Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux crosses the floor to join the Liberals

[LinkSoul60]

27 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden. All Democrats. Both Democrats and Republicans have put tariffs on Canada at one time or another. The prudent course of action from Canada should be to try and work it out. But not Mark Carney.

 

All either imposed or maintained tariffs on Canada. At least for Clinton and Biden, I don't recall Canadians ever losing their minds over those actions like they have with regards to Trump.

I don't think Carney cares too much about the impact on Canada since most of his wealth comes from American companies that he chose to invest in.

He has tried to make it work.  You're obviously not paying attention... and you're certainly not in the lumber, steel or auto sectors that have been thrashed with job losses.  Think maybe they have a right to 'lose their minds' over someone trying to decimate their livelihoods?  

Of course you don't think Carney cares much....you're politically bias.  Fortunately ~70% of Canadian's think he's on the right track.

Edited February 21 by LinkSoul60

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

You blabbering about the time your hero Trudeau slapped tariff's on Chinese cars and China retaliated by slapping a 84% tariff on Canola and then the Carney had to slink off to China with cap in hand "please Mr Jinping just tell me how I can offer some kind of appeasement". That deal? The deal that may happen sometime in March.

Go back to watching The View.

As usual, you got nothing....  Just a conservative hack. No high fives for the conservatives who lauded the deal though?

My hero Trudeau?  You apparently have me confused with someone else.

Again, you're failing spectacularly in this thread....  

[LinkSoul60]

On 2/20/2026 at 12:37 PM, Legato said:

No matter how much lipstick you put on the pig the last 10 years have seen a massive decline in all what's Canadian, started by Trudeau and continuing with the Carney.

whaaaaa.....  lol!  

If you're capable of, please cite exactly how Carney is following Trudeau's path of decline? 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Show me one item that substantiates your claim.

Cut tariffs when told

Raised military spending when told

Cancelled digital service tax when told

Praised trump like a god at g7

Called trump to applolgize for ford AND for his speech at davos

Has done everything else trump as asked. 

Need more?

[Legato]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

As usual, you got nothing....  Just a conservative hack. No high fives for the conservatives who lauded the deal though?

My hero Trudeau?  You apparently have me confused with someone else.

Again, you're failing spectacularly in this thread....  

Failure, keep it up sunshine its spectacular.

 

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

whaaaaa.....  lol!  

If you're capable of, please cite exactly how Carney is following Trudeau's path of decline? 

A negative is still a negative when there are no positives.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

whaaaaa.....  lol!  

If you're capable of, please cite exactly how Carney is following Trudeau's path of decline? 

That is actually an accurate statement.

Our deficit is going up faster than it did under trudeau 

We're as divided and getting worse. Trump did more to bring us together than carney has. Carney has the provinces fighting each other, the first nations furious, and a bunch of other groups.

The exodus of investment money is actually increasing. 

Trudeau trashed our international trade and carney has topped even that:

"Following deficits of $933 million in 2023 and of $7.2 billion in 2024, Canada's annual trade deficit widened to $31.3 billion in 2025, the largest deficit since the year 2020."

GDP per capita continues to nose dive and is well below where we should be despite recent immigration slow downs. 

Is there another metric you wanted to measure by?

 

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

I know, it's ridiculous. But what's it got to do with Trump?

I would have supported a trade war with China decades ago simply based on human rights.

Trump's reason for starting a war with us is ridiculous bullshit.

 

 

We can't blame Trump for the loony leftist policies in this country. But most Canadians are more focused (obsessed?) with Trump rather than the mostly self inflicted problems we face.

Love him or hate him, Trump is doing what he thinks is best for his country. I don't get the same sense from Carney as I believe he is primarily motivated by greed and not what's best for Canada.

It's not a 'war', it's a trade dispute. Are his reasons any different than Canada putting 100% against the Chinese EV's last year? No doubt the CCP thought Canada's reason was also 'ridiculous bullshit'.

Why isn't Carney trying to resolve this dispute? Because the 'orange man bad' theme plays EXTREMELY well with leftist voters.

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Of course you don't think Carney cares much....you're politically bias.  Fortunately ~70% of Canadian's think he's on the right track.

The economic performance of Canada over the last ten years and even since Carney became PM don't really back up what most Canadians think about Carney and the Liberals.

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Failure, keep it up sunshine its spectacular.

 

A negative is still a negative when there are no positives.

 

Why no rebut.... don't you think the conservative farmers or fishermen cheered the tariff relief?  What's the problem with a Chinese car? Volvo's, Polestars and Buick Enclaves are coming from there. If someone can buy a good electric vehicle for under $35K I'm guessing there will be a good market for them.

I remember when my kids were young and every now and then when they made a statement on something I'd sometimes ask 'why'... their response from time to time similar to yours - 'because'.  Not much of an answer....   Get over the Carney thing. If he ran for the CPC you'd hail him as the second coming of christ.  

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, ironstone said:

The economic performance of Canada over the last ten years and even since Carney became PM don't really back up what most Canadians think about Carney and the Liberals.

Not following...  you start with the party line of "the last 10 years...' then to what most Canadians think about Carney and the Liberals.  What?

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

That is actually an accurate statement.

Our deficit is going up faster than it did under trudeau 

We're as divided and getting worse. Trump did more to bring us together than carney has. Carney has the provinces fighting each other, the first nations furious, and a bunch of other groups.

The exodus of investment money is actually increasing. 

Trudeau trashed our international trade and carney has topped even that:

"Following deficits of $933 million in 2023 and of $7.2 billion in 2024, Canada's annual trade deficit widened to $31.3 billion in 2025, the largest deficit since the year 2020."

GDP per capita continues to nose dive and is well below where we should be despite recent immigration slow downs. 

Is there another metric you wanted to measure by?

 

I wonder why?  

Responding to you is like talking to a wall because of your blatant anti-left and blind pro-right. Critical thinking is an important skill to carry throughout life... not dropping in your teens.  

In times like these we need an angry career soon to be ex-politician with no practical experience in anything rather than a polished and globally respected banker and proven business leader.  Couldn't agree more...

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Why isn't Carney trying to resolve this dispute? Because the 'orange man bad' theme plays EXTREMELY well with leftist voters.

My guess its because he realizes it's futile making a deal with a loony welcher.

That seems to be playing a lot better with the majority of normal Canadians who are in no mood to bend the knee to Trump.

Time is on our side now. Trump's tariffs are hurting Americans, he's feeling the heat and they don't call him Taco for nothing.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

My guess its because he realizes it's futile making a deal with a loony welcher.

 

But he called him a transformative leader economically. And he knew about trump before he even got elected and said he could handle this.

So what you're saying is you he has realized he has failed and that he was completely wrong when he said he could deal with trump

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But he called him a transformative leader economically. And he knew about trump before he even got elected and said he could handle this.

So what you're saying is you he has realized he has failed and that he was completely wrong when he said he could deal with trump

Lucky for us.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Lucky for us.

Lucky for us that he's a failure and can't handle trump?

Well, I suppose it is the weekend. I can understand if you're drinking

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Lucky for us that he's a failure and can't handle trump?

And luckier for us that Poilievre didn't win and give Trump everything he wants.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I wonder why?  

Largely because he lied about being able to get a deal with trump and to get more trade deals abroad. 

 

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Responding to you is like talking to a wall because of your blatant anti-left and blind pro-right. Critical thinking is an important skill to carry throughout life... not dropping in your teens.  

Every single thing i said is true.  And that's the real reason you don't like talking to me. 

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

In times like these we need an angry career soon to be ex-politician with no practical experience in anything rather than a polished and globally respected banker and proven business leader.  Couldn't agree more...

In times like this we need an experienced politician.

Only a radicalized lefty would suggest that it somehow bad to hire someone who has decades of experience in the job you need him to do.

If you needed heart surgery would you not ask for someone with experience in heart surgery? Or would you demand a plumber?

First you and your ilk demand that what we really need is someone with no experience such as a drama teacher and that's how we'll solve our problems. Now you suggesting again that having experience is bad and we need someone with absolutely no experience in politics to solve the problem and we're getting the same results

So we do the same thing we get the same results and you're mad and you want it to be my fault.What the hell is the matter with you? Or would that require a flowchart

Edited February 22 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

And luckier for us that Poilievre didn't win and give Trump everything he wants.

 

Carney one and gave him everything he wanted. Literally ANYTHING PP could have done would be an improvement. 

[Barquentine]

On 2/20/2026 at 3:18 PM, Legato said:

Many on the left are embracing China.

Got any proof of that?

Why does US trade with China keep rising under Trump? Is the Right there embracing China?

20 hours ago, Legato said:

There is no Maga/PPC wing, except in your head.

The Alberta separatists meeting with US.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/high-level-alberta-separatist-group-wont-confirm-which-members-of-trumps-administration-it-met-with/
"While an Alberta separatist group confirms it had meetings with U.S. officials over the past year, its leaders won’t say which members of U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration they have spoken with directly.
“We’re meeting at a very high level,” Alberta Prosperity Project legal counsel Jeffrey Rath said in an interview with CTV’s Question Period airing Sunday"

Or maybe you think they're 'Libtards' disguised with cowboy hats?

 

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Literally ANYTHING PP could have done would be an improvement. 

Aah, too bad we'll never know.

[Barquentine]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So we do the same thing we get the same results and you're mad and you want it to be my fault

Now you're talking about the Cons keeping PeePee as leader. And yes that's your fault( along with a few thousand other fools).

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Cut tariffs when told

Raised military spending when told

Cancelled digital service tax when told

Praised trump like a god at g7

Called trump to applolgize for ford AND for his speech at davos

Has done everything else trump as asked. 

Need more?

Cite??

Otherwise, like always.... only your opinion LOL

Yes...with evidence.

[ironstone]

11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not following...  you start with the party line of "the last 10 years...' then to what most Canadians think about Carney and the Liberals.  What?

It's the same government basically. Same Ministers from the Trudeau era. Economic numbers are no better.

You've clearly bought into 'it's a new government' talking point, hook, line and sinker.

Doesn't matter to you if the economy is weak, you're too busy fawning over the polished, worldly banker to notice what's going on.

[Legato]

12 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Why no rebut.... don't you think the conservative farmers or fishermen cheered the tariff relief?  What's the problem with a Chinese car? Volvo's, Polestars and Buick Enclaves are coming from there. If someone can buy a good electric vehicle for under $35K I'm guessing there will be a good market for them.

I remember when my kids were young and every now and then when they made a statement on something I'd sometimes ask 'why'... their response from time to time similar to yours - 'because'.  Not much of an answer....   Get over the Carney thing. If he ran for the CPC you'd hail him as the second coming of christ.  

Impossible to rebut a zero.

The Liberals caused the tariffs and and the Carney may (yes may) have got them reduced and your cheering for their screw up. Way to go sunshine.

 

[Goddess]

I see now that one of the worst things this Liberal party has done to Canada in the last 11 years is convince so many Canadians that all the power lies with the government.

😢

That they can do whatever they want and citizens have to just suck it up.

That an MP's seat belongs TO THAT MP, and not to the people.  So therefore the MP can do whatever they want, say whatever they need to say to get elected and THEN the MP gets to choose which party he will support.

It's incredibly sad seeing Moonface and others try to convince you that you have no power.  That the government has all power over you and your vote means nothing.

[Chrissy1979]

Don't worry. You will accept it as the longstanding legitimate parliamentary convention that it is when someone inevitably crosses the floor to the Conservatives again 

Edited February 22 by Chrissy1979