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Hopefully Canada leaves the Paris Agreement and drops these targets and economy-killing carbon taxes. I’m not hopeful for Canada. Our leftists are dumber than the US Democrats who wouldn’t dare to impose carbon taxes on Americans. And before the posters pile on about Canada’s supposed responsibilities, remember that our emissions are rising along with our mass immigration under this profligate government, as China adds new coal plants with regularity. Do you really want to get rid of every last bit of industry and resource development in Canada? Do you really want to destroy our living standards?

Anyone who is a critical thinker and reasonably intelligent knows that much happened in the pandemic response that should not have. Early on governments had the excuse of trying to be prudent and protecting populations through measures like social distancing and perhaps even masking. Once the vaccines became available, the excuse for lockdowns disappeared, but really lockdowns should’ve been questioned and the freedom of movement preserved throughout the pandemic. Mandating vaccination with a new untested vaccine was wrong. Requiring vaccine passports for travel, work, and even use of private services was a massive violation of constitutional rights that was unnecessary. Pushing vaccines for young people and subjecting them to mandatory schooling from home was bad. Accommodation’s could’ve been made for immune compromised teachers, children, and workers who needed to keep a safe distance from people. The efficacy of the vaccines was proven to be low later on and they became unnecessary for most people by the time omicron rolled around. There’s no justification for mandatory vaccination at that stage, but really they never should’ve been mandatory. It’s highly likely that C-19 originated in a lab doing gain of function research. Foolishly and irresponsibly, our governments were allowing such research to take place with foreign adversaries. It’s obvious that governments are leaning on the excuse of national security to redact or hide what happened from citizens, though the threat to national security was the research and existence of the labs and partnerships with foreign researchers. I think that the reality is probably worse than what I said above. Nevertheless, populations were berated with fear mongering propaganda constantly. Many people including many posters on here are in denial of what happened and they will likely remain so. It’s simply too painful to admit and people want to believe what they are told. I say all of this as someone who is triple vaccinated and believed most of what I heard from media, even when much of it was scripted and the science on treatments was somewhat inconclusive. So much suppression of speech took place. The unfair maligning of invermectin is just one example of a false narrative being elevated by agencies to the level of official truth. We should all be very concerned about ceding more authority to the WHO. We should also put tremendous pressure on governments to explain what happened at our biolabs, to make sure that liberties can’t be removed again, and to ensure that unaccountable organizations and international bodies aren’t imposing policies on Canadians.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbis-data-is-faulty-as-crime-proliferates-in-big-cities-report Alt-Left media cultists were quick to jump on some new and misleading crime statistics published by the FBI recently, which appeared to show that violent crime was going down instead of up. In reality what's happened is that because of activist DA's, some violent crimes are not being prosecuted, or they are being prosecuted as lesser offences, which translates to lower crimes stats. In other instances some crimes are not being investigated at all due to a lack of police resources, so actual crimes just don't get catalogued. Worst of all, citizens and businesses are starting to feel like the police won't do anything or prosecutors will let the criminals go anyways, so they're letting the "little stuff" go, much like you'd see in a 3rd-world country. Why anger the criminals by setting the cops after them if nothing's actually gonna happen to them, right? The fact of the matter is that far more violent crimes are being committed now than before Biden was the presuhhdolt, there's just far less being done about it.

Yes, yes, we know that you think the entirety of the medical, scientific and academic community is all involved in a massive for-profit conspiracy. Turn off YouTube, take your meds and keep the cork on the fork.

Blacks and Transgenders DO have the same rights. What you want is EXTRA rights for Blacks and Transgenders - that's where the wokeness infection steps in.

Yet you've supported Trudeau when he was hate mongering conservatives and the unvaxed. How much further left can you be than to participate in/support hate-mongering?

Go to jail, Donald. You f-ing crook.

Because that's what left-wingers do, Mike. Leftoids like to hunt their political opponents down and imprison them or just shoot them. You're not a left-winger, Mike, are you? I mean you say you're a conservative but you keep finding yourself on the left side of a debate. Doesn't that disturb you?

You don't understand the contempt and palpable hatred that a good percentage of Canadians have for the present Liberal government. Your fawning defence of everything Liberal would be amusing if Trudeau's policies weren't punishing citizens . . . in this 'land of plenty' with a plunging standaed of living.

So humans f*cking up the planet is God's will. That's a philosophy only a masochist could have.d If God intended us to be in his (its) image, he must be one unhappy camper. We aren't even capable of saving ourselves from ourselves. Let's keep rolling coal until the place incinerates itself. God's will.

Listening to stupid people isn't a productive use of time. That's why Bubba was met with awkward silence at impartial's meeting. That's why so many of your thread topics are ignored and fade away, stillborn, into the back pages. It's why people lose interest in threads once you start talking about your muffins and your butthurt. Nobody derails and strangles a thread like CdnFux. 🥱

io: take your brain here for a second... Think back to Nov 2019, before you ever heard the word covid. Your mind is a blank slate... On the very first day of that month in Nov 2019, and even before that, Fauci already knew that he had funded research on a coronavirus, to make it more transmissible among humans, at the Wuhan BSL4 lab. Then when covid broke out, he stood there in front of the camera, talking to every American you know, every American you don't know, and everyone who died of covid, and said "The virus came from a wetmarket, where a bat and an intermediary species, like a pangolin for instance, were in close proximity..." Where I come from, that's called a FOG KING CONFLICT OF INTEREST. It's also a fabrication. If you grab a globe, that spinning replica of the earth we all had in our classroom at school, from your office and poke it with a pin, the Wuhan BSL4 lab and the wetmarket will both fit in the hole it makes. That's how close they are. Poke it as lightly as you want, they'll still both fit. But somehow Fauci just knew that his virus wasn't the one that's infecting everyone, and people were banned from social media for even saying "BSL4". Uh-huh. Last I heard, his virus was still the most likely culprit., and that's from the FBI, the most leftist of all organizations in America.

"this should be interesting" "this should be entertaining". The hallmark of someone who's not listening and doesn't care about the truth. Asking a question and dismissing the answer before it's even given. And from multiple people. Maybe that's the question you should have been asking the guy who brought it up at your meeting? Maybe he's concerned the state would do it agian in the future. Maybe he'd like to see the creation of an official state response plan that addresses people's rights to be used in the future. Who knows? You don't, because you were too busy being a pretentious jerk about it as you are now here. But this is the problem - people don't listen. You've obviously decided this guy was a scumbag for bringing it up and closed your mind. Now - we're used to seeing americans spread that kind of hatred and intolerance towards one another but it's a lot more shocking for us in Canada to see it happening here. But - here we are. Why dredge it back up if it had been resolved. What did he want to discuss? There must have been something. In his mind SOMETHING must be unresolved or why mention it.

Case counts in January 2022 alone were higher than the total case count for all of 2020 but the death and hospitalization rates were drastically lower, how can you post so much about a subject and still not understand basic statistics, you crackpot goof?

It's encouraging when business leaders like Elon Musk weigh in on this epidemic.

Any idea how many prosecutions have been done over illegal discharge of bilge water? Just curious about jurisdiction and penalties. On the second part: you win the interwebs today. IMHO one of the reasons we have SO MUCH problem with waste disposal is that hardly anyone pays or puts in place the life cycle costs of products and projects. In the oil business, it is normal that when a well is drilled cash bonding must be put in place to cover the cost of plugging and abandoning that includes re-establishing native vegetation cover. People love to dump on the petroleum industry, but few have a clue what goes on within. I used to live near what was once a massive nickel mine with electrolytic processing. It eventually got sold off to a Brazillian company that couldn't stop laughing at how cheap they bought in. Now that they are facing at least $4Bn in decommissioning costs they have to keep it running hoping tomorrow will never come. Why wasn't that put in place as a condition of original permitting to cover end-of-life costs? In so many cases, the companies are long gone and the cleanup costs will end up on taxpayer's

No you clearly misunderstood my post. Its you guys the left is 'controlling' if you can even call it that. All anyone has to do is push a social button or flip an economic switch and..."Look at you go!" It's not so much that right-wingers are under control you're way more out of control - of yourselves mostly.

Yes I have, even in the harbour with DFO going by. You've never heard of bilge socks or other measures to deal with oily bilges? We have planes with equipment that can detect a pumped bilge in the middle of the night out here now. Ever written proposals and secured funding for public pump-out stations that can deal with sewage holding tanks as well as bilge water? I have but no one wanted to spring for the bilge-water side of the proposals. As it was local authorities even balked at the sewage pump-outs out of fear people would clandestinely use them to pump their bilges into. So far I'm not aware of any being used inappropriately. In the meantime are you trying to say your shit doesn't stink? What do you do with your old boats by the way? Mine's been cut into pieces and properly disposed of at the landfill and recycling depots. Cost me about 3 grand. There's 20 other boats just like it on beaches hereabouts. It didn't cost a dime to dispose of them...yet. Some estimates place the cost at well over a million. Now I'm thinking of writing a proposal for our local harbour authority that boats come with a legally binding disposal plan for when their owners are done with them. I'm counting on a lot of push back. Maybe even death-threats.

Woke cultists won't rest until their political enemy is vanquished. You leftoids are single minded in purpose, that's for damn sure.

It does play a role just not the lead role. its sad that I have to say this twice. Increased govt spending does lead to increased consumer spending but not on a 1 to 1 ratio as you are claiming... The data simply does not back you up.. its not up to me whether you believe it or not.

If you want... go to the BEA site and get the micro data. I can tell you how to process the data. When you do so.. you find that consumer expenditures (not government) are the lead variable. Lead is not the same as only... you know this but that invalidates your schpiel. Yes, the covid era stimulus did cause high inflation. However, look at the last 40 years.. steadily increasing govt budgets but inflation that does not follow the same pattern?

Also... I know the actual data at the most granular level and fiscal policy is not the primary variable in inflation. But I will not ruin your fantasy. Its ok, carry along.

exactly. We are given an hour for all 12 participants to debrief. To fill that up with an unrelated topic is not a good use of time. Not even close to what I was asking... wow, you should become a talk radio host.

Are you trying to become a comedian? Well, you have a lot of work to do before you will ever become a good one. Your reply jokes are not funny and quite boring. But i will admit that most of your replies do make and give me a good laugh. 🤣

Sleep well, and please be safe in your wokeness approved safety space.

I'll never forget watching some right-wing politician in the US standing up to a microphone to address a crowd. He took off his mask and the look of disdain as he threw it aside was all the crowd needed to roar it's approval. Canadians took things more seriously and we died and got sick at half the rate as Americans as a result. So there was much that happened in response that was also bang on.

This is absolutely true. The FBI is now nothing more than the modern version of the NAZI Brown Shirts. All the "trusted institutions" have lost the trust of the people. Garland and Wray need to unceremoniously fired the first day Trump retakes the Whitehouse. Followed by a purge of all the bureaucracies.

Conservatives welcome opinions and debate, but not at the expense of their core values. Your problem is that you're trying to be civil with those wild animals. You probably think they are superior and you want their respect. I tell it like it is, Mike; you tell it like the left wants to hear it.

Mike...is this drivel your excuse for rational thinking? Instead of attacking these woke little nannies, I taught my kids honor and respect. They'll teach their kids that. Wokism is dying Mike. Deal with it rationally instead of making asinine statements.

Yuck.

Yup, I sure hope we learn from that. After reading all the comments here and considering Canada’s covid response in general, I decided to go looking for something we actually got right. Something I could look at and say “yup, I get it, that made perfect sense… good job.” So regardless of my personal feelings about the vaccine itself, the national response in general, the hateful and divisive rhetoric, or the clubbing of individual rights like a baby seal on an ice flow, I did a little digging. It occurred to me that maybe our timely acquisition of the vaccine (in sufficient quantities) and acquiring the required number of ventilators (on short notice) would be the bright spot I was looking for. Nope… A few minutes worth of searching suggested that (altogether) we disposed of some 53 million vaccine doses at a total cost of $1.6 billion. That’s not the stuff we gave away either, apparently “disposed of" actually means disposed of. So... I got to wondering, If maintaining vaccine efficacy required inoculation at 9 month intervals, did the people who cheered when their neighbours got fired actually roll up their sleeves and do what they demanded their neighbours do? Well, apparently not, only 15% of Canadians stayed current and up to date. I suppose that opinions on “WHY” may vary but mine is that the rabid pro-vax community no longer believed their previous messaging. And since that messaging was so hateful (IMO), I would have expected a bit more effort on their part. https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/just-15-of-canadians-got-updated-covid-vaccines-this-fall-new-figures-show-1.7064240 Then there's the ventilator thing. Yes this is from Rebel news but I don’t care about sources, I care if the information is true or not. Decide for yourself: https://www.rebelnews.com/hundreds_of_unused_ventilators_purchsed_by_feds_sold_for_scrap And with that my search for something “well done” came to a sad conclusion. It does take me back to my original (day one) premise though… do your own threat assessment, then do what’s right for you with my full blessing. After that, all you needed to do to get along with me was absolutely nothing… just extend that same courtesy to me. It amounted to minding your own business and leaving me alone, you couldn't even do that. It could easily have been the bright spot I was searching for… it wasn’t though. It was actually the worst part of all this

Too funny. I’m not capable of good stewardship? You aren’t interested in any stewardship. You palm off your responsibilities on your god.

You don't have to answer to moonbox lol. It's not like he's ever proven himself ble to have a reasonable back-and-forth with anyone he disagrees with.

Once again you show your ignorance not only on your views of evolution but the basics of what science is. Proof only exists in math. Science is always provisional. That's what makes it great. New information, means new discoveries means modifying theories. No scientists I repeat NO scientists say they have proved Anything. In fact what the vast majority of scientists do is to try and disprove the experiments of other scientists. They call this peer review, the pseudo scientists you quote only write for pretend "scientific institutions" like creation.com , because they know if they tried to publish in any actual science journal they'd be disproven so fast they wouldn't be able to con their ignorant flock.

so again no ideas or solutions... just some talking.

Ok, first it was not my meeting. The governor meets with a select group and each person presents their small bit. Mine is unemployment insurance claims. My turn was over before this guy came up. His unsolicited idea was that we should retroactively pay those who opted to not get the vax and make some sort of statement. The guy is not aware that no one sacrificed pay.. they lost sick leave or vacation time if they went to the testing. I felt that we had already crossed that bridge and so no need to keep revisiting it. The governor (again Republican) just stared at him and said nothing. He is the one that needs to say something not me. I just stared out the window knowing that this was out of left field. precisely. When he came into office.. he dealt with the covid issue. No need to keep revisiting it. Its over.

No. People realized he was having a Karen moment, and did the polite thing. They didn't engage. This is something you're no doubt familiar with. 🙃

No. I think that the guy was trying to take advantage of a bit of a duldrum in the action. We only have a legislative session every 2 years and that ended last year. Economy is doing well, unemployment claims are back down to a typical level. My guess is that it seemed like a good time to dredge it back up and he was shut down.

If I had already addressed it in the past and did not want to keep on doing so over and over again.. by your logic, I should just keep doing it. Lather, rinse, repeat. the governor did all that he could do.. he stopped the mandates and made sure that they were in the past. Lets hear what else he could have done... this should be entertaining

You assume that the mistakes of the past have not been addressed? By stopping the mandate and making it clear that it will not be brought back again.. that seems to address that. Besides can a governor undo the past... folks got the shot or not, all of which in the state service did so of their own volition. If they did not get the jab.. the consequence was that they had to get tested. No job loss, no financial penalty, etc. Even the testing was a toothless item.. if you did not get tested, rarely did anyone find out or really care.

Guys...it's 2024. There are still people on this forum that don't have Wastecanman on ignore?

The big corporations want the cheap labour, see. Cheap labour, more consumers, more profit. Illegals in the US are the new African slaves, driven by the money-makers. Nobody actually cares about us lowly workers. Anyone who thinks politicians work for us is a naive fool, they work for themselves. Their #1 priority isn't their constituents or their country, it's maintaining their own power.

More from the infected degenerates of woke cultism: https://www.wokekindergarten.org/

Each generation gets more stunted than the previous generation. Notice how the "center" of politics has been shifting left for God knows how long. Satan has been awful busy.

What about those who created ISIS and Al-Qaeda 😀

I pity the generations to come if this insanity isn't stopped soon. It's as though all common sense and ability to reason has gone out the window with these people.

Good aim. And by that you mean: "throw down some baseless accusations along with some lies and MSM drive/platitudes." We know the drill.

Lol. You clearly have no idea what the word "consensus" means, and you clearly have no idea just how radically fringe your views are. You've fine-tuned your information bubble so that all you get is nonsense. To everyone outside of the conspiracy kook sphere you are just a raving loon. I don't know how to coax someone back to reality, but instead of searching FOR other crazy people who agree with you, you might try just searching for answers. The world is full of experts, and there actually IS a consensus. You're just on the wrong side of it because you think anyone with a YouTube channel is equally credible. Really, I think age is a huge part of the problem. Some people are blessed with strong logical abilities and can effectively evaluate information sources. Others must be taught. And you pre-digital humans grew up with far fewer competing inputs. Broadcasting information was costly and had a high barrier to entry, so the market held them accountable. Not so in the internet age. Anybody can broadcast anything, and nobody taught you how to vet information. You have no natural immunity. So the market for misinformation and disinformation can make a fortune selling you bullshit with no accountability. But whatever the cause, take a look around and realize just how insanely far outside of the scientific consensus you are.

Guessing you're monstrously stupid. How many f*cking times do you need to hear that BC had a carbon tax long before Trudeau or Singh? Imposed by the BC (not ) Liberals!

Your "idea" - what there is of it - is conveyed in the subject line. The idea that humans are causing climate change has been accepted and is beyond reasonable doubt at this point. You have to start looking at yourself at this point, to see what is wrong with your approach to knowledge. It's called reflection, and I can't help you with it.