Army Guy Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 13 hours ago, eyeball said: How it works is that all a referendum does is trigger constitutional negotiations. I bet three quarters of us in this forum will be long since dead of old age before they ever get close to concluding those. Then it'll all have to go back to court. Sure but do you think the population is going to wait years for all this haggling to finish...No they are not going to wait years....there will be protests , which will turn violent and grow from there...The world is full of examples of separations turned violent...in fact very few do not turn violent...who is going to control all of that....think the convoy was bad... the Army, is not large enough to control any of that... And then there is the question of will Alberta be the only one to separate...What about all those western provinces that talked about leaving, everyone knows they have been talking about this for years....what if they decide to leave as well, they after all hold most of Canada's riches........think Quebec will not take advantage of all this, and hold there own referendum... every province that does decide to leave, sees Ottawa's control diminish, i mean what's left Ontario and the Maritimes.. You guys think that this is not going to happen, and yet there are more and more people talking bout separation, not just in the west, but almost every province...they may be small groups now but they are getting larger by the day....so anything is possible....and once it starts it will snowball... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Sure but do you think the population is going to wait years for all this haggling to finish...No they are not going to wait years....there will be protests , which will turn violent and grow from there... Or...people will tire of it as life continues pressing in around them. Priorities and feelings will change. No one is being violently oppressed or forced to stay. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You guys think that this is not going to happen, and yet there are more and more people talking bout separation, not just in the west, but almost every province...they may be small groups now but they are getting larger by the day....so anything is possible....and once it starts it will snowball... If you recall, I expressed pretty strong feelings about BC separating 20 - 25 years ago. My sentiments were fuelled by years of experiencing dodgy fisheries management and eventual loss of an entire industry now evidenced by a coastline strewn with abandoned boats and old fish plants and lingering ill feelings towards Ottawa. Its exhausting trying to maintain the grievances at your base of desire. After awhile it starts to feel more like vindictiveness and spite and life's just to short and its like dragging old regrets around ...nothing good comes of it. Everything feels like an uphill struggle As years go by I look around the world and I can see it's much the same everywhere similar separatist sentiments get stirred up. It's also true that once separate the separated eventually start looking for new partners to join with. Again, being forced to submit violently would obviously be quite different. Rinse and repeat... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: How does this relate to this conversation, there is a clear path to separation laid out by the courts of Canada....it lays out the process to start and finish negotiations to separate.... You must have read it in order to find that tidbit of info... Well.... I suspect you're referring to the Clarity Act which came about after a court case involving Quebec separation. It doesn't actually say that the negotiations must end in separation. It just says that the government must enter into good faith negotiations It further stipulates that those negotiations are tempered by the nature of the vote. Factors like how clear the question was, whether it was a clear majority whatever the hell that means, voter turnout, and another bunch of factors. So what would be more accurate from a legal point of view to say that there's a clear path to addressing the constitutional crisis but if negotiations did finalize with Alberta leaving then it would actually require an amendment to the constitution and that follows the same old 7/50 law Where seven out of the 10 provinces representing at least 50% of the population would have to agree to it. Otherwise it's just a rebellion, although that certainly does have a long and well-established legal history to it as well Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted February 8 Author Report Posted February 8 The federal government should pass a law making it illegal for provinces to hold referenda on independence. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 51 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: The federal government should pass a law making it illegal for provinces to hold referenda on independence. It's always hilarious to watch the left, whenever they see something they don't like they immediately jump to tyranny and repression as the solution. But suggest that people should use their biological washroom and they lose their god damn minds 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 On 2/8/2026 at 2:42 PM, eyeball said: Or...people will tire of it as life continues pressing in around them. Priorities and feelings will change. No one is being violently oppressed or forced to stay. If you recall, I expressed pretty strong feelings about BC separating 20 - 25 years ago. My sentiments were fuelled by years of experiencing dodgy fisheries management and eventual loss of an entire industry now evidenced by a coastline strewn with abandoned boats and old fish plants and lingering ill feelings towards Ottawa. Its exhausting trying to maintain the grievances at your base of desire. After awhile it starts to feel more like vindictiveness and spite and life's just to short and its like dragging old regrets around ...nothing good comes of it. Everything feels like an uphill struggle As years go by I look around the world and I can see it's much the same everywhere similar separatist sentiments get stirred up. It's also true that once separate the separated eventually start looking for new partners to join with. Again, being forced to submit violently would obviously be quite different. Rinse and repeat... That's what you hope will happen, but if you take a look at the countries around the world that have separated most end in extreme violence...very few have successfully done it without violence, i spent a good amount of my career in those countries A perfect example would be former Yugoslavia... ....thinking Canada is above all of that is just silly. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 16 hours ago, Army Guy said: That's what you hope will happen, but if you take a look at the countries around the world that have separated most end in extreme violence...very few have successfully done it without violence, i spent a good amount of my career in those countries A perfect example would be former Yugoslavia... ....thinking Canada is above all of that is just silly. Why are you cheerleading an Alberta revolt then? Quote
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Why are you cheerleading an Alberta revolt then? Why are you against Alberta leaving? The rest of Canada HATES Alberta with a burning rage that borders on mental illness. They don't want our resources, they DETEST our way of life. You should be THRILLED to see us go. What the hell is the problem? Edited February 18 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Army Guy Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 43 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Why are you cheerleading an Alberta revolt then? I'm not cheerleading anything, just looking at the issue from a reality perspective, everyone seems fine with the direction the country is going , while others like Alberta , Quebec are screaming their heads off, while the government is doing what most are doing, sticking their heads in the sand and pretending nothing is going to happen...Carney promised a lot of things during the election, and it seems he can not really deliver on the things that mean the most...which is just driving the wedge deeper and growing these groups like cancer.. And "IF" they continue to grow at this rate what do you think will happen to basic government services, like CPP, OAS, federal government pensions, the list goes on and on...And nobody can tell me that the people will react like good Canadians and take stuff in stride...not Albertans, not indigenous peoples, certainly not the ROC....everyone wanting something different, how do you see it going....then how do you see it going when say the western provinces join in, then Quebec.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Chrissy1979 Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 46 minutes ago, Goddess said: Why are you against Alberta leaving? The rest of Canada HATES Alberta with a burning rage that borders on mental illness. They don't want our resources, they DETEST our way of life. You should be THRILLED to see us go. What the hell is the problem? So at what point did you lose your mind? On 2/8/2026 at 10:35 AM, Army Guy said: Sure but do you think the population is going to wait years for all this haggling to finish...No they are not going to wait years....there will be protests , which will turn violent and grow from there...The world is full of examples of separations turned violent...in fact very few do not turn violent...who is going to control all of that....think the convoy was bad... the Army, is not large enough to control any of that... And then there is the question of will Alberta be the only one to separate...What about all those western provinces that talked about leaving, everyone knows they have been talking about this for years....what if they decide to leave as well, they after all hold most of Canada's riches........think Quebec will not take advantage of all this, and hold there own referendum... every province that does decide to leave, sees Ottawa's control diminish, i mean what's left Ontario and the Maritimes.. You guys think that this is not going to happen, and yet there are more and more people talking bout separation, not just in the west, but almost every province...they may be small groups now but they are getting larger by the day....so anything is possible....and once it starts it will snowball... You're traitorous scum. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 13 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: So at what point did you lose your mind? I notice you can't answer the question. Why are you against Alberta leaving? You hate our resources, you hate our way of life (all those farting cows, OMFG!!!), you hate the way we vote, you hate everything about Alberta. You should be thrilled! You can have Liberal governments forever! No one can answer that question because there are no good reasons for Alberta to stay. None. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Legato Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 18 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: So at what point did you lose your mind? You're traitorous scum. Try putting the brain into gear before engaging mouth. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 15 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You're traitorous scum. I'm sure in liberal circles you opinion might mean something, in here your just another liberal chick trying to scream over all the other liberal noise...your real problem is you just need to get laid more often, it allows you to focus on your own issues...like personality... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I'm sure in liberal circles you opinion might mean something, in here your just another liberal chick trying to scream over all the other liberal noise...your real problem is you just need to get laid more often, it allows you to focus on your own issues...like personality... is it a Liberal view to not want Alberta to separate and a Conservative view that it should? Quote
Army Guy Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Just now, TreeBeard said: is it a Liberal view to not want Alberta to separate and a Conservative view that it should? Sure it is, the liberal portion of the country depends on Alberta and the other western provinces for almost everything...so ya why would they want to end all of that ?.....the western province want a voice , they want a say , how hard is that to understand....it seems the only province that has a voice is Ontario, Quebec....why can the western provinces have the same rights, and voice...Because they are not liberal, hardly seems fair... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Chrissy1979 Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: I'm sure in liberal circles you opinion might mean something, in here your just another liberal chick trying to scream over all the other liberal noise...your real problem is you just need to get laid more often, it allows you to focus on your own issues...like personality... At least I'm not traitorous scum masquerading as a patriotic Canadian. 2 hours ago, Goddess said: I notice you can't answer the question. Why are you against Alberta leaving? You hate our resources, you hate our way of life (all those farting cows, OMFG!!!), you hate the way we vote, you hate everything about Alberta. You should be thrilled! You can have Liberal governments forever! No one can answer that question because there are no good reasons for Alberta to stay. None. You're delusional. There's your answer 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: At least I'm not traitorous scum masquerading as a patriotic Canadian. True, on account of the fact that you never pretended to be patriotic. 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: is it a Liberal view to not want Alberta to separate and a Conservative view that it should? Pretty much. Anyone dumb enough to still be a Liberal doesn't see what's going wrong in the country. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 8 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You're delusional. There's your answer Ya, that's what I thought. You have no reasons for why Alberta should continue to be part of this sh!tshow. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: You're traitorous scum. That's a compliment coming from you, because I detest everything that you love. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Chrissy1979 Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ya, that's what I thought. You have no reasons for why Alberta should continue to be part of this sh!tshow. Because most Albertans are patriotic and not delusional traitors who lost their minds during COVID 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That's a compliment coming from you, because I detest everything that you love. You mean Canada. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Because most Albertans are patriotic But we're not suicidal. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Because most Albertans are patriotic How would you know, when you don't even know what patriotic means? Quote and not delusional traitors who lost their minds during COVID Run to your emotional support goat, Chrissy. Looks like you need a good cry. Quote You mean Canada. If you gave a shit about Canada you wouldn't be a liberal, dumbass. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Chrissy1979 Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: How would you know, when you don't even know what patriotic means? Run to your emotional support goat, Chrissy. Looks like you need a good cry. If you gave a shit about Canada you wouldn't be a liberal, dumbass. If you cared about Canada, you certainly wouldn't be playing into U.S. efforts to destroy it. Fortunately you're a tiny percentage of the population and everyone else has total contempt for you. 2 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 All separatists are traitors. If some Albertans or Quebecois don't want to be a part of Canada anymore they're free to move to another country. They aren't taking Canadian land with them. 1 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Goddess said: But we're not suicidal. You're right: https://globalnews.ca/news/11659131/alberta-separation-polling-february-2026/ Edited February 18 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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