Goddess Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Legato said: Actually the "vaccine" is not harmless. I was hospitalised for a week after my second shot with acute chest pain. Doctor admitted the vaccine causes the immune system to become compromised. Two of my close friends developed blood clots, one has permanent damage the her leg. there are many others. My sister is permanently disabled by it. I have since met another woman in my city who is also permanently disabled by it, worse than my sister. They are both in their early-mid 40's. A couple weeks ago in my city - 2 people dropped dead within minutes of getting the booster - one in Shopper's Drug Mart, and one in WalMart pharmacies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: That I understand but who has asked them to. Our government during the OKA crises is a great example, no one knew what was going to happen, but everyone knew that a day would come when Canadian soldiers would have to close with and destroy those taking part in all of that. It was a miracle that it turned out the way it did. Other times there is no choice, civilians will get caught up in the battle and die due to our actions, hence the word collateral damage a word the politicians made up so we would not feel so guilty. It happens more often than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Not to take sides here, but during the Cuban missile crises Canadian naval group did just that defied a direct order from the PM not to get involved, and they sailed down south and joined a US naval task force the rest is history. As for a coup it would have to be a very serious matter, like the government gone rogue or something, but I've seen it happen in many countries Canada is not immune to any of it. in theory & on paper : the Prime Minister is not actually in command the Prime Minister is supposedly bound to take the recommendations of the chain of command the chain of command lays out an array of sound options then the Cabinet is supposed to hold a free vote to decide which option to select if the Prime Minister starts issuing direct orders willy nilly from his office as if he is in command then he is going out on a limb because the chain of command has its own authority vested by the monarch any military directives which are completely unsound, can simply be overridden by mission command Winston Churchill was in fact sidelined this way in the Second World War Churchill was meddling in the pre Overlord planning and British forces basically had to ignore him, when the Americans insisted on it Edited October 15, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: The vaccine is harmless. I’ve had 5 shots and no problems. So has the rest of my family. I don’t know of anyone who has had any problems. The majority of deaths and injuries from the "vaccines" have occurred in certain batches, which were distributed widely. It would not have looked good and raised alarms if the notorious batches were all sent to just one province or state. This way, the deaths and injuries are distributed widely enough that they can be dismissed as "coincidences". It appears that they are experimenting on the population with dosages - how much this or that ingredient before death occurs. Hopefully, you and your family continue to receive the "good" batches. My sister got a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Goddess said: I hope our military isn't full of such cowards. in my experience, you are only as brave as the brothers to the left & right of you courage is contagious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: in my experience, you are only as brave as the brothers to the left & right of you courage is contagious Indeed. That's why the Emergency Act was invoked, really. And why the Trudeau-bought media doesn't report on the on-going and now, international protests. Trudeau couldn't have Canadians finding out that it wasn't just a "fringe minority". When the Freedom Convoy started, that was the most common comment I saw on it - everyone thought they were alone. But we weren't. Another common comment - "For the first time in 2 years, I had HOPE." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, Goddess said: Indeed. That's why the Emergency Act was invoked, really. And why the Trudeau-bought media doesn't report on the on-going and now, international protests. Trudeau couldn't have Canadians finding out that it wasn't just a "fringe minority". When the Freedom Convoy started, that was the most common comment I saw on it - everyone thought they were alone. But we weren't. Another common comment - "For the first time in 2 years, I had HOPE." I would surmise that the government has only staved off unruly mass protest in the near term because, going forward, the numbers of Canadians being driven to the brink of bankruptcy are truly staggering and there is no soft landing as either they be wiped out by inflation and/or they will be wiped out be deflation either they are going to be drowning by spiralling prices, particularly for food, energy & shelter or they are going to be in the throes of an unprecedented secular bear market correction so I expect the protests to return with a vengeance at some point, on an exponentially greater scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: Canada falling to a totalitarian government, such as the Communists or National Socialists Again I ask, exactly what are you waiting for? We've been Communized and Nazified for years according to the right wing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: Again I ask, exactly what are you waiting for? We've been Communized and Nazified for years according to the right wing. I am not an officer, I do not hold the Kings Commision I am merely a humble retired soldier I am not empowered to take any sort of action against the government, other than peaceful assembly & protest a coup d'etat is executed by the senior ranks of a military chain of command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yup I said that and stand by that. Are you doing the shooting?? I also know we are not Iran or any other dictatorship or whatever in your imagination. You do make the stupidest analogies LOL You’re the guy who follows orders no matter what they are. Plenty of those were prosecuted at Nuremberg thankfully. Edited October 15, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 This is how you know it's a farce: Also, "micro-aggression" in English is "micro-aggression" (said with a French accent) in French. McKenna from Ontario. What a shocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Goddess said: This is how you know it's a farce: Also, "micro-aggression" in English is "micro-aggression" (said with a French accent) in French. McKenna from Ontario. What a shocker. Wow. I wonder if the public will actually react to this. I’m not sure anymore. It’s funny, this just puts me off Ottawa even more. Phoney elites playing games with language to avoid accountability. Edited October 16, 2022 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Goddess said: My sister is permanently disabled by it. I have since met another woman in my city who is also permanently disabled by it, worse than my sister. They are both in their early-mid 40's. A couple weeks ago in my city - 2 people dropped dead within minutes of getting the booster - one in Shopper's Drug Mart, and one in WalMart pharmacies. The booster seems to be the issue. Don't know why people continue to inject themselves every four months if the vaxx is actually legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Goddess said: Indeed. That's why the Emergency Act was invoked, really. And why the Trudeau-bought media doesn't report on the on-going and now, international protests. Trudeau couldn't have Canadians finding out that it wasn't just a "fringe minority". When the Freedom Convoy started, that was the most common comment I saw on it - everyone thought they were alone. But we weren't. Another common comment - "For the first time in 2 years, I had HOPE." Their response is textbook from any WEF funded business texts. Any time there's a protest, they tell you you have four options to deal with that: 1. Is to ignore it- you see that with the lamestream media not covering legit stories 2. Try to discredit it - you see that alot when stakes are high and there's obviously some momentum. Throw out baseless allegations of racism or nazis 3. Join it - see that with businesses joining the nutty lefts causes all the time 4. Absorb it Basically why I find it hilarious how everything is called racist.. just a positioning strategy by Trudeau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: You’re the guy who follows orders no matter what they are. Plenty of those were prosecuted at Nuremberg thankfully. Legal orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Legato said: Actually the "vaccine" is not harmless. I was hospitalised for a week after my second shot with acute chest pain. Doctor admitted the vaccine causes the immune system to become compromised. Two of my close friends developed blood clots, one has permanent damage the her leg. there are many others. 5 hours ago, Goddess said: My sister is permanently disabled by it. I have since met another woman in my city who is also permanently disabled by it, worse than my sister. They are both in their early-mid 40's. A couple weeks ago in my city - 2 people dropped dead within minutes of getting the booster - one in Shopper's Drug Mart, and one in WalMart pharmacies. It's phenomenal how many people right wingers seem to know who were hospitalized, injured and killed by COVID vaccines. What are the odds given how miniscule the odds of serious adverse effects are in the first place? You guys must know dozens of people who've been struck by lightning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xul Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Good. Laws create jobs, and jobs create laws.😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted October 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Aristides said: Legal orders. China has those, see "Hong Kong". And good luck (as there's pretty nothing to count on, else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: You’re the guy who follows orders no matter what they are. Plenty of those were prosecuted at Nuremberg thankfully. there is historical precedent of the Canadian Forces issuing & executing unlawful orders the most recent & glaring example being on Operation Deliverance in Somalia the chain of command issued orders to "shoot to wound" & "rough the prisoners up" unlawful by national & international law & the laws of armed conflict this quickly got out of control, when Clayton Matchee took his commander's intent to the extreme then the chain of command attempted to cover the murder up, denying all knowledge of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Wow. I wonder if the public will actually react to this. I’m not sure anymore. It’s funny, this just puts me off Ottawa even more. Phoney elites playing games with language to avoid accountability. you see the danger, if this is ever transferred unto the military on Canadian soil the utter lawlessness & corruption of the government infects the chain of command the politicians will order the military to do unlawful things the crony chain of command will pass that on to the solders and the soldiers are fearsome, indoctrinated to close with & destroy with maximum speed violence & aggression and that would be turned loose upon innocent Canadians by default there are no bad soldiers, only bad leaders Edited October 16, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Dougie93 said: there are extreme circumstances where one is bound by solemn oath to overthrow the government Canada overrun by a foreign power, installing a government in occupation Canada subjugated by a foreign power installing a puppet government through nefarious covert means Canada falling to a totalitarian government, such as the Communists or National Socialists but furthermore, the Minister of National Defence does not actually report to the government neither does the CDS both report directly to the monarch so I do see a circumstance where the chain of command could arrest a Prime Minister in the name of the King If any of the above occurred, Canada would have lost a war and the Canadian Military would be controlled by the ruling party. Incorrect, the MND does report to the Government and the CDS also reports to the MND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Incorrect, the MND does report to the Government and the CDS also reports to the MND. nobody in the government swears on oath to serve the government nobody is bound to any fealty to the Prime Minister the Prime Minister is not in command the Cabinet in theory makes decisions by vote the Prime Minister is not empowered to dictate to any Cabinet member the MND is the Cabinet Minister responsible for the military the MND's authority flows from the King, not the government so the military chain of command has its own authority, which supersedes the Prime Minister same with the RCMP, the RCMP Commissioner could also arrest a Prime Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Army Guy said: I have all my shots, due to other medical reasons, but i firmly agree with it should be up to ever person to do what they think is best, and yes that comes with restrictions of course. and just one more point we are going into year 3 with all of this, have we corrected any of the faults we discovered through this pandemic, like fix long term care homes, improve our supply lines by having medications, vaccines made here in Canada, plus all the PPE. I don't think the government held up its end of the promises they expect Canadians to fight this by following the rules they chose. And do very little lift their share. I too have medical reasons for getting COVID vaccination. Yes, everyone should have a choice but it is for government to make total population decisions. To make decisions best for the entire public health and safety. As for correcting issues found as a result of a world wide pandemic, I do not think we have resolved many but I think the lessons learned have resulted in changes and/or upcoming changes. Lets be a bit more specific, there is no "government" that can make all the changes. There are many levels of governments that need to cooperate to make the change to the issues. That, as we have seen, is becoming more and more difficult as it is easier for one level of government to blame another and nothing gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: nobody in the government swears on oath to serve the government nobody is bound to any fealty to the Prime Minister the Prime Minister is not in command the Cabinet in theory makes decisions by vote the Prime Minister is not empowered to dictate to any Cabinet member the MND is the Cabinet Minister responsible for the military the MND's authority flows from the King, not the government so the military chain of command has its own authority, which supersedes the Prime Minister same with the RCMP, the RCMP Commissioner could also arrest a Prime Minister Incorrect. When I went to work for the public service after my Military career, I had a choice to swear to the Queen or to Canada. I chose Canada. You can play your game all you want but the fact is, the PM runs this country and the ministers serve as his/her pleasure, not the Kings. The old allegiance to the monarchy is an old formality with no value or authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: If any of the above occurred, Canada would have lost a war and the Canadian Military would be controlled by the ruling party. and Canada is now in such a war caught in no man's land between two vast foreign powers America & China competing to control Canada by way of Ottawa, in order to control the resources here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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