BeaverFever Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux crosses the floor to join the Liberals OTTAWA—Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux has crossed the floor putting the Liberal government within reach of a majority. Prime Minister Mark Carney made the announcement on social media Wednesday morning saying the Edmonton MP is joining the Liberal caucus. “I am honoured to welcome Matt Jeneroux to our caucus as the newest member of Canada’s new government,” said Carney online. “Building a stronger, more resilient, and more independent country will require ambition, collaboration, and occasionally, sacrifice. I am grateful to Matt and his family that he will continue his service as a strong voice for Edmonton Riverbend in Parliament.” Last fall, amid rumours that he was preparing to cross the floor, Jeneroux announced that he would instead resign his seat in Parliament sometime this spring. In his own statement posted online, Jeneroux said after talking with his family and constituents he realizes now he can best serve the country from the Liberal benches. “The events of the past year, and even of recent weeks, have presented Canada with unprecedented new global pressures on our prosperity, and accelerated threats to our sovereignty and unity,” he said. “For Canada, this is a moment that demands steady leadership, constructive collaboration between all parliamentarians, and a willingness to stand up and serve even when the path is not easy.” There are currently three vacant seats in Parliament where Carney is expected to hold byelections. The Liberals held those seats prior to them becoming vacant and if they continue to do so after the byelections the party will have a majority government. https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/conservative-mp-matt-jeneroux-crosses-the-floor-to-join-the-liberals/article_589d86cb-9da9-4058-b7f8-04cb27c83ba5.html 1 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 (edited) Just what we said would happen just a few months ago, while the conservative members of this forum shrieked their denials and insisted he was still a true blue conservative leaving politics for personal reasons. The best thing that ever happened to conservatives on this forum was disabling the search feature so they never have admit when they’re wrong. Edited February 18 by BeaverFever 2 Quote
ironstone Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Keep cheering like it's a sporting event and your 'team' is winning. Meanwhile...https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/economics/2026/02/17/food-inflation-spiked-73-in-january-heres-whats-driving-the-increase/ Many Canadians are really struggling to put food on the table...and Liberals give rebates for pricey EV's? 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
BeaverFever Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 30 minutes ago, ironstone said: Keep cheering like it's a sporting event and your 'team' is winning. Meanwhile...https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/economics/2026/02/17/food-inflation-spiked-73-in-january-heres-whats-driving-the-increase/ Many Canadians are really struggling to put food on the table...and Liberals give rebates for pricey EV's? LOL cheering that your team is winning is why republicans are supporting all of Trump’s abuse and corruption, mismanagement and even worse inflation, which in Trump’s case is largely self-inflicted with his stupid tariff tax on his own people. Anything to “pwn” the libs! Meanwhile in Canada there are also rebates for cost of living and groceries and the EV rebates are also for affordable EVs. 1 Quote
ironstone Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Meanwhile in Canada there are also rebates for cost of living and groceries and the EV rebates are also for affordable EVs. Rebates...government is giving back a tiny portion of money ...that was paid to the government....by the hard-pressed taxpayer. So in the eyes of a typical leftist....government is the hero...Mark Carney is the knight in shining armor coming to our rescue!🙄 A typical Liberal band aid 'solution'. The debt just keeps growing and growing. 11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LOL cheering that your team is winning is why republicans are supporting all of Trump’s abuse and corruption, mismanagement and even worse inflation, which in Trump’s case is largely self-inflicted with his stupid tariff tax on his own people. Anything to “pwn” the libs! Always goes back to Trump doesn't it? 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Just what we said would happen just a few months ago, while the conservative members of this forum shrieked their denials and insisted he was still a true blue conservative leaving politics for personal reasons. The best thing that ever happened to conservatives on this forum was disabling the search feature so they never have admit when they’re wrong. Nobody denied this, just about every poster said there was probably one more floor Crosser. Sounds like they kept negotiating it eventually carney met his price. Sadly for Carney due to the recent court ruling it still doesn't give him a majority nor is it likely to And it is you who benefits from not being able to search. Although it doesn't stop you from changing your tune mid-thread often enough where we can still see 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LOL cheering that your team is winning is why republicans are supporting all of Trump’s abuse and corruption, mismanagement and even worse inflation, which in Trump’s case is largely self-inflicted with his stupid tariff tax on his own people. Anything to “pwn” the libs! Meanwhile in Canada there are also rebates for cost of living and groceries and the EV rebates are also for affordable EVs. Oh yes the cheap EV's which manufacturers are already bumping prices to match the rebate. How about a brand new Fiat 500 EV state of the art matchbox with nearly 4 wheels. 1 1 Quote
Shady Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Canadian politics has degraded into back room deals, completely ignoring the will of voters now. It’s banana republic type stuff. 1 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Poilievre is becoming a lame duck. If the Libs hold a majority, he will be stuck without a hope of an election for 3 more years. The Libs won’t need to try and get him onside with anything, he can’t even seem to control his own caucus. Look at the Giovani guy going to meet with Trump and pooping on Canada when he returned. If the Libs win the byelection and get a majority, there’s a 50/50 chance of a cabinet revolt and Poilievre being ejected as leader. 2 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) Seizing a majority through several floor crossings is against the will of the voters in those ridings and therefore undemocratic. If it goes to majority an election should be triggered immediately or by-elections in those ridings. Carney and those Conservative MPs should be ashamed of themselves. Edited February 18 by Moonlight Graham 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 42 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Poilievre is becoming a lame duck. If the Libs hold a majority, he will be stuck without a hope of an election for 3 more years. The Libs won’t need to try and get him onside with anything, he can’t even seem to control his own caucus. Look at the Giovani guy going to meet with Trump and pooping on Canada when he returned. If the Libs win the byelection and get a majority, there’s a 50/50 chance of a cabinet revolt and Poilievre being ejected as leader. Of course the Libs are going to win the next election. They bring in 2 million voters a year. There's no possible way any other party can make up that ground. Liberals will get 1 party rule by the end of this year. then we will be no different than Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea. Liberal supporters will absolutely LOVE this because the media will tell them to. Bread lines are GREAT because you get to spend hours with all your neighbours talking about how lucky we are that our government cares so much about us. 2 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
BeaverFever Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, ironstone said: Rebates...government is giving back a tiny portion of money ...that was paid to the government....by the hard-pressed taxpayer. So in the eyes of a typical leftist....government is the hero...Mark Carney is the knight in shining armor coming to our rescue!🙄 A typical Liberal band aid 'solution'. The debt just keeps growing and growing. Always goes back to Trump doesn't it? You are so deranged you don’t know what you’re talking about or complaining about. Carney didn’t cause this inflation but he’s giving Canadians a break on their taxes to help them manage affordability issues that Trump’s trade war on the world is exacerbating amd in some cases causing. And ye it comes back to Trump when a Trump worshipper like yourself tries to criticize others for things that are also happening under Trump and because of Trump Carney is leading in the polls and conservatives are crossing the floor to his team because people agree they are doing the right thing. Meanwhile Poilievre is increasingly unpopular and Trump has the lowest approval ratings in recent history 1 Quote
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Seizing a majority through several floor crossings is against the will of the voters in those ridings and therefore undemocratic. If it goes to majority an election should be triggered immediately or by-elections in those ridings. Carney and those Conservative MPs should be ashamed of themselves. If voters no longer know who is going to switch sides for a special position or a travel perk, then ya. Democracy is dead in Canada. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: You are so deranged you don’t know what you’re talking about or complaining about. Carney didn’t cause this inflation but he’s giving Canadians a break on their taxes to help them manage affordability issues that Trump’s trade war on the world is exacerbating amd in some cases causing. The Liberals poor policies and decision making is the cause of this inflation. Not all of our problems can be blamed on Trump. The budget is being discussed in Senate hearing right now and the PBO has just said that the tax cuts will only benefit Canadians who are already doing well enough. Those barely getting by will fall further behind and that is 25% of Canadians right now. FFS, the grocery rebate is supposed to go to 12 million Canadians! 12 million people can no longer afford to eat. How the F do you view that as a win for Liberal policies? You know, the real job of government happens in the committees, not in CBC headlines. If you guys watched more of those, you'd see how badly the CBC is misleading and lying to the public. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 I think ALL of our politicians know Canada is toast. These floor-crossers are just trying to get closer to the trough before there's nothing left. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Seizing a majority through several floor crossings is against the will of the voters in those ridings and therefore undemocratic. The voters chose the individual MP, not the party. That individual is free to exercise his/her own judgement and follow their conscience with their constituency in mind. That constituency is not limited to just the people who voted for the MP. With party power and messaging centralizing more and more under Harper's and especially Trudeau's leadership, floor crossings are a good and necessary check. The outrage over the 300+ floor crossings Canada has seen since 1867 is largely performative. This is how it's supposed to work. Edited February 18 by Moonbox 1 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Shady Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 The recent floor crossers riding has never voted Liberal in its entire existence. Just now, Moonbox said: The voters chose the individual MP, not the party. That individual is free to exercise his/her own judgement and follow their conscience with their constituency in mind. That constituency is not limited to just the people who voted for the MP. With party power and messaging centralizing more and more under Harper's and especially Trudeau's leadership, floor crossings are a good and necessary check. The outrage over the 300+ floor crossings Canada has seen since 1867 is largely performative. This is how it's supposed to work. No, that’s actually the opposite of how it works. You’re thinking of the United States. This particular riding has never voted Liberal but you think they voted for the individual? F**k off. 1 1 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, Shady said: No, that’s actually the opposite of how it works It’s literally how it works. It may be the opposite of how you want it to work, given your party is the one losing seats, but it really is how it works. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Nothing says "I totally consulted with my constituents and they all want me to join the Liberal party" like locking down your account so you can't hear from your constituents. 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 16 minutes ago, Shady said: The recent floor crossers riding has never voted Liberal in its entire existence. That's true, but the Liberals still had ~45% of the vote in the last election. 16 minutes ago, Shady said: No, that’s actually the opposite of how it works. You’re thinking of the United States. This particular riding has never voted Liberal but you think they voted for the individual? F**k off. No, I am thinking of Canada. It's literally how it works. You vote for a candidate. That candidate can have a party affiliation, or he/she can be independent. An affiliated candidate can also be booted from their party, and that doesn't trigger a bi-election. That's about as good an indication as any for "how it works". 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, Moonbox said: No, I am thinking of Canada. It's literally how it works. You vote for a candidate. That candidate can have a party affiliation, or he/she can be independent. An affiliated candidate can also be booted from their party, and that doesn't trigger a bi-election. That's about as good an indication as any for "how it works". So.....what is the point of voting then, if the person you vote for gets to choose which party he/she is going to work for and constituents have no say in that? 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Wow. Thank you, Treebeard and MoonFace. I never, ever, ever knew that's how voting in Canada worked. I never knew that the person who is elected gets to flip-flop around between whatever party makes them a better offer and who gives a sh!t about what the voters in their area want. That is great information. And another good reason for Alberta to separate. 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ironstone Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: You are so deranged you don’t know what you’re talking about or complaining about. Carney didn’t cause this inflation but he’s giving Canadians a break on their taxes to help them manage affordability issues that Trump’s trade war on the world is exacerbating amd in some cases causing. And ye it comes back to Trump when a Trump worshipper like yourself tries to criticize others for things that are also happening under Trump and because of Trump Carney is leading in the polls and conservatives are crossing the floor to his team because people agree they are doing the right thing. Meanwhile Poilievre is increasingly unpopular and Trump has the lowest approval ratings in recent history Carney himself admitted that Canada was already weak well before Trump came along. I have mentioned this a number of times but you likely wouldn't be aware of this admission because of your TDS affliction. You hate Trump...but have no issue with Carney bringing Canada closer to the CCP? I'm no Trump worshipper but he is without question, a much better choice than anyone on the Democrat side since they've gone so far left...just as Canadian Liberals have done since 2015. In your topsy turvy world, nothing bad in Canada can be blamed on the Liberals. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) 3 hours ago, ironstone said: Keep cheering like it's a sporting event and your 'team' is winning. Meanwhile...https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/economics/2026/02/17/food-inflation-spiked-73-in-january-heres-whats-driving-the-increase/ Many Canadians are really struggling to put food on the table...and Liberals give rebates for pricey EV's? yet...conservative members keep crossing the floor... "Pierre Poilievre may have won the endorsement of the party rank-and-file at the Calgary convention, but the party establishment – MPs, party officials, the pros – know he’s toast." - Andrew Coyne, Globe and Mail, February 18, 2026 Some more excerpts from Coyne's article today about Conservative MP Jamil Jivani's "trade" trip to the US and Poilievre's future: In his comments on the trip, in both the Canadian media and American, Mr. Jivani instead seemed to go out of his way to paint the American side as reasonable and sympathetic (“Tell the Canadians I love them,” he reported Mr. Trump as having said), the Canadian side as unreasonable and motivated by anti-Americanism. In one infamous outburst, he dismissed Canadian objections to Mr. Trump’s unprovoked attacks on the country as a “hissy-fit.” A particular Trump administration complaint, that Canada was not being as “pragmatic” as Mexico, was echoed nearly word-for-word. Even that might have been bearable, had Mr. Jivani not dressed the whole thing up as a high-minded, country-before-party exercise in bipartisanship, to which only bitter partisans could object. It was nothing of the kind. It wasn’t even partisanship, if you mean something likely to advance the Conservative cause, as a good many Conservative MPs will tell you. So what was it, then? A bit of self-promotion, certainly, but of a particular kind. By so conspicuously aligning himself with Mr. Trump, Mr. Jivani was laying claim, I think, to the leadership of the MAGA wing of the Conservative Party. That is, I am sorry to say, a sizable chunk of the party base. Polls show somewhere between one-quarter and one-half of Conservative supporters approve of Mr. Trump, notwithstanding his threats to impoverish and annex the country. The post-Poilievre leadership race, in other words, is already under way. Pierre Poilievre may have won the endorsement of the party rank-and-file at the Calgary convention, but the party establishment – MPs, party officials, the pros – know he’s toast. The Conservatives are nine or 10 points behind the Liberals in the polls. Mr. Poilievre is 20 points or more behind Mark Carney. And the reason is Mr. Trump. Whenever the U.S. President starts bashing Canada, the Liberals go up in the polls, the Conservatives go down, and the divisions within the Conservative ranks, between the pro- and anti-Trump wings, or between those preaching defiance and those preaching appeasement, grow deeper. That is only likely to get worse, because Mr. Trump’s behaviour is only likely to get worse. Like his predecessors as party leader, Mr. Poilievre has attempted to straddle that divide. He has been more successful at it than they, but only because he has been more willing to cater to the MAGA side. Even in his speech to the convention, he could not bring himself to say Mr. Trump’s name. That has cost him support among the broader public. But it has also failed to buy more than short-term peace in the party. As things heat up between Canada and the U.S., the pressure on the Conservative Party will grow; as the cracks in the party open wider, straddling will prove increasingly uncomfortable. A house divided cannot stand. The Conservative Party will have to decide, once and for all, which side it is on. The coming leadership race will tell the tale. Edited February 18 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Seizing a majority through several floor crossings is against the will of the voters in those ridings and therefore undemocratic. If it goes to majority an election should be triggered immediately or by-elections in those ridings. Carney and those Conservative MPs should be ashamed of themselves. Maybe the MP's that are crossing the floor get to see and hear what is really going on (as opposed to your conjecture and facebook rumours) and decide it is best for their constituents to move away from PP? 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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