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1 hour ago, Boges said:

Thanks to Daddy's money. 

Really we should be speculating on whether Justin would have bankrupted More than Trump if he were given the chance.

Argus had a scathing post on here about Trump's Atlantic City ventures.

I don't think Trudeau is smart, but at least he knows his limits.

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5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You are right with clarification.

Trump was a business owner, as opposed to businessman. He dictated his companies. My way or the highway in all ventures.

He is mart but not necessarily effective or successful.  Bankrupt 6 times and said "we used certain laws that are there".  So when thing did not go well, he used American laws and bailed out on everything and everyone.  He was/is smart in that he has all his ventures separated so any one of them can go bankrupt without it affecting the others.

"Trump’s companies have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, which means a company can remain in business while wiping away many of its debts. The bankruptcy court ultimately approves a corporate budget and a plan to repay remaining debts; often shareholders lose much of their equity.

Trump’s Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in Atlantic City, but six months later, “defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin,” The Washington Post’s Robert O’Harrow found. In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York, declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing debt.

PolitiFact uncovered two more bankruptcies filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts also declared bankruptcy in 2009, after being hit hard during the 2008 recession.

Why the discrepancy? Perhaps this will give us an idea: Trump told Washington Post reporters that he counted the first three bankruptcies as just one."

So what. We all know that, and as usual the details are debatable. It doesn’t matter. Even a failure has experience that is helpful.

Hence as I said, “Like it or not.”

 

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3 hours ago, Boges said:

Thanks to Daddy's money. 

As I said, like it or not. But in terms of experience, Trudeau does not compare to Trump, because he has none.

What I don’t like is someone who leads us on non-issues while failing on the ones that matter, because his focus is on his pet projects, wokism and massive reform without consideration of the effects it has to those caught in the transition.

But hey, you people who are completely comfortable, please carry on...

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48 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

So what. We all know that, and as usual the details are debatable. It doesn’t matter. Even a failure has experience that is helpful.

Hence as I said, “Like it or not.”

 

The details are in court records.

The guy has the money and staff to play the system....as does out leader Justin :)

Like it or not :)

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54 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

As I said, like it or not. But in terms of experience, Trudeau does not compare to Trump, because he has none.

What I don’t like is someone who leads us on non-issues while failing on the ones that matter, because his focus is on his pet projects, wokism and massive reform without consideration of the effects it has to those caught in the transition.

But hey, you people who are completely comfortable, please carry on...

I think the affirmation of a guy like Trump is important now.  Like him or hate him, he is who he is.  He’s more real, more actually street than a guy like Trudeau.  It’s the symbol of 80’s excess, the last great time.  We need to bring that back.  Fuck this woke over sensitivity to people.  Mix and mingle, cultural exchange, learn from each other.  Listen to what the flower people say…” (Spinal Tap)

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Really we should be speculating on whether Justin would have bankrupted More than Trump if he were given the chance.

Argus had a scathing post on here about Trump's Atlantic City ventures.

I don't think Trudeau is smart, but at least he knows his limits.

That’s nice that Argus said so, but who gives a shee-it.

Trudeau does not know limits, such as with his comments about the unvaccinated.

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39 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

1. That’s nice that Argus said so, but who gives a shee-it.

2. Trudeau does not know limits, such as with his comments about the unvaccinated.

1. It was a thoughtful insight from a real conservative.  I for one am interested in such things, vs. people just parroting conspiracy theories.

2. That's a prejudice.  He hasn't overplayed his hand yet.  If he runs and loses well that will be the end of him...

 

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3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. It was a thoughtful insight from a real conservative.  I for one am interested in such things, vs. people just parroting conspiracy theories.

2. That's a prejudice.  He hasn't overplayed his hand yet.  If he runs and loses well that will be the end of him...

 

1. Ohh, real conservative, poo poo poo. He had a number of views I found abhorrent. He certainly is not a good representative of conservatism, in my opinion. Sorry, I know how much you admire him, but it’s just you, your opinion.

2. Yes, he is a prejudicial little hate monger. Most un-Canadian PM of all time. You want to attach your name to that? (by voting).

It’s becoming increasingly clear what’s happening in Canada. Trudeau admirers are not liberals at all. He, and they are post-liberal illiberals. Meanwhile those who are conservative, real conservative not Argus conservative, are far more tolerant than they. The last bastion of liberalism in Canada is the conservatives.

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forgot to put in the numbers, for those who don’t habla
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On 7/25/2022 at 6:55 AM, Boges said:

My question is. What is your long-game here? Are you satisfied being on the fringe?

I'll give Erin O'Toole credit, he tried to make the CPC more appealing to the masses,

Erin O'Toole was not the sharpest tool in the shed.  The pre-election materials he sent me were ridiculous.  He was a no go and was rightly kicked out, although no matter who conservatives come up with, I will not vote for them after Harper.

Trudeau was a disaster with how he handled the vaccination mandates and the resulting protests.  Left a very bad taste in my mouth, grossly infringing on my freedoms as a non-vaccinated person and continues to do so.  He seems to manipulate the media too.  The WE and Lavalin scandals did not help him much either.

NDP - another no go for me , after Horgan , here in BC and Jagmeed Singh.  Don't trust any of them.

Greens are in disarray, weak as ever and unattractive - I like the name Green, but that is all that is green about them.

So to your first question - we are left with no viable choice - a stack of bad apples to chose from.   You might as well forget about voting and take care of your daily life and business as usual.

 

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8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Argus had a scathing post on here about Trump's Atlantic City ventures.

Sounds rather judgemental and sanctimonious, from a guy who had some issues of his own.

Real conservatives are not like that. I’m talking about Canadian conservatives by the way, not Americans. Ontario conservatives perhaps, in contrast with those western conservative moralists. There are not many real ones left.

Would you honestly preclude someone who may be quite capable in their job, automatically and by default, ipso-facto because they mess around with women? 

I’ve got news for you people. In the real world there’s a lot of humping going on. You really want to go down that road? No. Politics has no business in someone’s bedroom. 

As long as it doesn’t interfere with the job and is among consenting adults.

No little girls... You figure out what I mean by that.

;) 

 

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7 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Ohh, real conservative, poo poo poo. He had a number of views I found abhorrent. He certainly is not a good representative of conservatism, in my opinion. Sorry, I know how much you admire him, but it’s just you, your opinion.

2.  You want to attach your name to that? (by voting).

3. The last bastion of liberalism in Canada is the conservatives.

1. Pretty much one of the top two or three posters representing conservative views.  Even the cult posters thought so, until he DARED to post about dear leader's little deficit problem and lying...

2. I didn't vote for Trudeau.

3. Like Argus and me.  The new populists that didn't follow politics 10 years ago are just too emotionally charged.

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6 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Sounds rather judgemental and sanctimonious, from a guy who had some issues of his own.

2. Would you honestly preclude someone who may be quite capable in their job, automatically and by default, ipso-facto because they mess around with women? 

3. Little girls... You figure out what I mean by that.

;) 

 

1. People bring up Trump's business past as though it qualifies him to be president, so his poor judgment should not be a sacred cow.  Furthermore, the manner in which he failed should have disqualified him in the minds of voters.  But they thought he was good at business based on his game show host personae.

2. No, but if they lied to cover it and took on a hypocritical Christian persona, I would find that detestable.

3. No idea.  The only on-the-record statements I can think of in that context is about Trump walking into beauty pageant dressing rooms when the girls were changing.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/pageant-contestants-claim-trump-entered-dressing-rooms-while-they-were-half-naked

Anything else about this is rumour.

 

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4 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. You two seem moralists to me.

2. In other words, the failure of conservatism.

1. Maybe so.  Commenting on dear leader's absolutely empty headed decisions seems to strike a nerve with the cult though.  And most of them are moralistic to a fault.

2. Sorry, aren't YOU the one who brought up the rumours of Trump and underaged girls?  

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16 hours ago, herbie said:

We don't have "Liberal" courts. Judges are appointed for their knowledge of law, not their politics. You may not like their decisions, but they're based on law. That's why they're Judges and you're not.

Not everyone's interpretation/ knowledge of the law is the same, we have judges overturn other judges' decisions all the time. like giving a sentence over 25 years, it is now considered a violation of the charter.

So you're saying all judges are neutral in politics and don't have a preference for one party over another. and the same goes for the party that is doing the appointing, they are not going to choose a judge that has voted or has one parties beliefs in mind. 

How many conservative judges have the liberals appointed? 

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