kimmy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 36 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Where on EARTH did I say I'm against unions? Maybe you aren't, but the Republicans and their supporters have been fighting to demonize and destroy unions for decades, and that hasn't changed any. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Like the ceremony held when the Democrats stopped openly supporting the KKK? Yes, I agree with you that it should go both ways. LBJ was a hero for making that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just now, kimmy said: Maybe you aren't, but the Republicans and their supporters have been fighting to demonize and destroy unions for decades, and that hasn't changed any. -k True on many levels over the decades by both parties I'd hazard...but these aren't the days of the Cotton Gin, either. As long as unions support the worker over management, they'll exist. 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, I agree with you that it should go both ways. LBJ was a hero for making that change. When he wasn't shooting Kennedy or escalating Viet-Nam, he was a pretty cool cat, alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Kennedy conspiracy... That's another ceremony. Anti war is another one too. Ron Paul turned the fringe Republicans anti-war and now we have Trump bowing down to Russia. Note that I haven't exactly complained about these things. If socialism comes to the US wearing as cowboy hat, that would kind of make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: What's yours? I can't change 4000 years of religious indoctrination by buying another pair of crappy jeans. You can try...but all it does is confirms their caste system works as intended. You seem to take a rather dim view of South Asia's capacity for change. My solution involves trade. Prosperity empowers people and makes them more ambitious for their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cum Laude Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, kimmy said: Maybe you aren't, but the Republicans and their supporters have been fighting to demonize and destroy unions for decades, and that hasn't changed any. -k Maybe you should work hard to understand the divisive politics of unions before making a naive generalization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Cum Laude said: Maybe you should work hard to understand the divisive politics of unions before making a naive generalization. Divisive or not, it's a fact that Republican governments in the US have done their level best to kill unions, which makes the new "fighting for the working man" act pretty tough to believe. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, kimmy said: Divisive or not, it's a fact that Republican governments in the US have done their level best to kill unions, which makes the new "fighting for the working man" act pretty tough to believe. -k It's fighting to lower costs to keep jobs in the USA. Now there's a stick motivator to companies outsourcing. However there is going to be a lot of competition between right to work states in the south vs the north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 59 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: You seem to take a rather dim view of South Asia's capacity for change. My solution involves trade. Prosperity empowers people and makes them more ambitious for their kids. Platitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, BubberMiley said: It seems completely arbitrary. Why not Pakistan? Why not Saudi Arabia, which was responsible for almost all the 9/11 highjackers. A guy they interviewed on CTV (I don't know who he is) had explained that the USA has poor relations with those countries mentioned (ban list), and because of that poor relation, it's hard for USA to verify the identities, and any information about applicants from those countries. Edited January 28, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Argus said: I've already given you plenty of evidence. But it seems to me that your checklist of what constitutes Christianity only has one box on it, and that box is whether they claim to oppose abortion. If they do, they're a Christian, as far as you're concerned. I suspect you read the bible about as often as Trump does. We've already discussed that Argus. I've corrected you of your misconception on Christianity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, betsy said: We've already discussed that Argus. I've corrected you of your misconception on Christianity. "Denied" does not equal "Corrected". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Argus said: "Denied" does not equal "Corrected". Yes, Argus. You were corrected of your ignorance of the teachings - supported by Biblical passages. You're the one who's denying that fact. Edited January 28, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Well......Trump was right after all! Quote Trump argument bolstered: Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/ There could be plenty more! Some could've voted several times! The same thing that happened to an Obama supporter could easily have happened in the last election. Quote Melowese Richardson, former poll worker, sentenced for five years on voter fraud charges Richardson was one of six people accused of voter fraud in 2012 in Hamilton County. Sister Marge Kloos and Russell Glassop pleaded guilty and were accepted into a diversion program. Kloos, a dean at the College of Mount St. Joseph, admitted that she submitted an absentee ballot in the name of her deceased roommate, Sister Rose Marie Hewitt. Kloos lost her position at the Mount. Glassop admitted that he submitted his wife's absentee ballot after she died. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/melowese-richardson-former-poll-worker-to-be-sentenced-on-four-counts-of-voter-fraud Edited January 28, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: If socialism comes to the US wearing as cowboy hat, that would kind of make sense. These plow-boys are clearly wearing stupid looking white cones that come with a hoodie. The hoodie thing always makes me wonder if the silly pricks also have a affection for wearing dickies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: These plow-boys are clearly wearing stupid looking white cones that come with a hoodie. The hoodie thing always makes me wonder if the silly pricks also have a affection for wearing dickies. You're talking about the counterpart of pussyhats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I suppose so except these dickheads really go out of their way to make asshats out of themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, betsy said: Well......Trump was right after all! That some right wing pundit would say that there was illegal voting, and it was mostly for Clinton. Yes, we knew that all along. Fake news from the fake news capital of the world - Trumpland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 55 minutes ago, betsy said: Yes, Argus. You were corrected of your ignorance of the teachings - supported by Biblical passages. If you mean you denied biblical passages, then you're correct. But I don't think I could be corrected about Christianity except by a Christian who knew a lot more about Christ than you seem to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, betsy said: A guy they interviewed on CTV (I don't know who he is) had explained that the USA has poor relations with those countries mentioned (ban list), and because of that poor relation, it's hard for USA to verify the identities, and any information about applicants from those countries. He has business interests with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. They're not getting on the list despite having worse records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, betsy said: Well......Trump was right after all! Fake news from a newspaper owned by the Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon. Ie, by the Moonies. What next, gonna post an opinion by the Church o Scientology telling us what a great Christian Trump is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, betsy said: Well......Trump was right after all! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/ There could be plenty more! Some could've voted several times! The same thing that happened to an Obama supporter could easily have happened in the last election. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/melowese-richardson-former-poll-worker-to-be-sentenced-on-four-counts-of-voter-fraud How could you have decided Trump was right after reading all those "could haves"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, kimmy said: Perhaps trade agreements could be a way to improve working conditions and environmental protections in those countries. "If you want access to our market, you have to meet minimum standards on child labor and environmental regulation. Sadly, of course, trade agreements usually work the opposite way, giving corporations a way to resist environmental regulation they feel is overly strict. But it doesn't have to be that way. It's a nice idea but it's been tried. Seem to recall every time Canada sends a government rep to discuss trade with China, there's pressure by some groups here for the Canadians to talk about human rights. But they are too scared to mention it in any serious way. Probably because the Chinese have the upper hand now. They don't need to listen to us. If we don't like it, too bad. As someone once said, economics trumps virtue.All that's gonna change now that WE got the Trump on our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Those jobs are good jobs in Bangladesh. Granted we should monitor the safety of sub-contractors there better than we have but clothes can be made far more cheaply there than here. Industries come and go. = "Let them eat cake." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: It's a nice idea but it's been tried. Seem to recall every time Canada sends a government rep to discuss trade with China, there's pressure by some groups here for the Canadians to talk about human rights. But they are too scared to mention it in any serious way. Probably because the Chinese have the upper hand now. They don't need to listen to us. If we don't like it, too bad. As someone once said, economics trumps virtue.All that's gonna change now that WE got the Trump on our side. China has no interest in imports except of raw materials. And they will mercilessly play one country off against another to get the cheapest deal. And just what else does Trudeau think we can ship them they can't make cheaper even if we had a fair trade deal and even if they actually abided by it? Edited January 28, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.