hate speech, etc. Do you want to talk about those things or is that verboten? Anyone who thinks that Canada is intolerant or that white people here are racists is just purely ignorant, stupid in general, and needs to open a history book or travel the world. You mean mainstream media. Try this on for size: Is that hate speech? What about this: How is it that our MSM missed that hate speech? https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-justin-trudeaus-blind-hatred-of-anti-vaxxers What do you think of Trudeau's hate speech? What do you think of Jagmeet Singh's hate speech: Wake up Jagmeet, we've had way more than one muslim terrorist attack here. Do you speak out on every single anniversary? Nope. Where's the proof of this? I have way more proof of Jagmeet's terrorist ties than he ever supplied about that shitshow comment. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the cat's got your tongue. You got nothin' as always.

I don’t know. He’s too powerful and entrenched, with his family name. Perfect example why no man should be elected when they come from a powerful political dynasty. There should be democratic limitations on PM’s power. Exactly why we need a president, alongside the PM who has certain authority, not just one man. Sorry, idiot savant boy king. Who sucks at boxing, too.

99% of people in NA don't understand Russia's geopolitical situation because USMCA are so chummy as neighbours, and we've got vast oceans between us and the rest of the world. Canada is the second-largest country in the world and Russia is almost twice as big. They have 11 time zones and about 12 int'l borders including China, NoKo, some Stans, etc. They're surrounded by a lot of countries which have long histories of being involved in wars of conquest. They don't want NATO right on their border, period. Finland hasn't applied to join NATO for decades for that exact reason. Mongolia has also been considered a 'buffer zone' country as well. Russia isn't isolated like the US. They can't afford to fuck around. They have to play chess 24/7.

Jail is where they belong.

The injunction has been granted and the time for leaving the Ambassador bridge was 7PM EST. The protesters said they are going to join hands and not leave. Penalty if charged and convicted is one year in prison and $100,000 fine. Time's up. Mob mentality has taken over.

It is time for law and order to be restored. Various governments must stop passing the balls to each other and get on with the job of restoring law and order. They are so openly breaking the law, occupying the Capital, blockading vital bridges, putting hundreds of thousands of Canadians out of work, funded by foreign saboteurs, disrupting the country. My message to Liberal government is STOP being so Liberal. Enforce the damn law.

Troll

??? I thought we were talking about racism? The fact someone virtually spit on has you so triggered is hilarious.

Well I am sure you watch the TV I do. The actress who questioned whether trans should be in female sports, was laid off by Disney. The left is after Joe Rogan for having wrong opinions on COVID. Yeah, so someone "spit" online. That is NOT cancel culture. I think you know what cancel culture is though. Its a movement among mostly the left to get people with varying opinions punished for them - by getting them fired mostly.

Then what are you talking about? Of course commerce with Russia will continue. But we have something they want. Our Northern Passage from Europe to the East. If there's anything Russia wants from us, it's that. I notice most of NATO has no desire for conflict with Russia. Britain, Germany and others have too much commerce with them. I'll keep saying this till it's too late but...the USA needs to stay out of this thing with Ukraine. The way I understand it, Bush Senior made a deal with Russia about NATO expansion and promptly broke it years ago. I predict a bunch of Biden Bull, followed by a whimper and...nothing.

I'm saddened the Canadian courts haven't had more to say about civil rights through the pandemic. It's like they all just shut down with COVID as the excuse. Even the Nazis let the Jews emigrate (if you weren't rounded up first). What happened to the Charter? "Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada"

I am I suppose. But as most of them are - it's in plain day. No need to ask if Bill Gates owns Facebook and Pfizer etc. etc. People like the truckers and give them money. 17% of Canadians support the truckers. If there are really 400 of them then the GoFundMe lady should just split the money.

Pretty much. It's sort of hard here because they drown the forum in banal ranting but maybe they'll tire themselves out.

They would replace it with a retarded YouTube channel spouting stuff that agrees with them. And don't think they wouldn't censor. I got kicked off my Yellow Vests groups because the sensitives got easily offended when I would challenge them on the lies from Quiggin et. al. We should just agree that the new populist movement is unworthy of saving and start ignoring them...

1. Yeah, I think the rest of us 'got' that 2. The cat is out of the bag on this - 88.36% of Canadians who are eligible have received at least one dose: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ 3. You get vaccinated pretty much from birth in this country and given the stat I provided in (2) above you are asking to turn back tie. 4. I am telling people instead to sound off to their misinformed and conspiracy-inclined friends and relatives so they know how crazy they sound.

The reason Free Speech is desirable is that the public is supposed to be able to discern between bad and good ideas, and discuss them honestly and in good faith. We now have a new cult of bad actors who defend each other and sanction absolute lies by posting aboutt mainstream media and accusing them of doing what they actually do. These people live among us - we all know them. Anonymous message boards are fine, but we have to start calling them out in real life. Hopefully the true Conservative party will start to see this toxic fringe for what it is.

This is my worry with my sister. There are days she's in so much pain, she feels like she can't go on. It will be a year this June since the shots. She has access to enough pills to do it, from a previous motorcycle accident. I worry every day I have to go to work.