LinkSoul60 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: I can appreciate the distinction but at this point I think it's obvious that he lied. You can't appreciate anything that isn't leaning to the right. Okay, let's go with that he lied. 65% of Canadian's approve of Carney's leadership so it appears the masses don;t support your bias view. Now, if he had an approval rating in the 30's that would be embarrassing and of serious concern for his longevity. Don't you think...? 2 Quote
Army Guy Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 13 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Only in your crying blue conservative mind would you think the problems over the last 10 years that you constantly talk and cry about would be solved in one year. It'a tough to beat sliced bread, but Carney's our guy right now. He's like any other politician though....the shelf life isn't that long if the results aren't there. Just a reminder, all those problems created over the last 11 years were brought to us by the liberal government, the same government that created those problems have the original plans and most of the master minds that created them, it should not be that hard to reverse engineering them and find a solution. Given that the conservatives have already come up with some of them.... And while the people are not expecting total solutions in one year, we are looking for some results, and all we have seen is the creation of more red tape and employment opportunities for more bankers.. Canadians on the right are tired of liberal lies, and fake promises...what they are looking for is leadership any kind of leadership would be great. No, he was touted as better than sliced bread, which we agree is pretty damn good, but so far all we have seen or all he has delivered is burnt toast...and his shelve life depends on liberal voters, the same ones that have delivered us into this place we sit right now....if liberals can not deliver on their promises maybe it is time for them to step aside... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 On 2/21/2026 at 2:21 PM, Army Guy said: No that's not how it works....any candidate that runs under a party banner must be approved by the "party"...or run as an independent, 🤦♂️ Key there: "or run as an independent". Look, this is very simple. If individual MPs can't break ranks with their party, there's basically no point in having individual's names on the ballot. You just select a party, and then that party appoints a minion to follow leaderships' orders. The system was specifically and deliberately designed not to function this way. The whole point of our federal parliamentary system is regional representation. 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
LinkSoul60 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Just a reminder, all those problems created over the last 11 years were brought to us by the liberal government Yes, any time I need a reminder I come to this forum to listen to your brethren's wash rinse and repeat crying. It's not very becoming, but it's what you hacks do. 7 minutes ago, Army Guy said: if liberals can not deliver on their promises maybe it is time for them to step aside... Yes, I said that. The voters will determine whether he should step aside or not...but that sure doesn't appear to be trending in your desired direction does it. 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 On 2/20/2026 at 4:08 PM, Moonbox said: He lost the election, remains deeply unpopular with Canadians, has shown zero capacity for self-reflection and continues to bang the grievance bell at every opportunity. Again, what has changed? He's the same guy he was a year ago. If you think these MPs crossed the floor because of their conscience and deep care for their constituents you're naive. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Goddess Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 16 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Who's the truly miserable person? Well, It's not me who uses this forum as a place to vent and contribute nothing but insults....... So, I'd say it's YOU that's the miserable person. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 24 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Again, what has changed? He's the same guy he was a year ago. I've already responded to this...😑 24 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: If you think these MPs crossed the floor because of their conscience and deep care for their constituents you're naive. I think they crossed the floor because they can't stand Poilievre, like most of Canada. 1 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Goddess Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 15 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: making a deal with an infantile and petulant narcissist is difficult, And yet every other country has been able to do so. 15 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Impressed with his background and skill set would better sum it up. His skill set is acquiring contracts for Brookfield to build up his own portfolio and setting up tax havens in the Cayman Islands & Bermuda. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
LinkSoul60 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Goddess said: And yet every other country has been able to do so. You mean signing up for high tariffs rates that you'd complain about if Canada did the same, right..? Or the tariff agreements he changes as often as he changes his depends? It's one or the other. 10 minutes ago, Goddess said: His skill set is acquiring contracts for Brookfield to build up his own portfolio and setting up tax havens in the Cayman Islands & Bermuda. Really....is that all you got? If you took a break from visiting your far right rebel news type sites and got outdoors more you'd realize the world is not one big conspiracy. Try it sometime.... Quote
John Johnston Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 On 2/18/2026 at 3:42 PM, Legato said: That's rich coming from our out of touch, cowering in fear of Poilivere, bumfoddering flybaby. don't forget, bloodspot here--------> Nobody, but nobody is afraid of a 25 year trough dweller. People just don't like or respect him. Milhouse thought a make over would win over Canadians, he basically thought Canadians were stupid. And thus he lost, and will lose again. 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Nobody, but nobody is afraid of a 25 year trough dweller. People just don't like or respect him. Milhouse thought a make over would win over Canadians, he basically thought Canadians were stupid. And thus he lost, and will lose again. Poilievre come up on this board alone quite a lot, the fear is evident, The MSM run constant hit pieces, so yes many weak minded people fear him. Why do you fear him? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Yes, you soothe yourself to sleep with yiour false beliefs. If they were false you could refute them. But you can't Sounds like you are the one trying to soothe yourself to sleep not me Quote It's US businesses that want more Chinese goods. Nothing to do with Trump. You were the one that brought trump up you tard And of course trump is dealing with china. Childish of you to pretend otherwise Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Chrissy1979 Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 5 hours ago, Goddess said: Well, It's not me who uses this forum as a place to vent and contribute nothing but insults....... So, I'd say it's YOU that's the miserable person. Nasty insults like, "hey, remember David Emerson?" Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 In December of 2003, 80-something MPs crossed the floor from the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservative Party to the Conservative Party of Canada. I’m still clutching my pearls about why we didn’t have 80+ by-elections None of the people in any of those ridings voted for the CPC. 1 Quote
herbie Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 And all those Deformed party MPs instantly forgot about electoral reforms, EEE Senate, etc. and turned into cranky old get off my lawn anti-immigrant, anti-environment, Islamophobic homophobes. Gave up their ideaqlistic nonsense for popu;list simplism. Axe Duhh Tax,,, 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Nasty insults like, "hey, remember David Emerson?" David Emerson is a classic example of why crossing the floor should still be allowed He became a politician for one reason, and when the liberals didn't win harper went to him and said you're the very very best person to leave these negotiations and that's why you said you got into politics, i'll give you the chance to do it. And he took it and he never ran for politics again after he negotiated the deal. His defection was not any harm to the liberals or nor any benefit to the conservatives politically, it just allowed Canada to get the absolute very best Lumber deal possible. You don't read a lot of history do you? 2 hours ago, herbie said: And all those Deformed party MPs instantly forgot about electoral reforms, EEE Senate, etc. and turned into cranky old get off my lawn anti-immigrant, anti-environment, Islamophobic homophobes. Gave up their ideaqlistic nonsense for popu;list simplism. Axe Duhh Tax,,, Literally the opposite of the truth but that's not shock ain't coming from you Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goddess Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Nasty insults like, "hey, remember David Emerson?" I don't give a sh!t what you think. You support the party who lets rapists and pedos loose on the streets and welcomes terrorists and criminals into our country and fight for MORE of them to be let in and calls everyone a traitor and a racist if they don't agree with you. Your thinking is warped. You're a psycho. Edited February 24 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Chrissy1979 Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Goddess said: I don't give a sh!t what you think. You support the party who lets rapists and pedos loose on the streets and welcomes terrorists and criminals into our country and fight for MORE of them to be let in and calls everyone a traitor and a racist if they don't agree with you. Your thinking is warped. You're a psycho. Yes, I could certainly learn a lot about how to be less miserable and insulting from you. Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: In December of 2003, 80-something MPs crossed the floor from the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservative Party to the Conservative Party of Canada. Yup, the poor dears didn't know whether to shit or go blind in those days. That said they did name themselves the Conservative Reform Alliance Party so - it only took them a couple days to get the joke as I recall. 🤣 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: Yes, I could certainly learn a lot about how to be less miserable and insulting from you. You could Learn how to be less miserable from an irate badger. That bar isn't terribly high in your case 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Moonlight Graham Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 17 hours ago, Moonbox said: I think they crossed the floor because they can't stand Poilievre, like most of Canada. You're naive. If the CPC had won the election and PP was PM you think they still cross the floor? Not a chance. 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Goddess Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 12 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Yes, I could certainly learn a lot about how to be less miserable and insulting from you. You really could. I hope your day is better today. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 5 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: You're naive. If the CPC had won the election and PP was PM you think they still cross the floor? Not a chance. Maybe not, but winning lends you a certain credibility Poilievre currently lacks and at least would have given him a mandate to actually do something other than screech at your opponents. It also helps if your leader doesn't regularly poll below the rest of the Party. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Maybe not, but winning lends you a certain credibility Poilievre currently lacks and at least would have given him a mandate to actually do something other than screech at your opponents. It also helps if your leader doesn't regularly poll below the rest of the Party. It has nothing to do with credibility and even you whose knowledge of politics is extremely limited know damn well that has everything to do with the fact that Crossing the floor to the party in power means personal gain. If the roles were reversed you can bet there are liberals that will be crossing the floor to the CPC. I would certainly seen that kind of thing many times in history including with the actual CPC, not just other conservative parties This is nothing to do with credibility or leaders or anything. This has to do with the fact that if they cross the floor they get vastly more money, perks in positions and power that they wouldn't have had otherwise, and considering the deals that carney seems to be offering now that's even more true than normal If you want to be extremely charitable you could argue that being in power allows them to do more for the communities that they serve and that's their reason for doing it, but I think we both know that's probably not the driving force. But it's got crap all to do with the leaders Edited February 24 by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goddess Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Maybe not, but winning lends you a certain credibility Poilievre currently lacks and at least would have given him a mandate to actually do something other than screech at your opponents. It also helps if your leader doesn't regularly poll below the rest of the Party. Oh please. Jesus Christ could be the leader of the Conservatives and you would still vote for corruption, crime and suffering. Don't act like the leader has anything to do with anything, to you. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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