Legato Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Why CTV? Lockstep with the Carney Liberals, gushing praise and numerous complimentary fluff pieces. Last year CTV had an exaggerated positive Carney article on their website and 5 derogatory articles on Poilievre on the same day. Just another Bell Media Liberal shill outlet. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Well...Ottawa would keep their funds...and Albertains can pay only provincial taxes. Bonus! Alberta isn’t taking everything with them when they go. They will need to pay Canada for the losses incurred from lost resource revenue and they certainly won’t be keeping the same borders. If Alberta can go, so can Edmonton and Calgary. Those places won’t be voting for independence, so why wouldn’t they stay in Canada? 1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Who says who has the power? The federal government? Canadian law, obviously. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Impossible! They would lose the support from Canada! Any country with no Canadian federal government is a third world country. Oh please. You're just protecting Quebec's position in this. Could they survive without all the cash Ola? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 4 hours ago, herbie said: Alberta has none of those nor a distinct geographical justification Looking at you 51ster real hard…. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Oh please. You're just protecting Quebec's position in this. Could they survive without all the cash Ola? No, no. I'm being genuine of course. I think Alberta survives from subsidies to build pipelines, paid by the feds. The Albertans would be like Haiti if they dared to separate. Quote
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 33 minutes ago, Legato said: Lockstep with the Carney Liberals, gushing praise and numerous complimentary fluff pieces. Last year CTV had an exaggerated positive Carney article on their website and 5 derogatory articles on Poilievre on the same day. Just another Bell Media Liberal shill outlet. @CdnFox You want to straighten this guy out? You might risk being cancelled as a Trudope. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
QuebecOverCanada Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 33 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Alberta isn’t taking everything with them when they go. They will need to pay Canada for the losses incurred from lost resource revenue and they certainly won’t be keeping the same borders. If Alberta can go, so can Edmonton and Calgary. Those places won’t be voting for independence, so why wouldn’t they stay in Canada? Canadian law, obviously. You are right. Albertans would look like Haiti if they separated from the rest of Canada. Separatism leads to socialism and famines. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 36 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Have you read the Clarity Act? It does not give away Canada’s land just because of referendum results. How is that going to be enforced when Alberta becomes the 51st? You and what army? Quote
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, paxamericana said: How is that going to be enforced when Alberta becomes the 51st? You and what army? NATO. Heck by some accounts around here we could probably get the Chinese army onside too. Edited January 30 by eyeball 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said: No, no. I'm being genuine of course. I think Alberta survives from subsidies to build pipelines, paid by the feds. The Albertans would be like Haiti if they dared to separate. You mean it would look like Quebec? Hardly... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: NATO. Heck by some accounts around here we could probably get the Chinese army onside too. Right the Chinese and European is just going to sail right past the world’s best Navy just save the dainty Canadians? And fight a war on another continent on America’s home turf? Dream on I guess. Edited January 30 by paxamericana Quote
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Right the Chinese and European is just going to sail right past the world’s best Navy just save the dainty Canadians? And fight a war on another continent on America’s home turf? Dream on I guess. No, I suspect they'll funnel weapons in and we'll kick your sorry asses out with an insurgency. Maybe we'll even grab a few Blue states just to rub it in. 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: just to rub it in. Hold up there, so you all refuse to join America but would welcome America joining you!! Okay there 51ster. Quote
Legato Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, eyeball said: @CdnFox You want to straighten this guy out? You might risk being cancelled as a Trudope. Which has to do with the concept of a biased media...what? Gentlemen Start Your Goalposts. Quote
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 18 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Hold up there, so you all refuse to join America but would welcome America joining you!! Okay there 51ster. Nothing wrong with a buffer between us and Jesus H Trump-land. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Legato said: Which has to do with the concept of a biased media...what? The concept of right-wing groupthink and hooey around the MSM and it's apparent bias. Edited January 30 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Zeitgeist Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 The Alberta separatists are committing treason and the American government is actively undermining our sovereignty by meeting with this group. Danielle Smith is undermining Canadian sovereignty by not calling out this group. 1 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: The Alberta separatists are committing treason and the American government is actively undermining our sovereignty by meeting with this group. Danielle Smith is undermining Canadian sovereignty by not calling out this group. No, you’re going to be 51ster and you’re going to like it. I don’t even know why you all would object to speeding this timeline up in the first place. Edited January 30 by paxamericana Quote
Army Guy Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: https://www.ipolitics.ca/2026/01/29/premiers-preach-unity-amid-report-that-alberta-separatist-group-met-with-trump-white-house-officials/ The Financial Times reported on Wednesday that Trump White House officials held three meetings since April with members of the Alberta Prosperity Project, a right-wing separatist group. The outlet said the group is seeking a $500 billion credit facility to bankroll the province if a referendum on separatism is successful. Alberta separatists are meeting with American officials to seek aid in breaking up Canada. Seems to be financial aid, from the reports. The criminal code states: High treason 46 (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada, (a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her; (b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or (c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are. Marginal note:Treason (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada, (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province; (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada; (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a); (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act. To me, it probably doesn’t rise to the level of treason yet, unless they discussed military, or policing operations, or given the Americans any intelligence , which I suspect the separatists don’t have anyway. If they even talked about any American military or policing after a vote for Alberta to separate before it became independent, this may be treason, or it may be seditious conspiracy, which is a different charge unfpder the criminal code. Canada could not even find Omar Khadar guilty of treason and he was a foreign terrorist convicted of murder of an Allied soldiers of the US coalition...in which Canada was part of....in fact we paid him 10 million dollars for his efforts...are you willing to pay each separatist 10 million...because by sun rise every Canadian would have their hand up....screaming pick me coach show me the money.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 54 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: The Alberta separatists are committing treason and the American government is actively undermining our sovereignty by meeting with this group. Danielle Smith is undermining Canadian sovereignty by not calling out this group. What have they done that fits the description treebeard provided....that would hold up in a court of law...and what is different in Alberta than in Quebec... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 Just now, Army Guy said: Canada could not even find Omar Khadar guilty of treason and he was a foreign terrorist convicted of murder of an Allied soldiers of the US coalition...in which Canada was part of....in fact we paid him 10 million dollars for his efforts...are you willing to pay each separatist 10 million...because by sun rise every Canadian would have their hand up....screaming pick me coach show me the money.... One has nothing to do with the other, but wasn’t he a child soldier? How can an indoctrinated child be convicted of anything? Regardless, are these Albertan separatists treasonous do you think? 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: What have they done that fits the description treebeard provided....that would hold up in a court of law...and what is different in Alberta than in Quebec... Is the foreign interference different? Quote
Army Guy Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: One has nothing to do with the other, but wasn’t he a child soldier? How can an indoctrinated child be convicted of anything? Regardless, are these Albertan separatists treasonous do you think? He was convicted as a terrorist" unlawful combatant" ....he is not afforded any rights under the convention....except to be treated humanely...You'll have to ask the US court how he was convicted....ask the Canadian courts which upheld the conviction so he could serve his sentence in Canada... They have not down anything treasonous....you provided the link and definition even you said they're actions do not fit the discription... Even the Canadian courts have said that the definition is very vague, and they would not be able to convict Omar on treason...and yet his actions fit most of the definition perfectly... The last person executed for treason in Canada was Métis leader Louis Riel, who was hanged on November 16, 1885, for leading the North-West Rebellion. While other cases occurred, such as Inouye Kanao (executed 1947 on foreign soil) and the unjust 1885 conviction of Chief Poundmaker (exonerated in 2019), Riel remains the most prominent and final domestic conviction. Key details regarding treason convictions in Canada: Louis Riel (1885): Following the North-West Resistance, Riel was tried in Regina and hanged for high treason. Inouye Kanao (1947): A Canadian-born soldier executed for war crimes/treason for mistreating Canadian POWs in Japan. Exonerations: In 2019, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau officially exonerated Cree Chief Poundmaker, who was convicted of treason following the 1885 rebellion. Modern Context: Although high-profile incidents like the FLQ crisis or the Toronto 18 plot occurred, they did not result in convictions under the Criminal Code's formal definition of treason. Treason in Canada remains an indictable offence carrying a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. Edited January 30 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: They have not down anything treasonous....you provided the link and definition even you said they're actions do not fit the discription Do you think they meet the layperson’s dictionary definition of treasonous, rather than a legal one? 11 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You'll have to ask the US court how he was convicted He wasn’t convicted , but I don’t really care what US courts think. It’s Canadian law that I am concerned with. Canada gave the guy $10 million for violating his rights. Child soldiers are not supposed to be treated like adults, but you’d probably be happy if he had been executed. Quote
August1991 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: The percent of Albertains who support leaving confederation grows consistently. I doubt it'll ever be enough to actually pull the trigger but, it clearly shows how the belief in Canada is falling apart. And why is this happening? Because the Canadian federal government is full of globalist pansies. I strongly agree with your two first points. Your third point raises a complicated question. ======= We Canadians have benefited from free trade with America - and the rest of the world. Quote
John Stone Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Leaked to generate controversy .......... all normal. That said any question re: Separation would begin with a referendum of some description. The Premier (Smith) often described as a Nazi has condemned the suggestion ..... that said, she realizes that the question generates a degree of leverage with the feds. This beotch loathes Quebec and how traditionally Quebec has always been treated with kid gloves by the feds (electoral power). Alberta is a wealth of resources and she is demanding more support from the feds to get product to market - either U.S. or Asia. There is no support for Separation in 'Wild Rose Country' ........ but that is moot for Smith j- the controversy works for her. Quote
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