Congrats anti-vaxers: Canada officially loses its measles elimination status

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Those are all the very real, pertinent facts. Not "my facts" or "Dr somebody's facts", they are the only actual facts that matter in determining the effectiveness of the vax campaign, they are 100% accurate, in black and white, and you have never even challenged them.

Your absolute certainty, presumed expertise and obvious concern for peoples health suggests you have a responsibility to have your work and conclusions peer reviewed  and submitted to health authorities around the world.

How many people have needlessly died as a result of you withholding your findings?

You need to get other real experts to challenge your numbers because nobody around here is qualified to...not even Goddess.

Edited November 25, 2025 by eyeball

[User]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

They aren't "claims".

Yes, your skewed "interpretation" and false assertions are in fact claims. 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I also showed you Health Canada's own stats that show you that 85.7% of the covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed, right when Health Canada just stopped giving us that info.

I already responded to this stupidity from you... you never showed me anything. The last comment was me asking you for your numbers and you ran away. 

 

 

[Moonlight Graham]

On 11/10/2025 at 6:07 PM, Shady said:

I had measles in high school along with dozens of other people in an outbreak in Ontario in the late 90s.  Measles was never eliminated.  Regardless, it’s literally like having the flu.

False.  Don't spread misinformation.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 11/12/2025 at 11:20 AM, Goddess said:

This is quite the conspiracy theory making the rounds amongst the usual half-baked Liberal supporters in their echo chamber.

Somehow, those who skipped the covid jab "brainwashed" the entire country to ditch all vaccines altogether.

Straight up lazy bull💩.

Canada was "measles-free" since 1998, with 95% herd immunity. So where did it suddenly come from?  SPOILER ALERT:  Not some backyard BBQ of skeptics. 

Measles is raging globally, particularly in these 9 hotspots:

India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Mexico, Kyrgystan and Russia.

As someone else pointed out, Canada does not require this vaccination for immigrants, temp workers, foreign students, etc.

We have brought literally millions of people in from these hotspot countries since 2020.  Now zoom in to where the numbers are exploding in Canada  - Ontario & Alberta.

Ontario got 21% of PR's, including up to 200,000 Indians, 35,000 Pakistanis, 30,000 Nigerians, 50,000 Afghanis.

Alberta is about 7% nationally, but mostly agricultural workers, including 40,000 Indians, 10,000 Nigerians, 150,000 Mexicans and 10,000 Afghanis.

Public Health Canada reports that sequencing of the clusters are from Middle Eastern and South Asian strains - that means imported measles landing in dense, diverse neighborhoods.  Raw numbers for 2025 are still pending, but you get the picture.

Yes, hesitancy is up, but we are dipping well below herd immunity rates in pockets of Canada where many immigrants are landing.  Immigrants who are not required by Canada to be vaccinated against measles.  That's 30 years of herd immunity down the drain because of imports, not because of some domestic cult's brainwashing of the nation or backyard BBQ.

Only m0r0ns believe that.

I realize scientific epidemiology is inconvenient for Liberals, but I don't really f%#@king care anymore what a bunch of media-fed, uninformed cretins believe or say.

Well this would explain why we have a bigger outbreak than the US, who has far more vaccine hesitancy than we do.

But the US requires many vaccinations for immigrants while we require none.  We also allow people with HIV to immigrate here and become permanent residents.  Canada has to be the softest country in the world, it's unbelievable.

I have some Charter issues with governments requiring vaccations among its citizens, but people from other countries have no right to enter Canada and aren't protected by the Charter before they migrate.  No vaccines = no entry.

[eyeball]

19 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I have some Charter issues with governments requiring vaccations among its citizens, but people from other countries have no right to enter Canada and aren't protected by the Charter before they migrate.  No vaccines = no entry.

So the take away here is that despite your issues with if vaccine mandates work.

I guess it's good to know that's sorta sinking in.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

So the take away here is that despite your issues with if vaccine mandates work.

I guess it's good to know that's sorta sinking in.

Can you fix your grammar/spelling here.  I don't know what you're trying to say.

[eyeball]

Just now, Moonlight Graham said:

Can you fix your grammar/spelling here.  I don't know what you're trying to say.

My bad.

It looks like you agree that vaccine mandates work.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

My bad.

It looks like you agree that vaccine mandates work.

Well, vaccines work, so yes vaccine mandates work to lower infection rates of diseases.  And yes, forcing people to do things usually gets them to do it.  But there's also issues with human rights and mandates.  Coercing Canadians to inject medicine into their bloodstream that they don't want has real ethical issues around consent and body autonomy.  People in foreign countries don't have Charter rights.

Edited November 25, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Moonlight Graham]

6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Well, vaccines work, so yes vaccine mandates work to lower infection rates of diseases.  But there's also issues with human rights and mandates.  Coercing Canadians to inject medicine into their bloodstream that they don't want has real ethical issues around consent and body autonomy.  People in foreign countries don't have Charter rights.

In fact, on this issue immigrants have more rights in Canada than children and their parents.  Children are required to get vaccinated while migrants aren't (only "strongly recommended" to get vaccined").  This is arse-backwards.  Typical Liberal Party nonsense.

[John Stone]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

False.  Don't spread misinformation.

Measles is an EXTREME threat to expectant mother's fetus. 

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, User said:

Yes, your skewed "interpretation" and false assertions are in fact claims. 

Point them out. What was false. Man up and make a specific claim, or go to your bedroom and sulk. 

[User]

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Point them out. What was false. Man up and make a specific claim, or go to your bedroom and sulk. 

I already did, you ran away. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, User said:

I already did, you ran away. 

Why are you afraid to say it? It makes no sense. Copy and paste it if you want. IDGAF.

[User]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why are you afraid to say it? It makes no sense. Copy and paste it if you want. IDGAF.

I already gave you a link to the conversation and you can't even figure that out. 

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, User said:

I already gave you a link to the conversation and you can't even figure that out. 

STFU, dummy. You're running away from STATS here. Health Canada's own STATS. And for what reason? So that I can go look at another one of your ret4rded posts in a different thread? 

Anyone looking that this thread just sees you ignoring all the basic signs of vax-efficacy and safety. Deaths, hospitalizations and infections all went WAY UP in Canada after the pseudovax campaign, and almost 90% of our deaths were among the multi-vaxed. Those are all facts. You can't spin that as proof that the jabs worked.

The jabs failed by every worthwhile metric aside from "lab reports from tests done in the secrecy of Pfizer's basement". 

[eyeball]

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The jabs failed by every worthwhile metric aside from "lab reports from tests done in the secrecy of Pfizer's basement".

Then why are my drs and pharmacist not telling me I'm wasting my time keeping up with my jabs?

Oh right, you still haven't submitted your research and conclusions for peer review.

Shame on you for twiddling your thumbs in some internet dead-end instead - who knows how many lives you could have saved and how many conspirators might be in prison today.

[cougar]

On 11/11/2025 at 12:03 PM, herbie said:

I had measles and survived. So did two of my sisters,
One didn't.

Wasn't vaccination meant to protect the vaccinated person?

If we want to vaccinate everyone just so they do not transmit viruses to other unvaccinated people, that will not be acceptable.

[Venandi]

20 minutes ago, cougar said:

Wasn't vaccination meant to protect the vaccinated person?

 

Ya, that's what I thought too.

I knew that people who lived in the places I got sent to weren't vaccinated against the things I was getting vaccinated for.... I thought that was the point.  

Who'd a thunk military doctors were such dummies eh?

 

[User]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

STFU, dummy. You're running away from STATS here. Health Canada's own STATS. And for what reason? So that I can go look at another one of your ret4rded posts in a different thread? 

Anyone looking that this thread just sees you ignoring all the basic signs of vax-efficacy and safety. Deaths, hospitalizations and infections all went WAY UP in Canada after the pseudovax campaign, and almost 90% of our deaths were among the multi-vaxed. Those are all facts. You can't spin that as proof that the jabs worked.

The jabs failed by every worthwhile metric aside from "lab reports from tests done in the secrecy of Pfizer's basement". 

I am not running away from anything. What about the stats? This is exactly what happened last time. You posted the stats then refused to show your sources or methodology for coming up with them. 

 

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, User said:

I am not running away from anything. What about the stats? This is exactly what happened last time. You posted the stats then refused to show your sources or methodology for coming up with them. 

Lol. There is an entire 50-page thread about the stats and the methodology, but you are too dumb to make sense of the parts that require a basic understanding of math. 

I will post that shit here later today. Im too busy right now.  

[User]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Lol. There is an entire 50-page thread about the stats and the methodology, but you are too dumb to make sense of the parts that require a basic understanding of math. 

I will post that shit here later today. Im too busy right now.  

Yeah, we will see. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, User said:

Yeah, we will see. 

If the search feature on this site wasn't disabled I could find it for you in ten seconds.