Congrats anti-vaxers: Canada officially loses its measles elimination status

[BeaverFever]

Canada officially loses its measles elimination status
 

Canada has been stripped of its measles elimination status after failing to interrupt transmission within one year of an outbreak that continues to spread in parts of the country. The Public Health Agency of Canada said Monday it was notified by The Pan American Health Organization, a regional arm of the World Health Organization, that Canada lost its designation – an accomplishment it held for 27 years. “While transmission has slowed recently, the outbreak has persisted for over 12 months, primarily within under-vaccinated communities,” the statement said. 
 

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canada-loses-measles-elimination-status/

Just now, BeaverFever said:

Canada officially loses its measles elimination status
 

Canada has been stripped of its measles elimination status after failing to interrupt transmission within one year of an outbreak that continues to spread in parts of the country. The Public Health Agency of Canada said Monday it was notified by The Pan American Health Organization, a regional arm of the World Health Organization, that Canada lost its designation – an accomplishment it held for 27 years. “While transmission has slowed recently, the outbreak has persisted for over 12 months, primarily within under-vaccinated communities,” the statement said. 
 

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canada-loses-measles-elimination-status/

Polio is next!  Hooray for ignorance!

[SpankyMcFarland]

What an embarrassment. 

[Moonbox]

But think of the millions it's saved from autism and mind-control microchips.  

[eyeball]

From the article.

Alberta is nearing 2,000 cases, which is more than what has been recorded in the entire United States.

Canada can recover its measles-free status if it stifles transmission and follows corrective measures outlined by the Regional Verification Commission. This includes enhanced vaccination and surveillance efforts.

Maybe Alberta's separation would hasten that day.

[Venandi]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Hooray for ignorance!

Yeeee Haaaawww eh?

It's a shame... but what ever you do, don't give how we got here the slightest consideration. 

The trick was to create a mountain of well earned lack of trust, add insults, hateful rhetoric, do exactly what you promised not to do, get every aspect of following the science wrong and then de-platform anyone who warned you about the possible consequences, including (and especially) future effects like this one.

It took a strong effort but here we are asking the very question you were warned was going to get asked... 

WTF did you think was going to happen? 

Now, go commiserate with your colleagues here who can't discuss any of this at a high school level either and then throw in an extra handful of nasty rhetoric, insults and sarcasm... see if that changes the trajectory for you.   

Edited November 10, 2025 by Venandi

[eyeball]

51 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Yeeee Haaaawww eh?

It's a shame... but what ever you do, don't give how we got here the slightest consideration. 

A good solid couple of decades of gas-lighting plus billions invested in doubting science certainly helped.

Is it really any wonder so many people have given up being politically correct with the millions of stupid yahoos who've fallen for it?

[herbie]

[Legato]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

A good solid couple of decades of gas-lighting plus billions invested in doubting science certainly helped.

Is it really any wonder so many people have given up being politically correct with the millions of stupid yahoos who've fallen for it?

What billions?

Sometimes if you follow the science it can't be found but if you follow the money you will find the science.

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, Legato said:

What billions?

The billions spent by oil companies, tobacco...I'm sure there's others.

Climate change denial by far is the worst though.

[Shady]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Canada officially loses its measles elimination status
 

Canada has been stripped of its measles elimination status after failing to interrupt transmission within one year of an outbreak that continues to spread in parts of the country. The Public Health Agency of Canada said Monday it was notified by The Pan American Health Organization, a regional arm of the World Health Organization, that Canada lost its designation – an accomplishment it held for 27 years. “While transmission has slowed recently, the outbreak has persisted for over 12 months, primarily within under-vaccinated communities,” the statement said. 
 

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canada-loses-measles-elimination-status/

Polio is next!  Hooray for ignorance!

I had measles in high school along with dozens of other people in an outbreak in Ontario in the late 90s.  Measles was never eliminated.  Regardless, it’s literally like having the flu.

[BeaverFever]

17 minutes ago, Shady said:

I had measles in high school along with dozens of other people in an outbreak in Ontario in the late 90s.  Measles was never eliminated.  Regardless, it’s literally like having the flu.

Eliminated doesn’t mean eradicated it means we don’t have runaway outbreaks that last longer than 12 months from the first case to the last. 
 

Per chat gpt:

Measles is one of the most infectious diseases on earth and can be more serious than you suggest, it doesn’t just give you a rash and some nuisance symptoms, it can cause “immune memory loss” and wipe out your immune system for months or years making you vulnerable to germs you were previously immune to.

In addition  about 5% of infected children develop pneumonia from it which is the top cause death from measles. It can also cause encephalitis (brain swelling) in about 1 in 1,000 patients. In places without modern healthcare deaths can be 10% of cases.  Even with modern healthcare 1-3 people out of every 1,000 infections die. 

[User]

20 hours ago, Shady said:

I had measles in high school along with dozens of other people in an outbreak in Ontario in the late 90s.  Measles was never eliminated.  Regardless, it’s literally like having the flu.

Sigh… I swear, why must you folks routinely push this BS like this about vaccines and disease?

No, measles is not like having the flu.

Measles is more contagious, and for those who get it will be more deadly, with more complications and higher hospitalization.

All of which is almost entirely preventable in a vaccinated population.

[herbie]

I know of 3 people of the opinion I had Covid and didn't die, so you people who got vaxxed are stupid.
One spent 3 weeks in hospital and was on a ventilator.
One got helicoptered from his mining camp to hospital
One who's had it 3 times (claims...) and didn't even have to take a day off (from what? She doesn't have a job)

I had measles and survived. So did two of my sisters,
One didn't.

Edited November 11, 2025 by herbie

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

I know of 3 people of the opinion I had Covid and didn't die, so you people who got vaxxed are stupid.

That says more about your circle of acquaintances than it does the how and why of current vaccine skepticism and distrust. 

Some feared this would happen and warned of it... they also suggested there would be inertia because it would be somewhat generational in nature and it would take time to rebuild trust. It seems some of you were expecting a different result... as far as I'm concerned, that's just one more thing you got wrong. 

As it stands now some 36% of Canadians feel the covid response was overblown (clearly some rethinks there) and 16% regret having gotten the shot and wouldn't do it again. Add that to the percentage of people who refused to get it in the first place and you begin to see the extent of the problem.

Personally, I'm hoping that there are no further revelations or near future ill effects from the covid vaccine that make this trend worse. Like other grand experiments of late, this is going to take some time to unfuc%...

Thanks for your service Herb.

Edited November 11, 2025 by Venandi

[I am Groot]

You guys realize that the outbreak started and spread among the Mennonites, right? And then began to hit the general pop out west, mostly through unvaccinated FOREIGNERS. In the rest of the country, it's mostly foreigners.

I get how you love to think of this as a hick western conservative issue, but the least vaccinated groups are foreigners. We brought in a million of them last year from countries with very low vaccination rates, and we don't require any of them - immigrants, refugees, foreign workers (or their families), or foreign students(or their families), to get vaccinated.

PS. Got my covid shot today.

[Venandi]

3 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

...the least vaccinated groups are foreigners.

I'm not going to go looking but that stands at odds with what I remember from when I did look for it.

The vaccination rate among immigrants was higher than I expected and if memory serves, it's close to on par with the general population. 

[Venandi]

Here's an AI response for whatever that's worth... there's more to it I think and no date was included.

I think AI is like GPS... watch out for the bridges.

Anyway, I'm not going to go digging for stuff because it's all been done here before and none of the Herbs will read anything factual if it's to long anyway. 

I think they'll defend this one though:
 

Approximately 97% of recent immigrants to Canada have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. This figure highlights a high level of vaccination coverage within this demographic, which is consistent with the overall trend of strong vaccine uptake across the Canadian population.

Edited November 11, 2025 by Venandi

[SpankyMcFarland]

This should have been recognized as a developing crisis in March but the government didn’t respond with sufficient urgency.

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/braid-danielle-smith-ucp-government-vaccine-skepticism-measles-epidemic

 

 

 

[taxme]

54 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You guys realize that the outbreak started and spread among the Mennonites, right? And then began to hit the general pop out west, mostly through unvaccinated FOREIGNERS. In the rest of the country, it's mostly foreigners.

I get how you love to think of this as a hick western conservative issue, but the least vaccinated groups are foreigners. We brought in a million of them last year from countries with very low vaccination rates, and we don't require any of them - immigrants, refugees, foreign workers (or their families), or foreign students(or their families), to get vaccinated.

PS. Got my covid shot today.

PS: I did not get my covid booster jab today. No need too. Taking a covid booster jab just means more money for the big pharma WEF globalists ilk and cabal. The many stories that i have read and heard about people that took the covid jab in the beginning of covid was that there were many people that suffered from some serious injuries and some even died after taking the covid jab.

Many of these so called health saving vaccines contain many deadly chemicals and toxins that could easily injure or kill anyone who takes the covid vaccine jab. If you are still alive and well after taking a one or more covid jabs, than you are one of the lucky ones to still be around. Many who did take the covid jab are now dead and gone. 

True enough. Most of the diseases that Canadians are getting today are mostly coming from the millions of new legal and illegally immigrants that have never been vaccinated. Sadly, those new immigrants are now importing new diseases into Canada that we never heard of or knew existed.

Off topic, but this is one good reason to slow down on immigration into Canada big time. Hey, why not, eh? 😇

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

I'm not going to go looking but that stands at odds with what I remember from when I did look for it.

The vaccination rate among immigrants was higher than I expected and if memory serves, it's close to on par with the general population. 

You're talking about COVID. The problem with diseases like measles, mumps, and rubella is that no one usually talks much about vaccination because it's routinely done in early childhood. In Canada. But not in many of our source countries for immigration and refugees. Nor are they required or advised to get vaccinated when they arrive. 

Edited November 11, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

Plus, of course, the Mennonites

Most cases this year are in regions where local vaccination rates are as low as 30 percent.

Those towns are home to a culturally conservative Mennonite group with ties to Mexico that has historically been less likely to accept vaccines. The group primarily speaks Plautdietsch, a Low German dialect spoken almost entirely by Mennonites.

In interviews, local Mennonites confirmed that the virus is spreading through their community, but said they were not afraid or rushing to vaccinate their children — despite the well-documented risks of long-term and permanent consequences of measles.

“I don’t think the Mennonites are too worried about it,” said Sara Krahn, a Mennonite whose 4-year-old son caught measles in May and recovered at home. She treated him with over-the-counter pain killers, vitamins and skin ointments for his rash. “My mum said we all had them when we were young.”

https://removepaywalls.com/4/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/07/world/canada/measles-alberta-canada-vaccines.html

[Venandi]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You're talking about COVID.

Because that's where most of the current distrust was spawned (I think) and as the nonsense (like mandatory youth vaccinations for sports) increased, so did concerns that distrust and hesitation would spill over to other realms of the vaccination orbit.

Only about .07% of the population are Mennonites and you seem to be suggesting that the current hesitation is simply a function of them plus immigration... that may be partially true, I'm not sure and I'm not going to waste time researching it because the Herbs and Robos of the world will just contest the sources anyway. But, as it stands now, 16% of people regret getting the covid jab, they feel they were coerced into it, they won't do it again and some resent the fact it was mandated and that resentment remains palpable today.

Some military members fall into that category BTW and what really pi$$ed them off was the spectre of their neighbours cheering when people were fired for balking at it. I'm willing to bet that I've had more inoculations (probably lots more) than any of the people here who delight in screaming anti-vaxxer in my face.

Clearly you can quote the instances of administrative military releases and say they were small in number (235ish if memory serves) that's the party line and you would be right... but (and it's a big but), the voluntary releases to avoid having a disciplinary one on their file were much higher and if you want to find a pi$$ed off group of veterans, look no further. Many of them (including my oldest) dropped their release notice just prior to recieving a recorded warning. 

If you decide to look into the actual statistics on Mennonite and immigrant vaccine uptake I would be very happy to read through it. I'm not suggesting your observations are wrong BTW but I think there are enough non immigrants in the mix to warrant concern. Regardless of the actual stats though I fear it may be a while before we regain the ground lost.  Hateful, ill informed, nasty, sarcastic BS rhetoric from the likes of Herb isn't helping solve the issue either. It seems to me that the biggest loudmouths can't even discuss the science at a high school level and  they aren't helping IMO.

Cheers.

 

Edited November 12, 2025 by Venandi

[Goddess]

This is quite the conspiracy theory making the rounds amongst the usual half-baked Liberal supporters in their echo chamber.

Somehow, those who skipped the covid jab "brainwashed" the entire country to ditch all vaccines altogether.

Straight up lazy bull💩.

Canada was "measles-free" since 1998, with 95% herd immunity. So where did it suddenly come from?  SPOILER ALERT:  Not some backyard BBQ of skeptics. 

Measles is raging globally, particularly in these 9 hotspots:

India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Mexico, Kyrgystan and Russia.

As someone else pointed out, Canada does not require this vaccination for immigrants, temp workers, foreign students, etc.

We have brought literally millions of people in from these hotspot countries since 2020.  Now zoom in to where the numbers are exploding in Canada  - Ontario & Alberta.

Ontario got 21% of PR's, including up to 200,000 Indians, 35,000 Pakistanis, 30,000 Nigerians, 50,000 Afghanis.

Alberta is about 7% nationally, but mostly agricultural workers, including 40,000 Indians, 10,000 Nigerians, 150,000 Mexicans and 10,000 Afghanis.

Public Health Canada reports that sequencing of the clusters are from Middle Eastern and South Asian strains - that means imported measles landing in dense, diverse neighborhoods.  Raw numbers for 2025 are still pending, but you get the picture.

Yes, hesitancy is up, but we are dipping well below herd immunity rates in pockets of Canada where many immigrants are landing.  Immigrants who are not required by Canada to be vaccinated against measles.  That's 30 years of herd immunity down the drain because of imports, not because of some domestic cult's brainwashing of the nation or backyard BBQ.

Only m0r0ns believe that.

I realize scientific epidemiology is inconvenient for Liberals, but I don't really f%#@king care anymore what a bunch of media-fed, uninformed cretins believe or say.

 

[BeaverFever]

19 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You guys realize that the outbreak started and spread among the Mennonites, right? And then began to hit the general pop out west, mostly through unvaccinated FOREIGNERS. In the rest of the country, it's mostly foreigners.

I get how you love to think of this as a hick western conservative issue, but the least vaccinated groups are foreigners. We brought in a million of them last year from countries with very low vaccination rates, and we don't require any of them - immigrants, refugees, foreign workers (or their families), or foreign students(or their families), to get vaccinated.

PS. Got my covid shot today.

We’ve had mennonites for centuries so blaming the recent outbreak on them is dubious. 
 

We’ve had “foreigners” for centuries too and the Measles vaccine is also mandatory for most “foreigners” immigrating or coming for work or study.   So that’s dubious also.  You also don’t see big outbreaks centred in Toronto Montreal and Vancouver where most “foreigners” congregate 
 

Alberta has had almost as many outbreaks as Ontario despite having a fraction of the population. Alberta has had nearly 40% of all cases. It’s the epicentre of Canadian right-wing nuttery and the new nti-vax conspiracy crap that’s the variable that’s changed.  The Ontario cases arw primarily centred in southwest Ontario which is kot an immigration hotbed but is a hotbed for right wing movements and those new “blue collar conservative” anti-vax conspiracy populists. 
 

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

19 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Alberta has had almost as many outbreaks as Ontario despite having a fraction of the population. Alberta has had nearly 40% of all cases. It’s the epicentre of Canadian right-wing nuttery and the new nti-vax conspiracy crap that’s the variable that’s changed.  The Ontario cases arw primarily centred in southwest Ontario which is kot an immigration hotbed but is a hotbed for right wing movements and those new “blue collar conservative” anti-vax conspiracy populists. 

The basic point that people need to get into their heads; measles is spreading rapidly because the vaccination rate is too low. 

Edited November 12, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland