TreeBeard Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 https://www.ipolitics.ca/2026/01/29/premiers-preach-unity-amid-report-that-alberta-separatist-group-met-with-trump-white-house-officials/ The Financial Times reported on Wednesday that Trump White House officials held three meetings since April with members of the Alberta Prosperity Project, a right-wing separatist group. The outlet said the group is seeking a $500 billion credit facility to bankroll the province if a referendum on separatism is successful. Alberta separatists are meeting with American officials to seek aid in breaking up Canada. Seems to be financial aid, from the reports. The criminal code states: High treason 46 (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada, (a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her; (b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or (c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are. Marginal note:Treason (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada, (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province; (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada; (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a); (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act. To me, it probably doesn’t rise to the level of treason yet, unless they discussed military, or policing operations, or given the Americans any intelligence , which I suspect the separatists don’t have anyway. If they even talked about any American military or policing after a vote for Alberta to separate before it became independent, this may be treason, or it may be seditious conspiracy, which is a different charge unfpder the criminal code. 4 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 The percent of Albertains who support leaving confederation grows consistently. I doubt it'll ever be enough to actually pull the trigger but, it clearly shows how the belief in Canada is falling apart. And why is this happening? Because the Canadian federal government is full of globalist pansies. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Are Quebecers called treasonous? They were nationalists and Albertan are treasonous?? 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
John Stone Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 ..................rumor is they're all Quebecois - arguably that would give them immunity to prosecution. Kind of a Louis Riel thing - heard that traitor has his own statue on Parly Hill. 2 Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 33 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I doubt it'll ever be enough to actually pull the trigger but, it clearly shows how the belief in Canada is falling apart. Or that the belief in pulling it together is still growing by leaps and bounds. In any case Carney should've invited Minnesota's premier to the meeting he's having with the other premiers. Minnesotans have expressed an interest in joining Canada before. 2 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Or that the belief in pulling it together is still growing by leaps and bounds. In any case Carney should've invited Minnesota's premier to the meeting he's having with the other premiers. Minnesotans have expressed an interest in joining Canada before. .......... this type of thing likely gives the Quebec separatists ideas - not to mention Trump. Divide and conquer ............ Nationalist feeling are running high in Quebec. An independent Quebec would control the St Lawrence. ........... course they'd be writing their own cultural suicide Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 49 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The percent of Albertains who support leaving confederation grows consistently. I doubt it'll ever be enough to actually pull the trigger but, it clearly shows how the belief in Canada is falling apart. And why is this happening? Because the Canadian federal government is full of globalist pansies. This has nothing to do with the question at hand. No one says they can’t try to separate. Are they committing treason by getting a foreign government to help them? 41 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Are Quebecers called treasonous? They were nationalists and Albertan are treasonous?? did they get help from a foreign power? But as I recall vividly, yes, they were labelled as traitorous, even if it wasn’t in the legal sense. 3 Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Are Quebecers called treasonous? They were nationalists and Albertan are treasonous?? ab ones takling to foreign power asking for a loan on top of it should be called treason.. Edited January 29 by Politics1990 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 35 minutes ago, eyeball said: Or that the belief in pulling it together is still growing by leaps and bounds. In any case Carney should've invited Minnesota's premier to the meeting he's having with the other premiers. Minnesotans have expressed an interest in joining Canada before. You mean the people in Minneapolis St. Paul. The rural communities want to cooperate with ICE. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 27 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: This has nothing to do with the question at hand. No one says they can’t try to separate. Are they committing treason by getting a foreign government to help them? did they get help from a foreign power? But as I recall vividly, yes, they were labelled as traitorous, even if it wasn’t in the legal sense. Has the federal government committed treason by sh1tting all over Alberta for decades? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Has the federal government committed treason by sh1tting all over Alberta for decades? No, it doesn’t even come close to meeting the legal definition. Now what about them separatists? Quote
herbie Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Are Quebecers called treasonous? They were nationalists and Albertan are treasonous?? Quebecers have actual grounds. They existed as a separate jurisdiction before, have both a distinct language and cultural identity, plus were predominantly Catholic. Alberta has none of those nor a distinct geographical justification, it was solely a creation of Ottawa out of a territory. So in the eyes of a post confederation Canada, separatists in both provinces are by dictionary definition traitors to Canada. And with the raison d'etre a misconception they can and should separate for an imaginary extra dollar in their pocket that makes Alberta separatists even more traitorous. Not even mentioning covert US support... 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You mean the people in Minneapolis St. Paul. No I mean politicians, governors and such of Minnesota. 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The rural communities want to cooperate with ICE. Meanwhile undocumented workers are the largest group of immigrant farmworkers in Minnesota. More than half the cows in Minnesota are milked by undocumented immigrants. Canada's dairy milk industry apparently has few if any illegal workers at all. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You mean the people in Minneapolis St. Paul. The rural communities want to cooperate with ICE. I think a lot of communities that have had zero interaction with ICE say they want to cooperate with ICE (along with staunch republican communities) Edited January 29 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
TreeBeard Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, herbie said: dictionary definition traitors to Canada. I’m wondering about the legal definition of treason or sedition. Do the Albertans meet that by getting a foreign power involved? Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, herbie said: Quebecers have actual grounds. They existed as a separate jurisdiction before, have both a distinct language and cultural identity, plus were predominantly Catholic. Alberta has none of those nor a distinct geographical justification, it was solely a creation of Ottawa out of a territory. So in the eyes of a post confederation Canada, separatists in both provinces are by dictionary definition traitors to Canada. And with the raison d'etre a misconception they can and should separate for an imaginary extra dollar in their pocket that makes Alberta separatists even more traitorous. Not even mentioning covert US support... As long as there has been Canada and even before that, the french, as opposed to quebecers, they have never been a "separate jurisdiction". On 8 September 1760, Lévis and Vaudreuil surrendered the entire French colony of Canada. Thus they were never really anything but a colony and gave it up. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No, it doesn’t even come close to meeting the legal definition. Now what about them separatists? I suppose it might be from Canada's stand point. Yet...do they not have a right to leave confederation? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Politics1990 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I suppose it might be from Canada's stand point. Yet...do they not have a right to leave confederation? of course they do.. the talking to another power about it and requesting a 500b line of credit is the issue lol Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I suppose it might be from Canada's stand point. Yet...do they not have a right to leave confederation? It’s Canada’s laws that they must follow. You can’t just wish for other laws. If they’ve committed sedition or treason against Canada, they should be arrested and charged. Do they have a right to separate? No. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-31.8/page-1.html WHEREAS the Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that there is no right, under international law or under the Constitution of Canada, for the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally; Quote
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Politics1990 said: of course they do.. the talking to another power about it and requesting a 500b line of credit is the issue lol Why? Being a sovereign state would allow Alberta to turn on all the taps...including agriculture. Alberta would boom like it should have all along. Canada blew it with confederation. Ottawa blew it. I get how and why...but they had to know this was coming. Alberta's a natural resource gold mine. So is Saskatchewan...BTW. Edited January 29 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, Politics1990 said: of course they do.. the talking to another power about it and requesting a 500b line of credit is the issue lol They don’t actually have a right to separate unilaterally. A province, or area, or town, or city in Canada has zero power to leave Canada. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 22 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I’m wondering about the legal definition of treason or sedition. Do the Albertans meet that by getting a foreign power involved? Not all Albertans but the individuals representing the separatists seem to meet it alright. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nefarious Banana Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Pre tar sands/oil patch, before eastern folks came west for employment, Alberta was hardcore 'right of centre'. Now it's contaminated with the screwed-up left wing/Liberal thinking of those eastern folks . . . that's probably the thinking that will keep Alberta in Confederation. Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: They don’t actually have a right to separate unilaterally. A province, or area, or town, or city in Canada has zero power to leave Canada. well i meant more if they hit 50% plus one in my eyes they more then welcome to go lol Quote
Nationalist Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: It’s Canada’s laws that they must follow. You can’t just wish for other laws. If they’ve committed sedition or treason against Canada, they should be arrested and charged. Do they have a right to separate? No. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-31.8/page-1.html WHEREAS the Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that there is no right, under international law or under the Constitution of Canada, for the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally; Huh...ok. I wonder what would happen if Alberta just ignored Ottawa? No federal payments, build and mine at will. What might Ottawa do? Attack? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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