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Just now, ExFlyer said:

Incorrect.

When I went to work for the public service after my Military career, I had a choice to swear to the Queen or to Canada. I chose Canada.

You can play your game all you want but the fact is, the PM runs this country and the ministers serve as his/her pleasure, not the Kings.

The old allegiance to the monarchy is an old formality with no value or authority.

Canada is simply the Confederation

Canada is not the Government of Canada,

if that were the case, then Canada could not be a free country

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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

and Canada is now in such a war

caught in no man's land between two vast foreign powers

America & China competing to control Canada by way of Ottawa, in order to control the resources here

Oh, BS. Even for you Dougie, that is a stupid statement.

Economics is voluntary participation. You do what you want with who you want. In Canada, since we sold or gave away almost all our capabilities, we need trade with the Americas, China's, India's, Taiwanese of the world.  Al voluntarily.

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is simply the Confederation

Canada is not the Government of Canada,

if that were the case, then Canada could not be a free country

Huh?? That makes no sense at all.

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4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You can play your game all you want but the fact is, the PM runs this country and the ministers serve as his/her pleasure, not the Kings.

The old allegiance to the monarchy is an old formality with no value or authority.

you simply fail to understand the separation of powers in Canada

there is the Monarch, the Government & the Confederation

these are three separate authorities, each with their own purview

 

 

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13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re the guy who follows orders no matter what they are.  Plenty of those were prosecuted at Nuremberg thankfully.

When did I ever say that??

Makin gshit up to serve your narrative is what you do best. Normally full of BS though.

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

you simply fail to understand the separation of powers in Canada

there is the Monarch, the Government & the Confederation

these are three separate authorities, each with their own purview

 

 

No, you fail to see the reality. Your imaginative perspective is worthless. Just rhetoric.

This country has one authority, that is the sitting government. No monarchy can impose anything on Canada.

"Canadian Confederation was the process by which three British North American provinces, the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick, were united into one federation called the Dominion of Canada, on July 1, 1867"   which no longer exists.

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2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Huh?? That makes no sense at all.

the Government of Canada is not the country

at least, not according to the constitution

the MP's in theory draw all their authority from the Monarch

if those MP's fail to "bear true & faithful allegiance" therein, their authorities are forfeited

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16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

"Canadian Confederation was the process by which three British North American provinces, the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick, were united into one federation called the Dominion of Canada, on July 1, 1867"   which no longer exists.

Confederation did not cease to exist

it simply expanded to include ten provinces

the patriation of the constitution in 1982 did not overthrow Confederation 1867

Confederation did not overthrow the monarchy

the basis of all Canadian constitutional law remains the Treaty of Paris 1763

the only claim to these lands being that the House of Bourbon signed them over to the House of Hanover

Queen Victoria; Mother Canada

VRI - Pro Patria

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43 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the Government of Canada is not the country

at least, not according to the constitution

the MP's in theory draw all their authority from the Monarch

if those MP's fail to "bear true & faithful allegiance" therein, their authorities are forfeited

No government is a country. A government rules and controls the country.

41 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

"the pen is mightier than the sword" ~ Edward Bulwer-Lytton, 1839

Says the former soldier that wielded a sword. LOL

35 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

perception is reality

if I influence ten people, and they influence ten more, and so on and so forth

 soon it becomes exponential

a vast host standing against the forces of darkness

rise up, yonder Christians

Hopefully there are not ten people that re foolish enough to be influenced by your rhetoric and banter.

23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Confederation did not cease to exist

it simply expanded to include ten provinces

the patriation of the constitution in 1982 did not overthrow Confederation 1867

Confederation did not overthrow the monarchy

the basis of all Canadian constitutional law remains the Treaty of Paris 1763

the only claim to these lands being that the House of Bourbon signed them over to the House of Hanover

Queen Victoria; Mother Canada

VRI - Pro Patria

Completely wrong.    "Canada is a federation and not a confederate association of sovereign states, which is what "confederation" means in contemporary political theory. It is nevertheless often considered to be among the world's more decentralized federations."

The only thing the treaty of Paris did was guaranty French Canadians limited freedom of worship. Provisions were made for exchange of prisoners; French Canadians were given 18 months to emigrate if they wished; and government archives were preserved.   No laws. LOL

Oh in 1710,  War of the Spanish Succession, was a struggle to determine whether the vast possessions of the Spanish Empire should pass to the House of Bourbon or to the House of Habsburg,

 

You need to research before you blow your horn LOL

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6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Says the former soldier that wielded a sword. LOL

and I found out how weak it was

that we could be fired upon under UN flag

and we couldn't even return fire

the UN at New York City had the pens, they had the power

on Op Salon /  Feather I was confronted by a large angry mob at my post

but I only had a sidearm with one magazine

so I decided to leave the sword with the Commissionaire

and go out there to negotiate with the mob instead

rhetoric saved the day,

when I invoked a truce in the name of Her Majesty The Queen

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13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

A government rules and controls the country.

not in Canada

the King of Canada rules

the government serves at the pleasure of the Parliament

the government is not in control, they are bound by solemn oath to defend the right in the name of His Majesty

any government of Canada can be brought down at a moments notice,

soon as they lose the confidence of the House

God save the King from nefarious governments who think that they rule

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I used to argue with Dougie about this fealty to the monarchy versus government of Canada stuff.  I came to the conclusion that I trust the monarch over the current PM not in terms of the person (Liz or Charles or whoever occupies the thrown) but in terms of the Crown, which is the Sovereign.  Basically we honour and protect our rights and freedoms as sovereign citizens, which is actually sanctified and bigger than any current government.  It’s the essence of our citizenship.  The Crown can dissolve parliament if the government works against the interests of the people.  I agree that it’s messy because the GG in Canada is appointed by the PM.   The PM or GG could be a goof, but that’s why we study the history of these institutions and figures, and it’s why our constitutional monarchy has its checks and balances.  However, I think our constitutional rights must be strengthened.

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4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I used to argue with Dougie about this fealty to the monarchy versus government of Canada stuff.

you have talked me out of it now

I am convinced that Canada has become a de facto Post National State pseudo Communist People's Republic

that the Crown of Canada has actually fallen to the Bolsheviks

all that is being maintained now, is a facade of Canada, a Potemkin Village

thus we are left no choice, but to fall back upon the Declaration of Independence

inalienable natural rights endowed by God Himself

the Shot Heard Round the World

 

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8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

not in Canada

the King of Canada rules

the government serves at the pleasure of the Parliament

the government is not in control, they are bound by solemn oath to defend the right in the name of His Majesty

any government of Canada can be brought down at a moments notice,

soon as they lose the confidence of the House

God save the King from nefarious governments who think that they rule

The "king" is a figurehead, not more.

The government is parliament and vice versa.

The government is bound to comply with the constitution of Canada.

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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

you have talked me out of it now

I am convinced that Canada has become a de facto Post National State pseudo Communist People's Republic

that the Crown of Canada has actually fallen to the Bolsheviks

all that is being maintained now, is a facade of Canada, a Potemkin Village

thus we are left no choice, but to fall back upon the Declaration of Independence

inalienable natural rights endowed by God Himself

the Shot Heard Round the World

 

I’m starting to think that too.  The pandemic exposed a lot.

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10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I used to argue with Dougie about this fealty to the monarchy versus government of Canada stuff.  I came to the conclusion that I trust the monarch over the current PM not in terms of the person (Liz or Charles or whoever occupies the thrown) but in terms of the Crown, which is the Sovereign.  Basically we honour and protect our rights and freedoms as sovereign citizens, which is actually sanctified and bigger than any current government.  It’s the essence of our citizenship.  The Crown can dissolve parliament if the government works against the interests of the people.  I agree that it’s messy because the GG in Canada is appointed by the PM.   The PM or GG could be a goof, but that’s why we study the history of these institutions and figures, and it’s why our constitutional monarchy has its checks and balances.  However, I think our constitutional rights must be strengthened.

I am as far away form a monarchist as you can get.

I fully understand the ceremonial and figurehead role of the monarchy and it's historical significance but, it serves no valid purpose today.

Yup, the PM and GG can be wingnuts but, that is the fault of all Canadians and the PM (in the case of the GG).

I think our constitutional rights are quite strong, application of them is what is weak.

As far as Dougie is concerned, I just think he is too far out there and far too scattered with a once every while a good point. :)

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3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

As far as Dougie is concerned, I just think he is too far out there and far too scattered with a once every while a good point. :)

don't mind me

I'm just hanging out with my friends and followers here

generating content for the forum

shooting the breeze, spinning some tunes

if any good points ever came of it, then it's all good

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25 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The government is bound to comply with the constitution of Canada.

but they don't comply with it

the federal government engages ceaselessly in vast constitutional overreach, threshold of treasonous

the provinces increasingly invoke secession in the face of it

the rule of law in Canada has broken down, and the Judiciary is complicit with all of it

there is nothing left to fall back upon at this point, no way to defend our rights

other than by the Declaration of Independence

American freedom is spilling over the ramparts, inexorably,  by way of Canada's default

you are all part of it, being an anti-monarchist republican yourself

you are a de facto American even if not de jure

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but they don't comply with it

the federal government engages ceaselessly in vast constitutional overreach, threshold of treasonous

the provinces increasingly invoke secession in the face of it

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you are a de facto American even if not de jure

Incorrect, the government has not breached any constitutional rights. If you have proof or doing so, please provide.

Please provide proof of overreach. Not opinion but evidence and proof.

Secession? Of what?  When?

American? How so?

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, myata said:

China has those, see "Hong Kong". And good luck (as there's pretty nothing to count on, else).

Our laws are not the same, they are made in a real democratic government and subject to the Constitution and Charter defined by an independent Supreme Court. Comparing Canada to China is either just more bullshit or sheer ignorance.

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The Ottawa protesters were well past their best before date, they had made life miserable for the people of Ottawa for weeks, ignored court orders and broke numerous laws. It was time to go. 

We do need more clarity on the freezing of bank accounts. Who's were actually frozen and why. 

There is an Ontario appeals judge chairing the committee and I think we will get some answers.

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44 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

  Basically we honour and protect our rights and freedoms as sovereign citizens, which is actually sanctified and bigger than any current government.  It’s the essence of our citizenship.

Peace of Augsburg 1555

Glorious Revolution 1688

War of Independence 1776

 supremacy of God & the rule of law

 
 
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