Jump to content

Emergency Act commission


Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

Canadians should get their act together before they lose their freedom and become a totalitarian state.  Turn to Jesus Christ and his word, the Bible, repent, and be born again.  Then understand God appointed a monarch as head of state.  It is part of the democratic system and helps ensure freedom and democracy.  The King is not there by accident and our system developed over a long history of struggles.  We don't want to lose it because of uneducated people who don't understand how it works and just want to throw it out for the sake of change.

What if the king is a wicked WEF funky?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the Executive is forbidden from directing the police in Canada

the RCMP Commissioner wields the authority of the monarch against the Cabinet, soon as they break the law

Seriously: why do we like glaring, obvious bullshit so much? A national political cuisine of choice, for sure.

A. PM appoints Commissioner by hand, solely and single-handedly. No checks; balances; reviews or anything in the process.

B. Blah wields blah authority.

C. Add an ombudsfolk for transparency - appointed by who, you thought?

"Cannot be sure if PM can grant themselves privilege" a motto.

Couldn't it (liking and taking as given, the bullshit) be counter-productive, risky even dangerous at some point. Can it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, myata said:

Couldn't it (liking and taking as given, the bullshit) be counter-productive, risky even dangerous at some point. Can it?

I don't think the constitution is the problem per se

rather it is simply the sorts of people that Canadian society produces now

through the education system to the professional managerial class

the culture of absurdly conformist cronyism is deeply entrenched in the population  itself

most Canadians actually seem to desire a Prime Minister to be dictator

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, myata said:

Right. And that's why we routinely see them investigated and at times, even convicted. Sure, you've seen that - only which branch of the multiverse was it? Eyes or paper, the eternal conundrum.

There are no independent institutions in this country. Everything whispers and rubs everything else. This is how the system was made two centuries ago to avoid every, any possibility of a genuine change.

again, I don't see the problem as being with the system but rather the people

Canadians do not uphold the Westminster Parliamentary system anymore

Canadians have become culturally American, and so vote like Americans

but the American system is based on separation of powers

unlike the Prime Minister, the President has no legislative authority

unlike the Parliament, the Congress has no executive authority

the checks & balances in Canada are reliant upon one upholding an oath to the monarch over the government

but since Canadians don't believe in that anymore, the rule of law in Canada is breaking down

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, myata said:

Or a crazy murderous psycho? Like it never happened gazzilion times back to the future, the eternal quest of this humanity.

the British people have overthrown Kings without overthrowing monarchy itself

that is in fact how the Westminster Parliament of Canada was founded

William III deposed James II in a counterrevolutionary war, founding Parliamentary Supremacy

the problem in Canada is that if you remove the monarch from the constitution

that would make the Prime Minister an all powerful dictator with unchecked legislative & executive authority

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, Army Guy said:

The government did make all the choices, they however did say if you're not vaccinated then you were barred from public spaces, which was not a big deal, you can shop for anything on-line including food and have it delivered, save on gas, or having to deal with VAC extremists, or the rest of the crazy population. and a lot of time most people were working from home anyways.

But that was not enough, they wanted to punish those people, by pushing mandates forcing vaccinations to the population with huge incentives like losing their jobs, or benefits, as always, they went too far, and people pushed back.

I am not aware of them making any major changes, we still do not have a national stock of PPE, medical machines, or a name brand vaccine that is mass produced in Canada. 

long-term care homes is Provincial but the feds could have, say hold back on funding until it was fixed, i mean it was not just a few people that died, it was thousands something that someone should be tracking, i find it funney we track everything during the pandemic, deaths who had shots who didn't, right down to race and ethnic background so everyone that is in a position to make policy has just thrown those out when it means they would have to do some work. That i find sad really. It just another example of how little a life is worth in Canada. 

Some one needs to put on the big boy pants, and make decisions or face consquences, i'm sure Justin has the power to force premiers into doing something  if he was motivated.

There was never any barring from public spaces. There were masking requirements and provincially mandated lock downs but there were certainly no barring from public spaces.  The federal and mostly provincial governments made decisions on public health and safety. Decisions to protect all, not just a select few.

The consequences of not getting vaccinated were those imposed by employers.

I do believe that stocks of PPE were increased and certain medical devices were procured and distributed. Again, much of that is in provincial jurisdiction and local hospital issues. They did approve vaccines. The manufacture of vaccines is a commercial company issue. The US had very limited COVID vaccine manufacturing as did many countries in the world.

Not sure what you are asking of LTC facilities. The deaths were tracked and reported, at least in Ontario they were.

Also, am not sure what you mean by "Some one needs to put on the big boy pants, and make decisions or face consequences,".  Make what decisions? Face what consequences for what?

 

 

 

 

Edited by ExFlyer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ya, I'm not sure I would give too much credibility to a poll commissioned by a group favouring a republic.

What powers would you give this elected head of state?

Whatever powers were in the constitution. Such as the powers they have now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't think the constitution is the problem per se

rather it is simply the sorts of people that Canadian society produces now

Wow, could it be said any simpler and to the point? When, where paper was the main problem? If our main problems were some papers wouldn't we be living in a perfect world, or very near.

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

the problem in Canada is that if you remove the monarch from

So like an illusion remedy as the rational for indefinite status quo? When the monarch interfered in anything what exactly could they do? No we like to put imaginary dreams ahead and before any reality. That much is pretty clear.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Whatever powers were in the constitution. Such as the powers they have now.

So what's the difference? Why go to the expense of putting another politician in the same job? We already have plenty of politicians in Ottawa and you could easily end up with a PM and President from the same party. 

If you get rid of the position and make the PM head of state, you are just removing one of the few checks on a PM's power.

Edited by Aristides
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So what's the difference? Why go to the expense of putting another politician in the same job? We already have plenty of politicians in Ottawa and you could easily end up with a PM and President from the same party. 

If you get rid of the position and make the PM head of state, you are just removing one of the few checks on a PM's power.

I do not understand your comment.

You questioned a poll about monarchy.

You then asked who would be in power. I said same as now, whatever is in the constitution.

The monarchy is only a figurehead with no constitutional authority. The monarchy is only a ceremonial and historical position.

Getting rid of the monarchy has nothing to do with who we democratically vote for or to lead us.

What do you think the monarchy in Canada is?? Some sort of political patriarch or matriarch? The monarchy is just a homage to our past with no authority.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Rights wingers certainly claim to be more patriotic and are bleating the loudest about the loss of Canada to our enemies - which I not assume are not right wing.

All without a shot having been fired in response. It's kinda weird. 

Funny i did not differentiate between left or right i said "Canadians" are not very patriotic. That being said if you were to measure patriotism one would have to give more to the right side of the spectrum. The left is more concerned about themselves rather than the nation as a whole. But Ya you go girl, keep preaching

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, West said:

What if the king is a wicked WEF funky?

According to our Constitutional Monarchy/Parliamentary democracy, the King does not have any  power in political matters.  The government can simply overrule anything the King says or orders and put him in his place.  If the King becomes too political he risks creating a crisis between the government and the monarchy.

Edited by blackbird
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

According to our Constitutional Monarchy/Parliamentary democracy, the King does not have any  power in political matters.  The government can simply overrule anything the King says or orders and put him in his place.  If the King becomes too political he risks creating a crisis between the government and the monarchy.

Nevertheless, in a healthy parliamentary democracy, the monarch has ongoing dialogue with the PM, as happened between Queen Elizabeth and Winston Churchill.  Victoria knew PM’s like Gladstone, Disraeli and Palmerston well. They didn’t always get along, but it was always important that there be mutual respect and understanding, the the monarch is the representative family of the people, representing centuries of cultural and political history.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Nevertheless, in a healthy parliamentary democracy, the monarch has ongoing dialogue with the PM, as happened between Queen Elizabeth and Winston Churchill.  Victoria knew PM’s like Gladstone, Disraeli and Palmerston well. They didn’t always get along, but it was always important that there be mutual respect and understanding, the the monarch is the representative family of the people, representing centuries of cultural and political history.  

That is true, but discussions between the monarch and the PM in their weekly meetings are always in private without cameras or media.  They are only meant to share opinions between the PM and King/Queen.  The PM makes the final decision about what direction government will go.  I don't think the King can require or order anything in politics.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is true, but discussions between the monarch and the PM in their weekly meetings are always in private without cameras or media.  They are only meant to share opinions between the PM and King/Queen.

Sure. That's how it's been two or three centuries back in the times colonial and why change anything if it works (anyhow)? Just stick a new label on it!

While it works - important. Has anyone or anything promised that it would be forever? And by the time you run into real problems with that fun idea you forget everything about what a change is, and means. This is exactly what happened to dinosaurs. By the way.

Edited by myata
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/14/2022 at 10:16 AM, Boges said:

My bad, it's presumptive that people who repeatedly refused to do what they were told by Law-enforcement would actually be convicted of the crimes they are charged against. ?

They weren't doing anything wrong. They were protesting against fascist overreach by our government. One would think that would be appreciated in a western society. We all know what happened when fascism went unchecked in Germany. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/14/2022 at 11:24 AM, ExFlyer said:

Who is "they"? Harper made Duffy a senator.

Lavalin and WE may not have been in the debates but they sure were used by oppositions.  No one forgot about them and they were talked about.

Justin still won the elections.

The G7 debacle was under Harper rule.

Regardless, all irrelevant to this EMA hearing.

The MSM, which constantly receives large sums of taxpayer money from Trudeau (the CBC received a $675M raise from Trudeau right after he won hs first election), plagued Harper with illegitimate criticisms about Duffygate for 3 years. They made it an election issue for 3 years. 

If something happened and you wanted to watch the news that night you had to endure 3 minutes of babbling about Duffygate every time. They'd open the show with brief highlights of all the stories of the day, starting with yelling and shouting from Trudeau and Mulcair, then their first story would be idiotic fluff, then they'd preview the Trudeau/Mulcair crap for "after the break, then they'd show the Duffygate BS, then they'd finally get around to stories that mattered. 

You're too young to remember it, but anyone who watched "news" on CTV or CBC between 2012-2015 was conditioned to believe that Duffygate was the biggest political scandal in world history. 

In the end, Duffy didn't even do anything wrong and it wasn't even a scandal at all. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The MSM, which constantly receives large sums of taxpayer money from Trudeau (the CBC received a $675M raise from Trudeau right after he won hs first election), plagued Harper with illegitimate criticisms about Duffygate for 3 years. They made it an election issue for 3 years. 

If something happened and you wanted to watch the news that night you had to endure 3 minutes of babbling about Duffygate every time. They'd open the show with brief highlights of all the stories of the day, starting with yelling and shouting from Trudeau and Mulcair, then their first story would be idiotic fluff, then they'd preview the Trudeau/Mulcair crap for "after the break, then they'd show the Duffygate BS, then they'd finally get around to stories that mattered. 

You're too young to remember it, but anyone who watched "news" on CTV or CBC between 2012-2015 was conditioned to believe that Duffygate was the biggest political scandal in world history. 

In the end, Duffy didn't even do anything wrong and it wasn't even a scandal at all. 

Well he overspent based on a residency claim and other nonsense, but it looks pretty quaint after hearing about the Gov General’s in-flight catering bill.  These patronages often look like prizes for cronies.  Of course when the recipients realize there’s actually accountability and work involved….

Harper wrote a good op ed on the weekend about having a committee for vetting GG candidates.  He’s right.  

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/14/2022 at 9:10 AM, ExFlyer said:

You completely ignored what I said

It was the logical thing to do in that moment. 

Quote

Basically, I do not and could not care less about the past.

People who choose to remain ignorant to history are condemned to repeat it. FYI, that's you, just in case you didn't notice.

Leftists ignore all of Trudeau's similarities with Hitler because they think that fascism means "stuffing Jews into gas chambers", but fascism is a rolling menace that gathers a lot of steam before they get to that point. 

Trudeau's accusation that anti-vaxers are racists & misogynists and that they're unclean is right straight out of Hitler's hatemongering against Jews. It follows the script perfectly.  

Then he upped the ante to a gesundheitspass and open discrimination. He seized people's bank accounts, yet another blatant tribute to Adolf Hitler.

He had police beat up protesters in the streets who had surrendered peacefully. 

He forced tens of thousands of people out of work if they didn't submit to his will.

The only thing that stopped Trudeau is the fact that the Senate stepped up to put an end to his fascist lunacy. In 100 years senators just rubber stamped everything and then received massive pensions. It took Trudeau's fascism to make them actually get off their asses.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well he overspent based on a residency claim and other nonsense

Did he really though?

Quote

"I filed my claims as the Senate rules provide, and was approved by Senate administration, and as Judge Vaillancourt agreed were valid," Duffy told CBC News in an email.

Before the scandal broke in 2013, it had been widely known that Duffy, who represents Prince Edward Island, had lived in Ottawa for more than two decades during his time as a television broadcaster.

Duffy's previous expense claims led to a criminal investigation, and he was charged with 31 counts of fraud and breach of trust. After a year-long legal saga, Duffy was found not guilty on all charges in a resounding victory issued by Justice Charles Vaillancourt. 

How bad of a look is it for our RCMP that Duffy was charged with 31 counts of fraud and breach of trust and they were all overturned? How could a judge all see it so differently?

It just seemed like a witch hunt from the beginning. And in any event, there wasn't enough oomph in that accusation to keep up such a massive stink for years. $90K, really?

Like I said, the WE scandal was over $900,000,000.00. It's several orders of magnitude higher, and there's even a trail of $500,000.00 to Trudeau's own mother. 

$900,000,000

$90,000

Literally 10,000 times as much money, an actual scandal where the finance minister had to resign, and Trudeau just got to say "I should recused myself". then the media stfu. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Did he really though?

How bad of a look is it for our RCMP that Duffy was charged with 31 counts of fraud and breach of trust and they were all overturned? How could a judge all see it so differently?

It just seemed like a witch hunt from the beginning. And in any event, there wasn't enough oomph in that accusation to keep up such a massive stink for years. $90K, really?

Like I said, the WE scandal was over $900,000,000.00. It's several orders of magnitude higher, and there's even a trail of $500,000.00 to Trudeau's own mother. 

$900,000,000

$90,000

Literally 10,000 times as much money, an actual scandal where the finance minister had to resign, and Trudeau just got to say "I should recused myself". then the media stfu. 

I agree.  It just illustrates how bought our press is.  Not really a free press.  

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Tell a friend

    Love Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums? Tell a friend!
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      10,698
    • Most Online
      1,403

    Newest Member
    IPEM Group of Institutions
    Joined
  • Recent Achievements

    • Ethan Wylde earned a badge
      First Post
    • Yakuda went up a rank
      Experienced
    • QuebecOverCanada went up a rank
      Grand Master
    • Jeary went up a rank
      Rookie
    • Gator earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...