Congrats anti-vaxers: Canada officially loses its measles elimination status

[Shady]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Do tell my dead sister about it Dr. Shady
and every kid sick in bed and isolated for weeks.

An outbreak at my high school resulted in ZERO deaths.  ZERO seriously ill.  Nobody dies from measles unless there are serious other health issues involved.

But why wasn’t your sister vaccinated?

Edited November 13, 2025 by Shady

[herbie]

When you buy Tums you're paying $8 for a bottle of chalk, sugar and artificial flavour pressed together. They work, no one's complaining. And no one complains that getting MMR shots for your kids is free.

W don't have stupid leaders that claim they'll bring down drug costs so much they'll mathematically have to pay you to take them or even worse charge everyone else in the world more.

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

you have way way to much faith in yourself

I have faith in science.

You have faith in Big Pharma, governments and the media.

Big difference, my friend.

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I have faith in science.

You have faith in Big Pharma, governments and the media.

Big difference, my friend.

I have faith in cameras, microphones and human process guardians when it comes to interactions between our government with any Big fill-in-blank-here industry. It bears mentioning that governing our government this way would probably put a good deal of the media out of business.  Along with a bunch of crooked corporations and politicians too I'd hope.

I'm told you this many times and I have a decades long record supporting this sort of deep accountability on this forum and it's predecessors and it's bizarre how it's made no difference in how you've chosen to characterize me.

WTF is wrong with you?  Oh right...I laughed at you for comparing Trudeau to the NAZIs. LMAO!

Fùck off and get a grip.

[Shady]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

When you buy Tums you're paying $8 for a bottle of chalk, sugar and artificial flavour pressed together. They work, no one's complaining. And no one complains that getting MMR shots for your kids is free.

W don't have stupid leaders that claim they'll bring down drug costs so much they'll mathematically have to pay you to take them or even worse charge everyone else in the world more.

Why wasn’t your sister vaccinated?

[User]

6 hours ago, Shady said:

An outbreak at my high school resulted in ZERO deaths.  ZERO seriously ill.  Nobody dies from measles unless there are serious other health issues involved.

But why wasn’t your sister vaccinated?

Here you go again, not understanding basic concepts about statistics or logic.

Measles is not impacting people at scale because the vast majority of folks are still vaccinated and are not getting it or spreading it. 

There are over a hundred thousand deaths a year from Measles around the world, and they were not all plagued by serious health issues. 

These are basic facts. 

[User]

9 hours ago, Shady said:

Nope.  The measles for the general population is nothing to worry about.  

World data for measles deaths, as well as historical data, indicate otherwise. 

9 hours ago, Shady said:

You have to be in very poor health for it to be an issue.

This is not true. Even if you don't die from Measles, it does cause complications that do result in hospitalization, which is an issue. 

9 hours ago, Shady said:

The fact that people are losing their sh!t over the measles show just how far society has fallen.

The fact that you are losing your shit over a simple vaccine shows how far people like you have fallen. 

9 hours ago, Shady said:

I don’t think any vaccine should be mandated.  But guess what?  If you’re worried about measles get vaccinated.  Then you don’t have to worry about anyone that hasn’t been vaccinated.

We are worried about you spreading lies, disinformation, and convincing others not to get vaccinated. If you were doing this to yourself, that is one thing, but you are out proselytizing your fanaticism to others. 

Also, you have no idea how vaccination theory works, as vaccines are not some magic 100% shield for everyone at all times for all their lives. Infants are not vaccinated until 6 months. Not 100% of people's immune systems. Measles vaccine, with fully vaccinated people, is 97% effective, that means that for 3 in 100 people, the vaccine will not protect them. 

So, if enough of you fanatics convince each other, then you spread the disease around. 

The entire point of vaccinating enough people is the concept of herd immunity, that if enough people are vaccinated, it doesn't matter if the vaccine is only 97% effective, because it can't spread. 

This is why people care about these outbreaks and why people point out that people like you are full of shit. 

9 hours ago, Shady said:

People losing their sh!t over the measles!

No, people getting seriously ill or dying over measles when it is easily preventable with vaccination.  

[Goddess]

One of the biggest cons from the covid era was convincing people that humans can cheat death and hospitalization, exclusively through forced vaccinations. That every single death and hospitalization is preventable and needs to be blamed on someone. 

Health purists, who now believe every minute health issue should be managed through government intervention. 

Except the ones that are actually killing millions of people world-wide.  Ignore those. 👇

It's ridonkulous.  

Edited November 13, 2025 by Goddess

[WestCanMan]

Grow up, Beave. 

Stop conflating "anti-vaxer" with "people who don't believe in the pseudovax". It's two entirely different groups of people.

If some people lost faith in vaccines n general, due to the recent lies and deception campaign about covid and its jabs, that's partly YOUR fault, dingus. You lied, slandered and smeared for years, all based on blatant pseudoscience, now you wonder why people don't trust our entirely bogus f'ing medical community. 

[User]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop conflating "anti-vaxer" with "people who don't believe in the pseudovax". It's two entirely different groups of people.

 

So… what vaccines do you believe in? 

[WestCanMan]

18 minutes ago, User said:

So… what vaccines do you believe in? 

Vaccines. Actual "vaccines". Polio, measles, TB, pox, etc.

Just not Fauci's mRNA snake oil. 

[User]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Vaccines. Actual "vaccines". Polio, measles, TB, pox, etc.

Just not Fauci's mRNA snake oil. 

This is a thread about measles. 

[herbie]

16 hours ago, Shady said:

Why wasn’t your sister vaccinated?

they didn't have it in the mid 1960s. 

All of our kids were, none of the 10 had to go thru measles or mumps. Nor will any grandkids

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, User said:

This is a thread about measles. 

Kinda. 

Beave is singling out the people whom he refers to as "anti-vaxxers" by his small-minded definition means "people who weren't sciency enough to jump on the Faucian bandwagon with His Holiness: Emperor Trudeau".

According to the left4rd cultists, everyone who didn't take the jab is also guilty of not vaxing their children with proven vaccines against diseases that they truly do need protection from.

It's just more flawed left4rd cultist "lojick".

Edited November 13, 2025 by WestCanMan

[User]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Kinda. 

Beave is singling out the people whom he refers to as "anti-vaxxers" by his small-minded definition means "people who weren't sciency enough to jump on the Faucian bandwagon with His Holiness: Emperor Trudeau".

According to the left4rd cultists, everyone who didn't take the jab is also guilty of not vaxing their children with proven vaccines against diseases that they truly do need protection from.

It's just more flawed left4rd cultist "lojick".

Well, there is an audience here that is anti-vax and the folks we are talking about who oppose measles vaccines / vaccines in general are…. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

One of the biggest cons from the covid era was convincing people that humans can cheat death and hospitalization, exclusively through forced vaccinations. That every single death and hospitalization is preventable and needs to be blamed on someone. 

This was a self-inflicted con job. 

One of the biggest factors making the pandemic so much worse was how lit up with gas so many people were.

Given how filled you've long been with certainty that governments are often less than 100% truthful you should have been the first ones to keep a grain of salt handy. But instead you wailed like children learning for the first time that Santa and the Tooth Fairy were a lie...

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, User said:

Well, there is an audience here that is anti-vax and the folks we are talking about who oppose measles vaccines / vaccines in general are…. 

I'm not the one who blurred the line between "actual anti-vaxers", and "people who were smart enough to oppose forcing young adults and children to take a dangerous & experimental pseudovax that they didn't need, and which offered no benefit to society in general". Leftards did that.

To make matters worse, in the first usage there, that term is correctly used as a pejorative, to describe a person who puts their own children at risk because of their own ignorance; the second usage of the term is also meant to be a pejorative, but it's actually complimentary, and describes a person with the wisdom and intelligence to see through a massive, overwhelming campaign of lies and disinformation that's coming at them from every angle, and who also possesses the intestinal fortitude to act & speak out against it, even when it comes at great cost to them, personally.

The unfortunate title of this thread stems from Beave's need to malign the people who were proven correct at the end of the sad covid saga, by blaming them for children who remain to this day unvaccinated against diseases which they could still encounter, and which will undoubtedly be fatal for some of them. 

What Beave refuses to admit to, is that if there's any blame to be had here for the sad state of childhood vaccination levels nowadays, it's by the people (like Beavey boy) who completely ruined the trust that reasonable adults had in our medical community. You'd have to be a complete idjit to take anything that Dr Fauci or the CDC said at face value now. They are simply discredited liars and cons. 

 

Regarding the vax status of their children, it stands to reason that the people who were pseudovax cultists will also take any other medication that Fauci tells them to take. For example, if Fauci tells Beave to lick grease from the tip of a revved-up chainsaw to prevent him from getting cervical cancer, he will do it, no questions asked, and then call his neighbour childish names for not doing the same. If Fauci told Goddess to take her kids in for 73 vaccines tomorrow there's no way in hell that she would just rush her kids to the clinic without looking into it further. And FYI some state's vax-skeds do call for 73 shots. 

And of course there's vaccine disinformation out there which we will run into if we try to look into these things ourselves. But unfortunately we don't have  media that we can trust to look into any of this for us, because they all got caught lying to us about the covid jab. Right? Did our media do that?

[WestCanMan]

59 minutes ago, eyeball said:

This was a self-inflicted con job. 

One of the biggest factors making the pandemic so much worse was how lit up with gas so many people were.

Given how filled you've long been with certainty that governments are often less than 100% truthful you should have been the first ones to keep a grain of salt handy. But instead you wailed like children learning for the first time that Santa and the Tooth Fairy were a lie...

Stop skirting the fact that you were a full-fledged vax-fascist. 

While you were out there toeing the party line, and actively participating in the biggest fraud in the history of medicine, Goddess was giving you valuable information that you just refused to even consider.

If you're not certain that your gov't lies to you then you are a total idjit.  

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, herbie said:

Do tell my dead sister about it Dr. Shady
and every kid sick in bed and isolated for weeks.

Your sister died of measles now? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 F'ing liar. 

Just remember, you also told us that you "renovated your house using money from your credit card, thereby tripling its value"🤣🤣🤣🤣, and everyone with an IQ over 20 knows that you lied. There's not even a 1 in a trillion chance that you weren't lying when you said that. It's like saying that you used a needle and a single spool of thread to perform life-saving surgery on an elephant that was hit straight-on by a crashing 747. 

There's not even a 1% chance that what you said about your sister dying of measles is true. Not even 0.000001%.

And when a known liar says something that has less than a 0.000001% chance of being true, any reasonable person just assumes that they're lying. Don't take it personally though, jackass:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/786466/measles-reported-cases-rate-in-canada/

 

Almost no one in this country even gets measles, and the CFR for measles in developed countries is so low that it doesn't even make this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

Even in "developing countries" there's only a 2% chance of dying, and the CFR for measles in developed countries didn't even make the list, while the list went all the way down to 0.001%. 

So, when you combine the fact that:

1. "very few kids in Canada even got measles when your imaginary sister was a child", with the fact that
2. the CFR for measles is so low that it doesn't even make it onto a chart that goes all the way down to 0.001%

it means that there is a 0.000001% chance that "your sister died of measles". 

Again, when a known liar like you says something that's not even in the realm of possibility, it stands as a lie until they provide proof positive. And this even fits your pattern of lying: your other lie was also perfectly tailored to fit the story of the day. 

😘

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop skirting the fact that you were a full-fledged vax-fascist. 

LMAO!

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

While you were out there toeing the party line, and actively participating in the biggest fraud in the history of medicine, Goddess was giving you valuable information that you just refused to even consider.

Yeah like you she kept playing up the fascist angle thing too - along with all the MSM psyop mind control WEF nonsense you people are famous for.

That's why none of it was worth considering.

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you're not certain that your gov't lies to you then you are a total idjit.

I'm quite certain they do and have been for years. The scope, scale and extent you guys take it however is way way WAY over the top.

Don't forget you're talking about institutions that struggle to keep buses running on time. The all seeing all powerful mightiness never mind the motives and capacity to coordinate and cooperate around the world that you're attributing to governments is just flat out insane.

You really are no different than superstitious people in the Dark Ages who believed they lived in a world filled and populated with all manner of evil malevolent forces and beings.

Get. A. Grip.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

they didn't have it in the mid 1960s. 

All of our kids were, none of the 10 had to go thru measles or mumps. Nor will any grandkids

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1560955/measles-death-rate-in-the-us-since-1919/

The CFR for measles in the US (Canada would be the same, maybe even better) was 0.14 per 100,000 back in 1965.

That's 0.00014%.

In order to have a 50% chance of having a sibling die of measles you'd need to have 357,000 of them who actually got severe enough cases of measles to warrant medical attention.

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

LMAO!

Yeah like you she kept playing up the fascist angle thing too - along with all the MSM psyop mind control WEF nonsense you people are famous for.

That's why none of it was worth considering.

I'm quite certain they do and have been for years. The scope, scale and extent you guys take it however is way way WAY over the top.

Don't forget you're talking about institutions that struggle to keep buses running on time. The all seeing all powerful mightiness never mind the motives and capacity to coordinate and cooperate around the world that you're attributing to governments is just flat out insane.

You really are no different than superstitious people in the Dark Ages who believed they lived in a world filled and populated with all manner of evil malevolent forces and beings.

Get. A. Grip.

If CBC and our government weren't lying about covid and the jabs, then why didn't it make the news here when we found out that Fauci funded GoF research in the Wuhan lab to make the bat coronavirus transmissible among human cells?

Covid was the biggest news story since WWII: the news channels here devoted a greater percentage of their broadcast time to covid than to any other story since WWII, including the 9/11 story. But somehow "the guy who gives us all of our covid info probably helped create covid" was somehow just "not newsworthy"? Just like "2022 had 30% more covid deaths than 2021 and 25% more covid deaths than 2020" wasn't newsworthy.... Hmmmmm, is there a f'ing pattern there? 

That's like if a video emerged of Oprah Winfrey killing Nicole Simpson came out and CNN and Fox News both just never got around to showing it or talking about it. There had to be a pretty good reason for not showing it, and "lack of interest" definitely wasn't it.  

Good talk, eyeball. At least you're never boring. 

Edited November 13, 2025 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Covid was the biggest news story since WWII: the news channels here devoted a greater percentage of their broadcast time to covid than to any other story since WWII, including the 9/11 story. But somehow "the guy who gives us all of our covid info probably helped create covid" was somehow just "not newsworthy"?

He was somehow able to control all the world's governments, media and corporations and make them bend to his awesome will.

He'd have to either be really really clever or possess some sort of supernatural power.

Maybe he was forced to do it.

Duh duh duuuuuh!

 

[User]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm not the one who blurred the line between "actual anti-vaxers", and "people who were smart enough to oppose forcing young adults and children to take a dangerous & experimental pseudovax that they didn't need, and which offered no benefit to society in general". Leftards did that.

Fair enough

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm not the one who blurred the line between "actual anti-vaxers", and "people who were smart enough to oppose forcing young adults and children to take a dangerous & experimental pseudovax that they didn't need, and which offered no benefit to society in general". Leftards did that.

You underscored, highlighted and bolded the line between normal anti-vaxxers and the real crackpots.

And you've apparently grown in numbers. That's why Canada lost its measles elimination status.

I noticed a story recently about our government forming a committee to study and understand how our public and consumer safety could be compromised by things like US defunding the CDC, research and science in general and of course the promotion of loons like RFK jr to such a position of such influence and power.

They might want to keep an eye on Alberta.