War In Ukraine

[Nationalist]

18 hours ago, Aristides said:

Obviously you prefer being up Putin's arse.

Obviously you have an anus fetish.

[Nationalist]

Merry Christmas...

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Merry Christmas...

Merry Christmas yourself Ahole, it's the Russians who are destroying Ukraine, It's the Russians who have been targeting civilians. You think the Russians are justified in committing any kind war crime. Man you live some kind of sick upside down fantasy world.

Edited December 24, 2022 by Aristides

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Merry Christmas yourself Ahole, it's the Russians who are destroying Ukraine, It's the Russians who have been targeting civilians. You think the Russians are justified in committing any kind war crime. Man you live some kind of sick upside down fantasy world.

Boo hoo hoo. 

Does the truth hurt your widdow feewings?

You just keep on screaming for more needless killin' to satisfy your bloodlust.

I'll keep posting truth.

BTW...make sure to remind comic-boy that his own soldiers want to wish him a very merry Christmas...

In their own way of course.

[Infidel Dog]

21 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Retired Air Vice-Marshal Sean Bell discusses the situation in Bakhmut and why Russia is making slow progress trying to take the city. 

--> There is also a video trending, of Russian movement in Belarus. 

See video below, many analyst did theorise Russia wants to launch another attack towards Kyiv via Belarus: 

 

 

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Boo hoo hoo. 

Does the truth hurt your widdow feewings?

You just keep on screaming for more needless killin' to satisfy your bloodlust.

I'll keep posting truth.

BTW...make sure to remind comic-boy that his own soldiers want to wish him a very merry Christmas...

In their own way of course.

Your truth straight from your Russian propaganda mill. What a maroon. 

It's Russians trying to destroy Ukraine and they are getting their asses kicked because the Ukrainian people are not having it, you twit. It isn't because of Zelenskyy, it is the Ukrainian people you fool. Even if the Russians manage to take over Ukraine, any Russian in Ukraine will never be safe. 

[Infidel Dog]

24 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Denys says that only the Russian public is bringing up this theory of an invasion from Belarus, but this theory also comes from sources like ISW (Institute for the Study of War) which is a Western think thank. 

Only time will tell. The Belarusian president is due to visit Russia in person in the next couple of days. Putin visited Belarus recently. High activity of meetings between the 2 lately. 

Bad time for Belarus to openly enter the conflict with Ukraine getting longer range missiles.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/22/2022 at 7:32 PM, Aristides said:

So you think what Biden says is justification for what Putin has done?

Threatening to put NATO all along Russia's border with Ukraine is absolutely justification for what Putin has done. 100%.

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Threatening to put NATO all along Russia's border with Ukraine is absolutely justification for what Putin has done. 100%.

Bullshit. There is no justification for what Putin has done. Ukraine has never threatened Russia, they even gave up their nukes and missiles and sent them to Russia.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/23/2022 at 11:07 AM, Army Guy said:

In what terms is it legal? what threat is Ukraine to Russia. 

I'm sure the US at the time did give 2 sweet F***s if it was legal or not Having a Nuke missile battery off the coast with less than a 5 min strike time was a huge threat, to millions of Americans. But i don't think the US is setting up nuke missile systems in Ukraine, so what threat does Ukraine pose? 

Provoked it how? 

OMG bro. 

Ask yourself if Canada could enter into a serious military pact with NoKo, China, Russia and Iran, which had bases all over the world...

The answer is no, there's not a single doubt about it, and if it came to war the US would make war on us in a heartbeat. The vote in Congress and the Senate would turn into a bi-partisan orgy. 

Cuba is 1,250 km away from DC over the ocean, Kharkiv is 735km from Russia down a major highway. And maybe the US doesn't have plans to put strategic nukes all over Ukraine. What about 3 years from now? 

This isn't a cute little strategy game for Russia. If you know what life was like for Germans along the wall, you'd know that's not an option for Russia.

This is far more important than partisan politics. Biden and Putin are talking about chemical and nuclear warfare. One is a tyrant and the other is a semi-retarded tyrant. That's very bad. 

F*ck Ukraine. I don't care if they get bombed. They can go to hell. 

[Aristides]

Tell me genius, why would Ukraine want US missiles on their soil, it would just make them a target for a nuclear attack. There are presently no NATO nuclear missiles based in countries bordering Russia. Cuba is 531 km from Miami.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Bullshit. There is no justification for what Putin has done. Ukraine has never threatened Russia, they even gave up their nukes and missiles and sent them to Russia.

Grow up ffs. No one is a dumb as you're pretending to be.

No country ever wanted a hostile military alliance right on their doorstep, especially not along a 3,000km border like Ukraine shares with Russia and Belarus. 

Ukraine is poking the bear and they got bit. Boo-hoo. I wouldn't give Ukrainians the steam off my sh1t right now. 

[Aristides]

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In 2021, it is estimated that there are 100 U.S.-owned nuclear weapons stored in five NATO member states across six bases: Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel Air Base in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi Air Bases in Italy, Volkel Air Base in the Netherlands, and Incirlik in Turkey. The weapons are not armed or deployed on aircraft; they are instead kept in WS3 underground vaults in national airbases, and the Permissive Action Link (PAL) codes used to arm them remain in American hands. To be used, the bombs would be loaded onto dual-capable NATO-designated fighters. Each country is in the process of modernizing its nuclear-capable fighters to either the F-35A, the F-18 Super Hornet, or the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Like your hero Putin, you are full of shit. There are other NATO countries bordering Russia, none of them have nukes based on their soil.

 

Since when has Ukraine ever been hostile to Russia?

Edited December 24, 2022 by Aristides

[Nationalist]

20 hours ago, Aristides said:

Your truth straight from your Russian propaganda mill. What a maroon. 

It's Russians trying to destroy Ukraine and they are getting their asses kicked because the Ukrainian people are not having it, you twit. It isn't because of Zelenskyy, it is the Ukrainian people you fool. Even if the Russians manage to take over Ukraine, any Russian in Ukraine will never be safe. 

Ya...it certainly looks like it.

What was it that Ukrainian soldier said?

"Zelinsky better hope Putin gets him before I do."

Merry Christmas 

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...it certainly looks like it.

What was it that Ukrainian soldier said?

"Zelinsky better hope Putin gets him before I do."

Merry Christmas 

Another gem from your Russian sources? Must be why the Ukrainians are fighting so hard and kicking Russian ass. They all hate Zelenskyy.?

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

Another gem from your Russian sources? Must be why the Ukrainians are fighting so hard and kicking Russian ass. They all hate Zelenskyy.?

just reporting what I see...

[Aristides]

The Russian gangster kleptocracy in action. Godfather Vlad doesn't send critics to a gulag or execute them in the basement of Lubyanka like Papa Joe, they just fall out of windows and down stairs. Much easier.

[500channelsurfer]

I am sorry to say that Zelensy's peace plan is too demanding. If tanks are flowing into Belarus from Russia, Putin may be preparing for another attack front in the case of a Russian rejection of peace negotiations.

Zelensky peace plan: https://www.businessinsider.com/zelenskyy-proposes-10-point-peace-plan-ukraine-g20-bali-summit-2022-11

The Crimea has been under Russia for 8 years now; does Zelensky really expect Russia to hand it back over as well as Russian speaking and ethnic regions in Ukraine's far east? Or are these bargaining chips?

The world was much safer when there were buffer states between more powerful ones.

[Aristides]

Ukraine has nothing to gain by negotiating from a position of weakness. 

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, 500channelsurfer said:

I am sorry to say that Zelensy's peace plan is too demanding. If tanks are flowing into Belarus from Russia, Putin may be preparing for another attack front in the case of a Russian rejection of peace negotiations.

Zelensky peace plan: https://www.businessinsider.com/zelenskyy-proposes-10-point-peace-plan-ukraine-g20-bali-summit-2022-11

The Crimea has been under Russia for 8 years now; does Zelensky really expect Russia to hand it back over as well as Russian speaking and ethnic regions in Ukraine's far east? Or are these bargaining chips?

The world was much safer when there were buffer states between more powerful ones.

If Belarus enters the conflict then we take one huge step closer to widening this conflict, and might have a NATO country intervene. 

There is no statue of limitations on land taken by military force, see PLO / Israel, just look at land claims here in Canada dating back to the 1700's...  

Ukraine has the upper hand for now, Russian forces are not making any ground, and are just being crewed up by the thousands every week.  

This war will end when Putin is taken for a short walk in the back woods, and the new head of the snake makes a rational move toward peace. i say rational becasue the Russian military could not wipe their own asses right now, they lack modern equipment, and trained troops. 

[BeaverFever]

On 12/22/2022 at 11:14 PM, WestCanMan said:

It's hilarious that you got busted for lying and you come back to call me "dummy". 

Grow up Beave. I caught you on a lie - you should be apologizing, not name-calling like a child. 

Of course not. They don't call you 'collusion boy' for nothing.

The Azovs were a proud Nazi batallion, 100%, with the symbols, the tattoos, the war crimes... everything that you'd expect from actual Nazis, and the Ukraine gov't was peachy keen with that because they are who they are.

Now that the world is watching them, and the (overtly racist) Dems are on their side, they're trying to polish that pig.

But do you think that the Ukrainians suddenly cleaned up that battalion in the middle of a war? 

Honestly, if Canada was in a war right now against a much bigger country and we had a Nazi battalion suddenly start to fight for us (and why wouldn't they fight for Trudeau?), I'm not so sure that I'd kick their asses to the curb. It'd be a win-win to have them fight for us, because it would mean that Nazis were dying at the same time as our enemies were dying. 

If you pulled the Nazis out of the fight, they'd get to live while better people were dying fighting for us. 

The view from 50,000 feet looks like this: the Ukrainian gov't loved Nazis when they didn't need to tolerate them. They didn't attempt to clean the Nazi stench off of their army at all when no one was looking, they just did it for the cameras.

There's a famous quote from a Ukrainian president: "It's hard to get American money to fund our Nazi army."

That quote is from April. 

Dude, getting the ADL to front for them cost a few sheckles, that's it. The only rule is that they have to wear armbands over their tattoos when John Stewart gives them awards. 

You will continue to believe everything that you see on CNN, because it's so much easier to fool someone than to show them that they've been fooled. I'll continue to believe people when they say that they're Nazis because it's not something to be proud of. 

Your gullibility and sheer ignorance are astounding. 
 

Basically you whole absurd story is that despite being heavily economically dependent on trade with Russia, Ukraine was going to launch bioweapons into Russia out of the blue for no particular reason.  Even though they had no military force to defend themselves from the inevitable Russian counterattack and a bio weapons attack in and of itself would economically ruin them given how intertwined the economies were. And their planned bio attack not just any readily available bioweapons, they were going to spend years/decades inventing completely new bioweapons for some reason.  In you feeble mind, all this simple-minded nonsense is explained simply by saying “because they’re Nazis”.

And in your feeble mind it makes perfect sense that all the world’s democracies of Europe, North America, Australia Japan and beyond are on board with Ukraine because suddenly they are all Nazi sympathizers who think this bioweapons attack with no real purpose  is a great idea.  Dum-dums like you think the world is made up of 141 nazi sympathizer countries trying to bully sweet innocent Russia whose only support is from known champions of justice and freedom China, Iran, North Korea, Syria and Saudi Arabia 

Then you go on to suggest that because of this absurd nazi threat, Russia’s invasion and annexation is therefore justified. In some completely unexplained way, somehow annexing Crimea and Donbas prevents rather than triggers the mythical bioweapons attack from happening. And for some other completely unexplained reasons Ukraine has STILL not used its supposed nazi bioweapons despite being invaded by Russia. 
 

But the levels of dumbness don’t stop there. Next you dum-dums go on to argue that because one of the citizen resistance groups in Russia-invaded Donbas had neo-nazi beliefs this PROVES BEYOND ALL DOUBT that the entire government of Ukraine is hardcore Nazi and the President amd the Defence minister are hardcore “Jewish Nazis” and that all of NATO and the 141 countries of the world who condemned the Russian invasion are Nazi sympathizers including the Jewish Anti Defamation League. You have descended into levels of moronic belief that can’t even be described. 
 

By your dum-dum logic any decent respectable non-nazi government would naturally and immediately cease all resistance to invasion by Putin’s pillaging, raping, terrorist proxies who shot down a civilian airliner with hundreds of people on board, if they learned any of the groups fighting alongside had neo-nazi ideology .  

So to recap: Westcan’s dum-dum logic is Russian doll of moronic thought:

 

1) Because this one paramilitary group used to have  Nazi sympathies before the government took it over, dismissed its leadership and filled its ranks with new recruits it must still and forever have nazi sympathies  IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO BE OTHERWISE, PERIOD

2) Therefore if this one paramilitary group with a peak size of 2,500  has Nazi sympathies, the entire active and reserve force of 1.2 Million must all be nazis even though somehow all that Kremlin puppets can cite is the one small group and their actions in 2014/2015. Oh and apparently there’s one badge on a uniform that didn’t get canceled with rest until this year,   OMG CASE CLOSED! ?

3) Therefore,  the Jewish president and defence minister of Ukraine who command this army if nazis must be a newly discovered special kind of “Jewish Nazi”

4) Therefore, NATO must be run by Nazi sympathizers and the entire world (except for our heroes in Russia, Iran, North Korea, China , Syria and Saudi Arabia) is under Nazi rule.
 

All of this is proven by the fact that a tiny paramilitary unit in Ukraine used to be Nazis. 
 

?

[BeaverFever]

On 12/22/2022 at 11:14 PM, WestCanMan said:

There's a famous quote from a Ukrainian president: "It's hard to get American money to fund our Nazi army."

That quote is from April. 

 

I call BS. Cite. 

 

On 12/22/2022 at 11:14 PM, WestCanMan said:

I'll continue to believe people when they say that they're Nazis

They don’t say they’re Nazis. The rebel group that existed  7 years ago did before it was taken over. And the Ukrainian military has another 1.2 Million troops who have no affiliation with this grou. The fact that you pathetically have go back to the trough of referencing just this one battalion 7 years ago before it was even under government control to “prove” the entire country is Nazis shows just how pathetic and desperate you are. 

 

On 12/22/2022 at 11:14 PM, WestCanMan said:

Dude, getting the ADL to front for them cost a few sheckles, that's it.

Antisemitic nonsense. I love how you claim you’re trying to stand up to nazis by making up baseless lies about the ADL and smearing them with negative stereotypes about Jews and their willingness to do anything for “sheckles”. You shouldn’t be ashamed of yourself. 
 

Your arguments are so desperate and lame if you were more intelligent you would realize how ridiculous you sound. Your’e a brainwashed Putin puppet whose talking points come straight from the Kremlin, plain and simple 

Edited December 29, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

 

 

Is it maybe time for a peace deal now?

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

 

 

Is it maybe time for a peace deal now?

It's always been time for a peace deal, but it's not going to be on Putin's terms.  I'm not sure what Youtube videos from garbage conspiracy news sites has to do with it though.  ?

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Basically you whole absurd story is that despite being heavily economically dependent on trade with Russia, Ukraine was going to launch bioweapons into Russia out of the blue for no particular reason.  

No, that's just your own unintelligent blather, as usual. 

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 Even though they had no military force to defend themselves from the inevitable Russian counterattack and a bio weapons attack in and of itself would economically ruin them given how intertwined the economies were. And their planned bio attack not just any readily available bioweapons, they were going to spend years/decades inventing completely new bioweapons for some reason.  In you feeble mind, all this simple-minded nonsense is explained simply by saying “because they’re Nazis”.? 

You are a nutjob and you don't understand biological warfare at all. Shocker.

You need to grow up Beave.

Calling people "dum-dum" and then fighting off straw-man arguments is Jr High school dropout stuff (ie, right up your alley).

If you wanna believe that Russia blew up their own pipeline, Russian collusion is a thing, Tory Nuland lied about the US/Ukraine biolabs under oath, that US gov't websites lied about biolabs in Ukraine, the FBI committing crimes is no big deal, if you think it's normal for a modern country to embrace Naziism, etc, go for it.

I'm not here to educate you for the same reason I never bought a pet rock.