Queenmandy85 Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: second that he intends to double down on economy-killing climate policies. So you put more importance on the current economy than future generations whom we are doing our best to throw into the furnace. Did you sleep through your physics classes? Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Gaétan Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: In your first statement, you stated his election was a fraud, as though it was a proven fact, but your only "evidence" is he was more visible. By that, you would have to have the same accusation against Mr. Poilievre who benifited from more positive media coverage than Charest. But you offer no evidence that this was the result of some secret conspiracy. Mr. Carney won the leadership because he has the best chance of winning. His two closest rivals, Ms. Freeland and Ms. Gould, both of whom would make excellent Prime Ministers, would not be able to defeat Mr. Poilievre. Canadian voters have a baked in prejudice against women Prime Ministers. It is shameful, but I point to the fact, no woman has ever won sufficient electoral support to be appointed PM after a general election. But who made you think he was the best to win the election against Poilievre then according to you made voters vote for him? The cia, the secret service, the Trudeau's team, who? His election was a fraud simply because the other candidates were not treated fairly by the media. Who made this happen? Edited March 22 by Gaétan Quote
herbie Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: Tell me how they're further to the right. I dare you. Dare taken. Is he as 'left' as Justin? Tell me about all the leftist bankers while you're at it. Quote
I am Groot Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, herbie said: Dare taken. Is he as 'left' as Justin? Tell me about all the leftist bankers while you're at it. Do you mean economic or social left? In term of climate change yes. He seems to be very supportive of DEI and 'woke' too. Whether he's 'more' supportive of DEA than Trudeau remains to be seen. Clearly 'trans' friendly. Clearly pro choice. Clearly pro-mass-immigration. Has no problem sending $100 million to Gaza to help fund Hamas' rearmament program. In terms of fiscal, we'll have to see. Has shown no particular interest in balancing the budget anytime soon. Still waiting for how the present Conservatives have policies further to the right than the PCs did. Quote
I am Groot Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: So you put more importance on the current economy than future generations whom we are doing our best to throw into the furnace. Did you sleep through your physics classes? Let me ask you this. Which is the better policy to combat climate change? A: Spend two trillion dollars to lower our emissions by 40% below 2005 level. B: Buy everyone a green hat. A will have a profoundly negative impact on our economy but make no difference to climate change. B will have no negative impact on our economy and make no difference to climate change. I vote for B. Don't try to make that a morally inferior choice to yours. I can easily turn that around as "You're willing to kill people in pursuit of a pointless goal that will help no one. Quote
-TSS- Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) Have you noticed any difference in your personal lives based on which party is in the government? Especially in Canada which is a federal country. I could ask the same question about your provincial level as well. I can't speak for others but in Finland I think there are two opposite groups of people who actually feel the difference which party is in the government. Namely those close to the poverty-line who are very dependant on the government-handouts. Of course if those handouts are increased or decreased you notice the difference. The other group is the opposite the very wealthy people who feel the pinch if the socialists tax their capital gains or stock market dividends compared to if the conservatives decide the tax-rate. As for the everyday ordinary working man there is very little difference which party is in the government. Edited March 22 by -TSS- Quote
I am Groot Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Not a single way? 🤔 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-cancels-capital-gains-hike-1.7490020 Also what about the carbon tax? I'm hoping that there's something innovative coming but those seem to satisfy your criteria. Carney has not canceled the carbon tax. He pretended to cancel the way in which carbon was taxed, though he didn't because that piece of paper he signed was for show and of no legal value. He still intends to tax carbon only at a higher rate, through taxes on business and industry which will be pushed downward to consumers through higher prices. Canceling the still-not-passed-into-law capital gains tax increase is good. But it's not enough to satisfy the criteria I set forth. What I said was "single way in which he differentiates from the Liberal policies of the past ten years" Not "Any program change he might make. So what is meant by Liberal policies of the past ten years? Spending hundreds of billions on climate change - not one particular program. Mass immigration from the third world. Focus on income redistribution - as opposed to one single program. Spending taxpayer money to buy off ethnic groups for votes. DEI and 'woke'. Negligence regarding foreign interference in our politics, society, and educational systems. Negligence regarding our national security. Negligence regarding crime - and not a single particular law. Negligence regarding the military. Quote
herbie Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, I am Groot said: He seems to be very supportive of DEI and 'woke' too As they are the norms not some perverted twisted evil like you righties try to make out. GOT IT? Anything you don't like is woke to you so using that as a criticism is a nonsequiter, utterly meaningless. And we don't have DEI we have labour laws that prevent discriminatory hiring, which is the intent of DEI and most businesses choose it that way. Like mine did 25 years ago before the term was even coined. IF 33% of the populkation is Native, then if two qualified people applied the Native guy got the advantage - because that added to your marketing to a bigger target. BUSINESSES DO NOT F*CKING HIRE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE 'because of quotas. That is utter bullshit spread by bigots. And there is no law that says they must. 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 34 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Let me ask you this. Which is the better policy to combat climate change? A: Spend two trillion dollars to lower our emissions by 40% below 2005 level. B: Buy everyone a green hat. A will have a profoundly negative impact on our economy but make no difference to climate change. B will have no negative impact on our economy and make no difference to climate change. I vote for B. Don't try to make that a morally inferior choice to yours. I can easily turn that around as "You're willing to kill people in pursuit of a pointless goal that will help no one. You will have to show me the math on this. If we stop emitting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere by replacing fossil fuel energy generation with nuclear power around the world, it will make a difference. But we have to act now or it will become a self-generating machine. It is something we should have done sixty years ago. If we had, this would not be an issue. We also have to reduce the global population. The maximum population the earth can sustain is 1.5 billion. Edited March 22 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
I am Groot Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: You will have to show me the math on this. If we stop emitting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere by replacing fossil fuel energy generation with nuclear power around the world, it will make a difference. But we have to act now or it will become a self-generating machine. It is something we should have done sixty years ago. If we had, this would not be an issue. I have no argument with much of this. The problem is it's wishful thinking. Only 27 countries out of about 200 are working on that, and they do not include the biggest emitters of carbon. Two-thirds of emissions now come from the developing world and they don't have to be carbon neutral for another 45 years. The US never even signed the treaty and definitely isn't working on it. China is certainly doing a lot with renewables - so it can basically sell them to everyone else and control the market, which they pretty much do. But two thirds of their electric energy comes from coal and that's not changing anytime soon. Nice try. Didn't work. Won't work. So time for something new. Edited March 22 by I am Groot Quote
Legato Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, herbie said: As they are the norms not some perverted twisted evil like you righties try to make out. GOT IT? Anything you don't like is woke to you so using that as a criticism is a nonsequiter, utterly meaningless. And we don't have DEI we have labour laws that prevent discriminatory hiring, which is the intent of DEI and most businesses choose it that way. Like mine did 25 years ago before the term was even coined. IF 33% of the populkation is Native, then if two qualified people applied the Native guy got the advantage - because that added to your marketing to a bigger target. BUSINESSES DO NOT F*CKING HIRE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE 'because of quotas. That is utter bullshit spread by bigots. And there is no law that says they must. Unions are woke. Quote
I am Groot Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, herbie said: As they are the norms not some perverted twisted evil like you righties try to make out. GOT IT? Hmm, no. Hiring and promotion on merit, not race is the norm throughout the world. Only in woke countries do they hire and promote despite a LACK of merit, based entirely on race and gender. 9 minutes ago, herbie said: Anything you don't like is woke I and others have already posted our definition of woke. And no, I don't like Trump and I don't think he's woke. I don't like Putin or Xi either, and they're not woke. Stop sniveling about me disagreeing with you. 9 minutes ago, herbie said: And we don't have DEI we have labour laws that prevent discriminatory hiring, We absolutely have DEI in every government and corporation to ensure discriminatory hiring and promotion takes place. 9 minutes ago, herbie said: which is the intent of DEI and most businesses choose it that way. Like mine did 25 years ago before the term was even coined. Is that how you got hired? 9 minutes ago, herbie said: BUSINESSES DO NOT F*CKING HIRE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE 'because of quotas. That is utter bullshit spread by bigots. And there is no law that says they must. Businesses hire unqualified people to virtue signal to customers and because government, while there is no law, strongly pressures them to. The federal cabinet was put together strictly through DEI, not merit. And the public service has been hiring on race and gender for some time. I'm not in it anymore but many people I know are. Hiring incompetent Blacks seems to be giving way to hiring incompetent Indians, which is causing some further issues as most of them are not exactly people-friendly managers and don't know what they're doing. Was just hearing from an EX last week about a new ADM who was brought in with no previous federal public service experience straight from a municipality, who hasn't got a clue and is busy screaming at her underlings and making unreasonable demands the way Indians do back home I guess. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 5 hours ago, herbie said: As they are the norms not some perverted twisted evil like you righties try to make out. GOT IT? Anything you don't like is woke to you so using that as a criticism is a nonsequiter, utterly meaningless. And we don't have DEI we have labour laws that prevent discriminatory hiring, which is the intent of DEI and most businesses choose it that way. Like mine did 25 years ago before the term was even coined. IF 33% of the populkation is Native, then if two qualified people applied the Native guy got the advantage - because that added to your marketing to a bigger target. BUSINESSES DO NOT F*CKING HIRE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE 'because of quotas. That is utter bullshit spread by bigots. And there is no law that says they must. That is discrimination....and it is not in the labor laws or DEI policies would not exist.......you can not hire anyone based on race, color, creed, or religion, because it is discriminatory...the loophole to getting away with it is proving it... Take a look at Military hiring either for military jobs or civilian it will say right in the ad, who they are looking for , what their preferred candidate looks like, ie ethnic background preferred...or ethnic women only...now try putting in white only into the same ad, and see what happens... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) On 3/21/2025 at 8:25 AM, Legato said: So having a PhD automatically qualifies one to become leader of a country? Of course not? But a PHD in economics and and extensive career in business and banking does make one more qualified to run an economy than a career politician with a BA in international relations. Edited March 23 by Aristides Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 He’s certainly to the right of Trudeau, somewhere near Chrétien on the political spectrum I would say. A pragmatist. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 7 hours ago, -TSS- said: Have you noticed any difference in your personal lives based on which party is in the government? No. People who hate Trudeau hate him for being “woke”. Beyond that, the Libs and Cons aren’t very different. Quote
herbie Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 15 hours ago, TreeBeard said: No. People who hate Trudeau hate him for being “woke”. Beyond that, the Libs and Cons aren’t very different. That;s why I never supported either right wing party! Besides if you're worried about 'woke' then go grumble over Thanksgiving dinner, you've got zero grasp of real political issues. You've been brainwashed by the distractors. Go ahead and vote for the skinny four eyed kid to stand up to the bully. You act like things are so shitty, you're gonna die tomorrow anyway, you think having an extra dozen beers a month is so important abandoning all efforts and increasing pollution, all social programs and even more deregulation is a solution. Ignore everything you see going on with our friends to the South. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 On 3/22/2025 at 12:40 PM, I am Groot said: In terms of fiscal, we'll have to see. Has shown no particular interest in balancing the budget anytime soon. He just promised a tax break for the middle classes. The exact same tax break that Justin promised for the middle class when he ran in 2015. Seems like they're about the same Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Goddess Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. Edited March 25 by Goddess 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Goddess said: One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. One thing that was interesting from Carney's press conference yesterday - a reporter noted he went to church that morning and asked if his religious beliefs would affect his policies on abortion and he said no. But the Libs hammer the Conservative (supposedly a more religious group) on abortion all the time, saying their religious beliefs will make them ban all abortion. Like I've said before - I don't think the Libs hear what they themselves are saying. They just say whatever is politically expedient in the moment. And I loved his little thing where he was filmed coming out of the church and had announced and scheduled that he would be going to church and then going to dissolve parliament and then tried to act surprised when the guy asked about church and said oh well I wouldn't have brought that up but thank you for noticing. LOL oh really, just shocked as heck they noticed you went to church which you announced and said you'd be at just before dissolving parlimaent! What a coincidence they just happened to catch you there LOLOLOL Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) What do MPs really do? Carney waltzed into the PMO and just scrapped the carbon tax and made all these sweeping changes that Trudeau and all of his drooling minions enacted over 9 years... Did they ALL do an about face, or did Ayatollah Carney just unilaterally move the LPOC across the aisle temporarily? Is he just going to undo all of his unilateral changes if he gets re-elected? Edited March 24 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: What do MPs really do? Carney waltzed into the PMO and just scrapped the carbon tax and made all these sweeping changes that Trudeau and all of his drooling minions enacted over 9 years... Did they ALL do an about face, or did Ayatollah Carney just unilaterally move the LPOC across the aisle temporarily? Is he just going to undo all of his unilateral changes if he gets re-elected? Yes, but the good news is he brings it all back again the week after Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: And I loved his little thing where he was filmed coming out of the church and had announced and scheduled that he would be going to church and then going to dissolve parliament and then tried to act surprised when the guy asked about church and said oh well I wouldn't have brought that up but thank you for noticing. LOL oh really, just shocked as heck they noticed you went to church which you announced and said you'd be at just before dissolving parlimaent! What a coincidence they just happened to catch you there LOLOLOL I just love this little thing where Carney's huge lies from the last two months are already forgiven by the MSM and they're still intent on finding/manufacturing ways to denigrate Poilievre. "The Conservatives are just too _________, plus Carney has already reversed course and implemented their best ideas, and everybody just loves and trusts Mark Carney because he singlehandedly saved our economy in 2008 while the PM and Finance Minister were doing nothing. Ahhhh, he may be even dreamier than the Golden Boy." 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yes, but the good news is he brings it all back again the week after I don't know why the Libs wouldn't think that they can get away murder at this point. They've done it over and over for the past 9 years and the MSM is still just polishing their turds for us in 2025. The last decent gov't in North America was Harper's, if you discount the first Trump administration, which apparently has nothing in common with his second one. I don't know why CBC thinks that the Libs are somehow awesome after all we've seen over the past 9 years. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
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