Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 15 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Canada exploring trade options with China and every other country is something a hostile America under Trump is forcing upon us; we simply have to review all our relationships now that our closest friend has gone rogue. How any patriotic Canadian could find excuses for the US under such dire circumstances is beyond me. How many patriotic Canadians could find excuses to rub bellies with China is beyond everything. 1 1 Quote
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 10 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Jivani is the first example I would cite, a disgraceful performance. The MAGA/PPC wing has thrown its lot in with our enemies. Shame on them. Let them cheer for the US in the hockey. That’s all they’re good for. Do you seriously consider the US under the Trump administration more of a threat than China? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Legato said: There is no Maga/PPC wing, ... ... Jivani was one man who accused people like yourself as having an anti-American hissy fit,.... The Carney bends over backward to please Trump so there's your Maga man. Show me one item that substantiates your claim. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Show me one item that substantiates your claim. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0vv2pe7ydo https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ivison-bending-knee-to-trump-is-cratering-carneys-credibility There's much more, you know that. Feigning ignorance is your go-to excuse when confronted with facts. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 2 hours ago, ironstone said: Do you seriously consider the US under the Trump administration more of a threat than China? 55% of Canadians do. Why are you surprised? 22 hours ago, Legato said: What's this fictitious Maga-wing you're on about, give us some examples. You're saying you don't want to make Canada great again according to the same hard-boiled right-wing means and methods Trump prescribes? A solid 1/3 of Poilievre's supporters sure do. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: 55% of Canadians do. Why are you surprised? I guess that proves that the non-stop anti-Trump rhetoric from the Canadian mainstream media is extremely effective. At the same time, they basically ignore what the CCP is doing on our soil. 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: 55% of Canadians do. Why are you surprised? You're saying you don't want to make Canada great again according to the same hard-boiled right-wing means and methods Trump prescribes? A solid 1/3 of Poilievre's supporters sure do. I'm saying? More fairy tale conjecture from the fairy expert. Conjure up this 1/3 nonsense from some pixie dust lets see how solid you can make it. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 15 minutes ago, ironstone said: I guess that proves that the non-stop anti-Trump rhetoric from the Canadian mainstream media is extremely effective. At the same time, they basically ignore what the CCP is doing on our soil. No one is ignoring that, but they know it's mice nuts compared to Trump's threats of annexation. That's been a lot more effective in shaping Canadians views. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 16 minutes ago, Legato said: I'm saying? I don't know, that's why I asked you. 27 minutes ago, Legato said: Conjure up this 1/3 nonsense from some pixie dust lets see how solid you can make it. Go conjure it up yourself, it'll seem more real to you that way. But in the meanttime I asked AI for news and opinion sources stating 1/4 to 1/2 of Poilievre's base of support is from so-called Maple MAGA and this was the result. Recent opinion and analytical pieces characterizing Pierre Poilievre’s base of support as heavily influenced by "Maple MAGA" (a term used to describe a Canadian version of Donald Trump's movement) often cite proportions ranging from one-quarter to one-half of his core following. Specific Proportions and Estimates "Half of the Electoral Base": Some social media-based political analyses and community forum discussions argue that approximately half of the Conservative Party's current electoral base is ideologically aligned with Trump and "Maple MAGA" politics. "One-Quarter" Alignment: Other analyses suggest a smaller but significant core, often citing that while Poilievre has broad appeal, about 25-30% of his supporters represent a more "hardline" or "Maple MAGA" faction that mirrors U.S. populist rhetoric and tactics. They even have merch. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Legato said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0vv2pe7ydo https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ivison-bending-knee-to-trump-is-cratering-carneys-credibility There's much more, you know that. Feigning ignorance is your go-to excuse when confronted with facts. The White House says??? LOL. Of course they do LOL "apologizing for the Reagan ad"? from Ford? From a year ago is what you say is "The Carney bends over backward to please Trump " A White House quote and apologizing for a Ford phk up LOL C'mon, ya gotta do better than that LOL Edited February 21 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No one is ignoring that, but they know it's mice nuts compared to Trump's threats of annexation. That's been a lot more effective in shaping Canadians views. That's quite a lot of gullible people if they really take that seriously. Pretty sad when so many people think that the brutal Communist dictatorship of China is less of a threat than our good friends to the south. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 46 minutes ago, eyeball said: I don't know, that's why I asked you. Go conjure it up yourself, it'll seem more real to you that way. But in the meanttime I asked AI for news and opinion sources stating 1/4 to 1/2 of Poilievre's base of support is from so-called Maple MAGA and this was the result. Recent opinion and analytical pieces characterizing Pierre Poilievre’s base of support as heavily influenced by "Maple MAGA" (a term used to describe a Canadian version of Donald Trump's movement) often cite proportions ranging from one-quarter to one-half of his core following. Specific Proportions and Estimates "Half of the Electoral Base": Some social media-based political analyses and community forum discussions argue that approximately half of the Conservative Party's current electoral base is ideologically aligned with Trump and "Maple MAGA" politics. "One-Quarter" Alignment: Other analyses suggest a smaller but significant core, often citing that while Poilievre has broad appeal, about 25-30% of his supporters represent a more "hardline" or "Maple MAGA" faction that mirrors U.S. populist rhetoric and tactics. They even have merch. I could quite easily say most of the Liberal party is aligned with China but the flybaby would have a meltdown and require medical attention. Quote
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 40 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: The White House says??? LOL. Of course they do LOL "apologizing for the Reagan ad"? from Ford? From a year ago is what you say is "The Carney bends over backward to please Trump " A White House quote and apologizing for a Ford phk up LOL C'mon, ya gotta do better than that LOL What sort of nonsense is that? Do try to keep up. There are many articles showing the Carney genuflecting to Trump. Ignore them at your peril. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Legato said: What sort of nonsense is that? Do try to keep up. There are many articles showing the Carney genuflecting to Trump. Ignore them at your peril. Nonsense? They were your links.. A White House press release and Canada expressing an apology for a disruptive advertisement that was pulled?? Seems you could not find any LOL. So, try again LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 On 2/18/2026 at 4:27 PM, Moonbox said: That's true, but the Liberals still had ~45% of the vote in the last election. No, I am thinking of Canada. It's literally how it works. You vote for a candidate. That candidate can have a party affiliation, or he/she can be independent. An affiliated candidate can also be booted from their party, and that doesn't trigger a bi-election. That's about as good an indication as any for "how it works". No that's not how it works....any candidate that runs under a party banner must be approved by the "party"...or run as an independent, they will be vetted for many things one of them is electability....Independents have no real power in the house, unlike a party member who can bring many things to his riding....Most voters vote for the party they want to be in power...or who they want as PM...not some Candidate that may not even have a role to play in the sitting government...or they vote for someone else because they don't want a certain party to win...ie all those NDP votes that went to the liberals because they did not want PP to win.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 25 minutes ago, ironstone said: That's quite a lot of gullible people if they really take that seriously. Trump has put a lot of effort into persuading people to take him seriously, like starting a trade war against us. Or do you think that's just another inconsequential red herring he's using to distract people? Trump's apologists have played this gullibility card fairly routinely during his terms in power. And the explanation is usually just a parroting of the brainfarts he uses to explain himself. 44 minutes ago, ironstone said: Pretty sad when so many people think that the brutal Communist dictatorship of China is less of a threat than our good friends to the south. Speaking of gullibility you silly people have long since convinced yourselves you're already trapped in a communist dictatorship - or fascist or caliphate depending on your mood that day. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 46 minutes ago, Legato said: I could quite easily say most of the Liberal party is aligned with China but... Yeah but to you people this means the PMO actually takes its orders directly from Xi Jinping. Yes your thinking really is that loosy goosie and uncritical. It's rooted in the same ridiculous fog of misinformation that informs people the PMO is also the CBC's editorial room. It seems there's just no attempt whatsoever to temper this way of thinking. Why? Does it really all just boil down to partisanship and ideology, seriously? Life's too short. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 21 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yeah but to you people this means the PMO actually takes its orders directly from Xi Jinping. Yes your thinking really is that loosy goosie and uncritical. It's rooted in the same ridiculous fog of misinformation that informs people the PMO is also the CBC's editorial room. It seems there's just no attempt whatsoever to temper this way of thinking. Why? Does it really all just boil down to partisanship and ideology, seriously? Life's too short. Just ask some of his appointees. It is. Ask Rosemary Barton she has a foggy bottom. Nothing to temper. Facts seem to bother you, why is that? Quote
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 18 minutes ago, Legato said: Nothing to temper. Facts seem to bother you, why is that? What facts? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 On 2/20/2026 at 12:37 PM, Legato said: Yet here we are with the Carney making deals with China and people like yourself cheering it on. Don't forget to mention the conservative canola farmers in AB, SK and MB who have cheered the deal, and can't forget about the conservative NS and NB lobster and crab fishermen who also cheered the deal. I'd also expect those in the market for an inexpensive electric vehicle to cheer it as well. Not a big revelation but your political bias is on full display in this thread. For what it's worth....you're failing spectacularly. Quote
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Trump has put a lot of effort into persuading people to take him seriously, like starting a trade war against us. Or do you think that's just another inconsequential red herring he's using to distract people? Trump's apologists have played this gullibility card fairly routinely during his terms in power. And the explanation is usually just a parroting of the brainfarts he uses to explain himself. Speaking of gullibility you silly people have long since convinced yourselves you're already trapped in a communist dictatorship - or fascist or caliphate depending on your mood that day. Tell that to Barry Neufeld who was fined $750,000 by the BC Human Rights Commission for saying their are only two genders. C-63 sounds rather ominous according to some. "The Bill C-63 intends to increase penalties for what it deems the "willful promotion of hatred," raising the potential prison time from two years to five years. Furthermore, the legislation suggests that if someone is convicted of views supportive of genocide, the current maximum penalty of five years could be extended to a life sentence." https://www.tftc.io/canada-bill-c63-life-imprisonment-speech-crimes/ As far as 'trade wars' go, if Trump started a trade war against Canada by imposing tariffs, then by that same logic did Canada also start a trade war with China last October then they imposed tariffs on Chinese EV's? Trump tariffs-bad, Canadian tariffs-good? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
LinkSoul60 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 2 hours ago, ironstone said: That's quite a lot of gullible people if they really take that seriously. Pretty sad when so many people think that the brutal Communist dictatorship of China is less of a threat than our good friends to the south. You mean our good friend to the South, as in Trump right? Heck yeah what a good friend he is in trying to break our economy. Wish we had more friends like that... You're right though....a lot of gullible people out there (and here too). Quote
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: You mean our good friend to the South, as in Trump right? Heck yeah what a good friend he is in trying to break our economy. Wish we had more friends like that... You're right though....a lot of gullible people out there (and here too). Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden. All Democrats. Both Democrats and Republicans have put tariffs on Canada at one time or another. The prudent course of action from Canada should be to try and work it out. But not Mark Carney. All either imposed or maintained tariffs on Canada. At least for Clinton and Biden, I don't recall Canadians ever losing their minds over those actions like they have with regards to Trump. I don't think Carney cares too much about the impact on Canada since most of his wealth comes from American companies that he chose to invest in. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: What facts? 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: Don't forget to mention the conservative canola farmers in AB, SK and MB who have cheered the deal, and can't forget about the conservative NS and NB lobster and crab fishermen who also cheered the deal. I'd also expect those in the market for an inexpensive electric vehicle to cheer it as well. Not a big revelation but your political bias is on full display in this thread. For what it's worth....you're failing spectacularly. You blabbering about the time your hero Trudeau slapped tariff's on Chinese cars and China retaliated by slapping a 84% tariff on Canola and then the Carney had to slink off to China with cap in hand "please Mr Jinping just tell me how I can offer some kind of appeasement". That deal? The deal that may happen sometime in March. Go back to watching The View. Quote
eyeball Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 22 minutes ago, ironstone said: Tell that to Barry Neufeld who was fined $750,000 by the BC Human Rights Commission for saying their are only two genders. I know, it's ridiculous. But what's it got to do with Trump? 25 minutes ago, ironstone said: As far as 'trade wars' go, if Trump started a trade war against Canada by imposing tariffs, then by that same logic did Canada also start a trade war with China last October then they imposed tariffs on Chinese EV's? Trump tariffs-bad, Canadian tariffs-good? I would have supported a trade war with China decades ago simply based on human rights. Trump's reason for starting a war with us is ridiculous bullshit. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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