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Hawley is such a sniveling worm. This is pure partisan hackery and a gross publicity stunt. Such legislation is long overdue. It's been proposed over and over again in both the house and the senate without success. Someday it will happen. The concept is great, but if Hawley actually cared about doing good instead of getting his name in the papers he wouldn't have given his version this silly name, which is a poison pill. You can't build bipartisan consensus (as others have genuinely tried to do) while being a partisan a-hole.

Also important to point out that without Al Gore all this climate hysteria doesn't happen. If you want to pretend what's happening as far as the effects of climate on society is only about the science go for it but observance of the obvious tells us most of it is political.

All I have are facts. Fact: Trump lost the election. Fact: Trump knew he lost Fact: Trump lied and said the election was stolen Fact: Trump hosted a “stop the steal” rally which resulted in the storming of the US Congress and six deaths. Donald Trump belongs in a prison cell for that.

Well... a poster says "I know that sea level rising, because I look at it with my eyes" and I produce NOAA data done with measurement tools. Would you expect the first poster to say "oh, right... thanks, my error" ? I kind of would because that's what I would do.

Reference - Sea Level Rise in Florida (references from NOAA data) https://sealevelrise.org/states/florida/#:~:text=When the ocean rises high,352% across Florida since 2000.

The cult-like ideas...such as? When you're reading and looking for things to confirm what you already feel and believe, it's very easy to find lots of information on it. What I find really odd is how a forum (which means "place to talk") for world leaders that's been attended by world leaders for decades has now been conjured into a nefarious CABAL/CULT simply by virtue of angry repetition. Here's a great quote: “Thank you Professor Schwab for that kind introduction, I also want to thank you particularly for the invitation to speak here that you extended to me earlier this year. But more than that, Professor, you have made the World Economic Forum an indispensable part of the global conversation among leaders in politics, business, and civil society. And in the face of continuing global economic instability, the opportunity this gathering provides is now more valuable than ever. So I know everyone here joins me in thanking you for, in service of the common good, your vision and your leadership." -Stephen Harper, Davos 2012 I don't think it's any surprise that you weren't fussing and whining about this 10 years ago, nor do I find it surprising that our mouthpiece opposition leader had nothing to say about it back then when he was part of the Harper government. The only reason he has anything to say about it now is because the conspiracy circus has been talking about it non-stop for the last 2+ years and he can harness that befuddled rage by echoing it back to you and pointing it at someone.

Well the group of psychopaths are meeting again to discuss how they alone are going to save humanity. Freeland will be speaking. What crazy nonsense will these loons be imposing next?

She's saying you got to pick the first potatoe, and it was the nicest one. Then you called everyone else inferior for having smaller, mis-shapen potatos.

Southern Ontario (Toronto) and parts of BC (Victoria/Vancouver) are the hottest places in the country in the summer, though they don't get as cold as inland cities north of them like, say, Edmonton. These excuses/explanations you list are all over the place. The UK is f*cked because of green energy (it's not, and they've had Brexit to deal with, but whatever). China doesn't count because it's bigger, and Scandinavia doesn't count because they're smaller? I don't even know where to start.

When 60+ court cases challenging election results ARE THROWN OUT, that IS "NO EVIDENCE."

1. That's valid. 2. If you're suggesting that one of the factors that should be considered when framing the policy is the "popularity" of an opinion then I disagree with that. You seem to be saying that it's a widely held opinion on a change in our moral sphere, and as such it's not an outrageous example of hate propaganda. I can concur with that. 3. You'd be surprised that some jobs disallow you talking about your political preferences. 4. If it was explicitly spelled out, or commonly understood that that was unacceptable then yes. But I don't think that's going to happen, nor am I concerned at all. What I'm trying to do is get people to talk about what could constitute a set of considerations when setting up a policy on behaviour, online posting, or what have you. Most people are just telling me whether they agree with the action or not.

But JK Rowling isn't even part of this discussion. The person in trouble happened to sponsor a sign without her name on it - clearly not a problem. I would be sympathetic if she only stated things as you said, if you must know. But we don't know what exactly was said at this point.

Where did I say that?

And there we go; HCDSB teacher arrested on child pornography charges https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/child-predator-teacher-hcdsb-1.6706487 --- Case closed. The teacher should go to jail if it is proven. Many, many people in this thread and in society in general had absolutely no red flags raised after a teacher was showing inappropriate behaviours/bodyparts to minors.

We all have to follow the law, and we can all look it up, and read it from the servers of our state and federal governments. The last thing anyone here should argue is what the law says. Sometimes, it can be difficult to know how the law applies to a circumstance, and that’s when we read the case law. But the Federal law about classified information is very clearly written.

1. Here's a recap: Groot asks "Why does a professional organization have a moral code" and you reply "And one more time, here in Canada here the answer has three words: because-we-can. Because there's no checks, controls or limits to what they can do." I point out that this is NOT strictly a Canadian format and you reply "it doesn't excuse it"... You may be right about it not being excused but your reasoning that this happens in Canada because we can has been refuted, and you haven't replied to that. Instead you said "it's not an excuse", which is a different point. 2. It is their problem, and that's what they came up with. It just seems like you are learning that Doctors, Lawyers, Project Managers, Federal Employees, and probably - I don't know - Dog Catchers have restrictions on their speech. I'm glad to hear you're on our side though, since I myself am in a professional organization. 3. Your natural rights are restricted pretty much everywhere you go. That includes this website, where your right to express yourself can be retracted for no reason at all.

Or marriage, or a contract, or when ordering at McDonalds ? You agree to something and you get something. If you don't agree to it, then that's fine too.

I think you're better off posting links the original article, rather than the angry written-in responses from pipeline industry employees.

The woke mob giveth and taketh away. No rational reason

Or Don Lemon. Another talking head.

Excuse my rudeness, but your opinion on this is worth little. You don't actually know anything about this case or the reasoning behind it, nor what the rules are, so once again this is a strong opinion you've formed on a topic for which you know little to nothing. There are a few factors to consider: 1) AML and ant-terrorist financing laws are strict, with huge fines and reputational risk for non-compliance. The Banks live in constant terror of these. 2) The Banks can close a client's account for any number of reasons. The threshold for it isn't high. This is a business, not a public service. As a Canadian you have a right to have a bank account, but not to deal with any specific bank, or use it however you please. 3) The overwhelming majority of clients don't add anything to a bank's bottom line. They're going to spend zero effort to clear up suspicious activity for low-value clients who do most of their business elsewhere (or who are deadbeats in general). I worked for a bank for a number of years and as a branch manager. I've a very low opinion of the industry and its practices in general, but then I also know what the rules are and how much time is wasted on angry and delinquent losers. This guy can try to sue, but he'll be laughed out of Court.

NASA has been measuring this with satellites for more than 30 years. 0.13 inches per year means 1.3 inches every ten years at the present rate, which is 30% faster than 20 years ago. If it keeps accelerating at that rate it in 20 years it will be .17 inches a year and in 200 years it will be increasing at a rate of almost 4 inches a year, but we know now that the rate of acceleration is not linear, it is increasing, If the rate is increasing at a rate of 1 inch every 10 years, that will mean 4 inches in the next 30 years and 5.2 inches in the next 30 years. In 200 years that would mean a total rise of 19 inches but we know the rate isn't linear. The recent study of glacial melt in Greenland found the undermining of the large glaciers by warm sea water is causing them to melt at a much faster rate than was thought.

You don't need to join a professional association if you don't want to. You don't have to take a job either. If you do, you have to agree to certain things.

1. No, but it nullifies your reasoning - which is why I pointed it out. 2. The name is indeed used to identify witches, as witch hunts tend to do. 3. I opined that the policy makers within the organizations would likely align their policies to avoid legal challenges. I think that stands to reason. 4. I'm just trying to see if we can come up with ways to discuss this on level ground. What are the considerations ? What does agreement, vs. agreement-to-disagree look like ? We're not going to convince everyone, nor are we going to solve the disagreements but this would make it easier for me to understand the various viewpoints. 5. I would say your problem is with the policies themselves. Which is fine.

Understood.

1. That is completely unrelated to your confusion over the fact that Paul Pelosi continued to make money while his wife was in office. Which shouldn't be confusing to anyone. 2. There is no evidence that Paul leveraged anything from Nancy or vice-versa. If there were, Pelosi would have already been prosecuted, as some of her colleagues have been. If Paul Pelosi had been a shitty businessman and failed investor before Nancy took office and suddenly turned around his fortunes, you'd be right to be suspicious. But he was successful before and continued to be successful after. His trajectory was unchanged, so suspicion should give way to vigilance. It's fine to keep an eye on these things, as we should be doing, but one shouldn't assume that success is evidence of wrongdoing.

I'm saying what we need is more voter power, not just how we count votes. We need more democracy, take some of the decision making away from the government which has grown into an elite separate class that threatens to dictate its terms to us, no matter how incompetent they are. We are in a nanny-state. Because we are coddled by government, we are ignorant of the issues and carry on happy-go-lucky, not needing to burden ourselves with the knowledge needed for good governance. Then we complain bitterly when they screw everything up. For comparison look to the US model, they have far more voter's rights to decide who will be in government, right down to the lowest levels. The right move is to put limit s on government size and power, and Canada needs this drastically.

If you added up the ratings of the so-called “liberal media” news, they would crush Fox News

Absolutely true, according to the rules that you made up. But what you don’t understand is that America is a nation of LAW. And Biden and Pence did not violate the LAW. Trump did. What’s the difference? The difference is two-fold: First, the LAW says that removal of classified documents is only a crime if the material was KNOWINGLY removed with the INTENT to keep it. Both conditions must be met. Second: The suspected charges listed against Trump involve obstruction of justice and lying to investigators. Pence and Biden were 100% cooperative; Trump was not. Trump insisted on keeping the documents after not only repeated requests, but even after court orders. Trump himself said he was “negotiating” the return of the documents. There is nothing to negotiate! If I steal your car, am I allowed to “negotiate” for its return? Of course not! Biden and Pence did not negotiate; they proactively looked for the documents and voluntarily returned them. And in Trump’s case, the charges listed so far do not pertain to whether the documents were classified or not. The issue is stolen government property.

Poilievre himself was apparently on their website, and he hasn't said why. https://www.beyondthenarrative.ca/canadian-federal-politician-members-of-the-world-economic-forum/

No it's not. Warming is not happening nearly as fast as the majority of climate modeling predictions. Kind of "glacial" in comparison if you like that word.

Nobody is forcing you to play it.. And yet some how you do, i find the topic interesting, and the more i research it the more questions i have... you can brush it under the table if you like, but i find it odd that world leaders would attend an Organization with Cult like ideas...i find that very odd... And world leaders have access to all the same technology as we do it is as easy as making a phone call to see anyone in the globe. Why not the UN , or NATO conferences, or the dozens of other that happen every year... Davos' conferences has garner attention way before this one, and if we dismissed every topic with a conspiracy theory attached to it, well things be a little boring...wouldn't be much to discuss.

No, it's really not. If you add a 5% carbon tax, you're adding 5% to each carbon-based input in the supply chain, not the whole supply chain. If fuel/energy/delivery costs only add up to 20% of the total end-price of the item being purchased, then you're adding 5% to that 20%, which according to my abacus is 1% and that means I'm not wrong. I drive around 40,000km per year for business alone, nevermind my travel for hockey, golf etc. I very much understand the cost of commuting and fuel. We can have a reasonable conversation without you saying silly things like that, can't we? Natural gas plants operating at scale are far, far cleaner than your G-Wagon for your commute. If you're commuting your Corola to Toronto every day, than I do feel for you (especially because its cancer to drive on the highway) but if you're commuting in a Corola you're probably not part of the problem and will likely get most of that back in tax credits. ?‍♂️ This is a very good point, and one I used to argue on this very forum years ago. If we're taxing our polluters here, but then closing our factories down and offshoring our pollution to China or Mexico, we've not achieved anything but lost jobs. That's why the climate treaties and multi-lateral agreements need to be made (and are being made). We're headed for a future where Canadian export industries will get taxed/tariffed for being dirty and complaining about it at home isn't going to matter. That goes both ways though. We need to penalized companies that outsource their pollution and then try to bring the production back here.

1. Ok. Well the challenge before you us to do a better job of framing "professional standards for behaviour" than the policy makers of the associations do. Part of the profession involves trust, so that overlaps with saying things that are offensive or discreditable. 2. Ok. 3. I'm going to guess that there are areas or assignments where a nurse's take on trans people does impact their job. 4. Wait, what? Your example seems to not support your case. If you think that the Association should act to protect the feelings of black people but not trans people... then...why? 5. I'm not saying that these are easy questions. Splitting the atom on supporting SOME trans rights but not others seems to be necessary. But nobody is willing to break with the moral code that these are things that can't be said. Well, not nobody.. but not many institutions are willing to try this.

You provided a list of MOONS, not planets. You shouldn’t be teaching children if you can’t read a simple table. The only planet on your list is Neptune. As I explained, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn and Jupiter are easily visible with the naked eye and have been known for thousands of years. Venus is brighter than any star in the sky by relative magnitude and is so bright that it will cast a shadow on a moonless night. But Jupiter, Mars and Saturn are also very bright and easy to see if you’ve got decent vision. Hint: Mars is the red one.

the Abrams is not really harder to maintain than the Leopard 2 the Honeywell AT1500 engine is quite reliable, it's battle proven in the harshest conditions ( Arabian dessert ) it's also multi fuel, it can run on diesel, marine diesel, gasoline, or jet fuel Abrams is also stealthy, we used to call them "whispering death" because the engine is so quiet in case of both tanks, the advantage is the thermal sights with the Rheinmetall RH120/L44 gun both Arbams & Leopard can see and shoot Russian tanks beyond the range which the Russians can see & shoot also, don't underestimate the British Challenger 2 being sent as well the British L30 CHARM rifled gun is longest ranged in NATO Challenger 2 holds the world record longest ranged tank kill in Iraq, at 5,100 meters Challenger 2 also has the heaviest frontal armour of any NATO MBT

Here is the matter: "The college says the complaints against Hamm stem from her identifying herself as a registered nurse while making public posts supporting biological females and criticizing transgender women. This, says the college, underpins the forthcoming hearing. “Between approximately July 2018 and March 2021, you made discriminatory and derogatory statements regarding transgender people, while identifying yourself as a nurse or nurse educator. These statements were made across various online platforms, including but not limited to, podcasts, videos, published writings and social media,” states the citation."

Neutral(ish). The reality is that most consumption taxes are unfriendly to the poor, but I doubt that this one is actually hurting them very much with all of the tax credits and rebates they get overall.

One of the things about carbon taxes is that they are experienced more by wealthier people with higher carbon footprints. They may hurt poor people more on a relative basis, but that's a problem of poor tax policy design rather than the basic idea being bad. If you're worried about poor people, then we should also be talking about how the Conservatives elected to cut HST during the Harper years instead of income taxes, which Paul Martin campaigned on. That's why this argument is one I don't really buy. Why do people worry about the poor when it comes to climate change, but generally flip the bird at them on other issues? I don't think it's sincere. That's not to say you're bullshitting here, but that this idiom about carbon taxes hurting the poor the most is smoke and mirrors.

I’m a member of one, yes. It’s very dangerous to give wide latitude to small committees to dictate policies and procedures with major impacts in the organization and society at large. Such P and P must be circumscribed or limited. You don’t want the Vanguard Politburo running your life. Well maybe you do.

You are unbelievably dumb. It beggars belief. Like, this can't be a real person. It's performance art, right? The planets of our solar system have been "discovered" and identified since ancient times.

Actually, Florida WAS underwater a while back. And that was BEFORE world governments started funding junk scientists to wag their fingers at us about climate change. But there is ZERO evidence that Florida will be under water in 99, 0r 900 years. Algore said Miami would be under water around the year 2001, and so far they're still partying at South Beach. Key West is still and overpriced tourist trap. The water levels all around the state haven't moved in the past 23 years. But what does that have to do with the subject of the thread? Are you too stupid to discuss the subject of the thread? It's about gun control. I thought you goose steppers beat off to gun control stories.

Try breathing between sentences, and some punctuation. Other than that you're mad, I can hardly understand what you're saying.

1. When I read the article I thought it was about that billboard. So I started to agree with you. Then I read this "The charge against Hamm reads, “Between approximately July 2018 and March 2021, you made discriminatory and derogatory statements regarding transgender people, while identifying yourself as a nurse or nurse educator.” So the article is purposely not telling the whole story. And what else would you expect from culture warriors?

I disagree, it has nothing to do with how she does her job, nor does it have anything to do with the practice of medicine. The college should butt out, they aren't a morality police.

I always thought that claim about the termites was interesting. One hears it from time to time. I did a bit of a search on it one time some time ago. Near as I can figure they're confusing Carbon dioxide with methane. His #3 is actually true. Kind of. "97% of greenhouse gases are water vapor." I believe the correct number is 95. But that's interesting because it's how climate alarmists are able to postulate crisis warming. There isn't actually enough warming in 1 degree per doubling of CO2 to cause a crisis so they hypothesize a situation where carbon dioxide warming creates a positive feedback of added warming in water vapor. Just a couple of interesting but irrelevant little factoids. Trust me I'm not the guy who's going to back up anything from the WEF. Feel free to continue attacking the guy.

Freeze you Eastern bastard.

They’re sick control freaks who think they deserve to micromanage populations. The WEF is an unelected mob of kleptomaniac disaster capitalists who use the cover of solving world crises to commodify every aspect of human existence in order to accumulate more power and money for themselves. Trudeau and Freeland are ardent supporters to the degree that they will foist policies on the public without a public mandate then give us a sell job. It’s gross but most people are simply too removed, gullible, exhausted, and/or disempowered to do anything about it. Make no mistake though, the fascist ESG alignment of big business with government is overriding national constitutions and sovereignty. People generally aren’t getting it and are toeing the party line by calling anyone who calls attention to the undermining of democracy a “conspiracy theorist”.

There's a world of difference between a President and a Vice-President having classified documents at his residence.

Also @robosmith: So where’s your presumption of innocence for Trump?