Conservative Leadership September 10th

[Faramir]

As long as we get a real conservative not a fake and flake like Charest.  Please no more CINOs.  I wish Maxime would fold his party and run for leadership.  In any case we are stuck with Turd - O for a long time.  I am currently pissed beyond belief that they let the passport situation get to where it is.  I told them I have an August travel date and they are saying they might not get it processed by then!  

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

There may not be a way to prove it, but we certainly did not do mother earth any favors... lots of ways to slow climate change, but these projects take decades to complete and our nation does nothing fast. If the government was serious there would be an action plan already, and action being taken, I mean Justin did declare it an emergency right...with all the lights and sirens, and we have not even left the station yet..., and to get the whole world on board is going to be next to imposable, that is if we don't nuke each other first...

That’s what the pandemic was for, I think.  They put the controls in place.  We obeyed.  The CDC is talking up future spread.  Conditioning and control.   This is why the Liberals and Democrats must be routed from office for a generation.  They are trying to consolidate unprecedented government overreach.  We saw what happens to those who protest mandates.  Trudeau hasn’t lifted them and won’t discuss their removal.  I do NOT trust this government.  There’s just too much concerning evidence to ignore.  If you care about freedom and democracy, I’d do what you can to promote the election of Polievre, because Charest is all in on the overreach.  

[Queenmandy85]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

There may not be a way to prove it, but we certainly did not do mother earth any favors... lots of ways to slow climate change, but these projects take decades to complete and our nation does nothing fast. If the government was serious there would be an action plan already, and action being taken, I mean Justin did declare it an emergency right...with all the lights and sirens, and we have not even left the station yet..., and to get the whole world on board is going to be next to imposable, that is if we don't nuke each other first...

We have known this was coming for 45 years. I remember talking about the greenhouse effect in 1975 with my dad at the supper table. We needed to educate people about what happens when we pass the point of no return, when it becomes a self generating effect. We should have been doing that in the 1970's and started phasing out fossil fuels then. We should have been building nuclear power plants around the world back then. If we had, the cost of mitigation would have been a lot cheaper.

[August1991]

No idea what's going on, haven't read the thread.

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I reckon that it's a choice between Poilevre and Charest.

Who can beat Trudeau? No. Not at all.

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Harper won because he was, uh, Canadian. 

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, August1991 said:

 

1. I reckon that it's a choice between Poilevre and Charest.

2. Who can beat Trudeau? No. Not at all.

3. Harper won because he was, uh, Canadian. 

 

 

1. Yes, but not their ideas.
2. That clock radio 'beep beep beep' sound is going to ring for Justin Trudeau soon.  Very soon.
3. Aaand.... people were sick of the Liberals remember ?

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

We have known this was coming for 45 years. I remember talking about the greenhouse effect in 1975 with my dad at the supper table. We needed to educate people about what happens when we pass the point of no return, when it becomes a self generating effect. We should have been doing that in the 1970's and started phasing out fossil fuels then. We should have been building nuclear power plants around the world back then. If we had, the cost of mitigation would have been a lot cheaper.

I say the same thing about our governance, we've known for just as long or longer that we simply can't trust governments nor should we, at least not without a means of auditing and validating the decision making process to ensure its being honestly conducted.  We probably would have found it much easier to have built nuclear plants if people could have more easily trusted their governments.

I think that decades of official evasiveness at every level of governance is the biggest contributor to the Misinformation Age and widespread malaise of mistrust virtually every institution and government around the planet is now steeped in.  This mistrust only makes the avoidance of public attention even more of a prime directive.  

It's a death spiral. Widespread sousveillance is the only thing that hasn't been tried.  Maybe it'll only spawn a different dystopia but maybe it won't.  Whatever the lessons are that will be learned will be hard ones at this point.

Edited May 7, 2022 by eyeball

[Jack9000]

On 5/5/2022 at 4:41 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

Pierre may threaten your parasitic existence . . . he may have a solution to you and your ilk, to the betterment of Canada.

 

Lol ? what a nice thing to call a fellow Canadian 

[Infidel Dog]

I watched the debate. Just happened to be channel surfing past it halfway through.

Poilievre kicked ass.

Charest looked out of his league - fumbling and fuming calling names and accusing everybody of calling names as he called them names. You know...like a prog.

Seriously if that guy wins I'm done with the Progressive Conservatives forever. Poilievre put up calm fire guard burns to the one-time Libs hysterical flames with easy counters and Charest responded by appearing to be losing it. 

Poilievre knows how to to counter liberal attacks and that's why he's my guy. That and he wants to defund the CBC. 

I didn't mind what that guy, Roman Baber was saying but he's a bit of a wet noodle. He doesn't have the charisma to take on Little Potato. Poilievre does.

[Jack9000]

Debate was hilarious looked like bunch of kids calling each other names and Pierre was the lamest of all he's all mouth lmao 

[Army Guy]

On 5/6/2022 at 8:37 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

We have known this was coming for 45 years. I remember talking about the greenhouse effect in 1975 with my dad at the supper table. We needed to educate people about what happens when we pass the point of no return, when it becomes a self generating effect. We should have been doing that in the 1970's and started phasing out fossil fuels then. We should have been building nuclear power plants around the world back then. If we had, the cost of mitigation would have been a lot cheaper.

Most of the country's population knows this is not day one of climate change, and most will say the conservative's climate change program sucks... and yet what has the liberal program accomplished to date, gas is already at 2 bucks a liter, with many more raises to go before it levels out, Have we been driving less, enough to meet any goals...So really when you boil it down, this country does not have a good plan that matches the climate emergency the liberals called, just another lie... 

And those that belief in climate change will vote liberal because at least they have a plan, yes it is a plan that will get us nowhere except broke....it is time for a change in leadership. Most Canadians demand change.  

[Infidel Dog]

10 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

Debate was hilarious looked like bunch of kids calling each other names and Pierre was the lamest of all he's all mouth lmao 

Because your guy lost, right. 

I'll give Charest credit for trying though. Too bad he's so lame when he meets somebody who can counter though.

Edited May 8, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Jack9000]

18 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Because your guy lost, right. 

I'll give Charest credit for trying though. Too bad he's so lame when he meets somebody who can counter though.

They all lost the whole thing was a disaster lmao . Pierre's counters are useless also 

[Infidel Dog]

I want a guy that can put them back on their heels when they attack.

I want a Canadian DeSantis.

Poilievre is the best we've got for that now. Better than Max even. He showed that with the lame duck, lib, Charest in the debate.

Edited May 9, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[sharkman]

On 5/3/2022 at 7:11 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Yup.  The Conservative Party may have stifled free speech by keeping candidates off the ballot because they are social conservatives.  That’s according to the CBC, however, so I don’t know anymore.

https://apple.news/ApX2nyeZqRlyKZVVV2CvAqA

So it turns out that the Conservative Party denied Abraham’s application because they claimed he didn’t raise the 300k amount.  He had to show them the error was at THEIR end.  
Without admitting they were wrong, a few days later the conservative party throws up another roadblock and disqualifies some of his signatures putting him under the threshold he needed. This is four days or so after disqualifying him in error on the finances.

I wish I was making this up.  It seems clear that they are operating under a directive to thin the herd, so to speak, of those running for leadership.  To me this clearly illustrates corruption within the party leadership.

 

[Faramir]

16 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I want a guy that can put them back on their heels when they attack.

I want a Canadian DeSantis.

Poilievre is the best we've got for that now. Better than Max even. He showed that with the lame duck, lib, Charest in the debate.

The problem is Canada is fundamentally a socialist country peopled by socialists.  Canadians actually see a limp wristed milquetoast like Charest as a conservative.

[Jack9000]

13 hours ago, Faramir said:

The problem is Canada is fundamentally a socialist country peopled by socialists.  Canadians actually see a limp wristed milquetoast like Charest as a conservative.

He is a conservative lol he led the old PC party .

[Great American]

13 hours ago, Faramir said:

The problem is Canada is fundamentally a socialist country peopled by socialists.

That's sad.

13 hours ago, Faramir said:

Canadians actually see a limp wristed milquetoast like Charest as a conservative.

He's a CINO? Conservative In Name Only ?

[Faramir]

9 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

He is a conservative lol he led the old PC party .

And the Liberal Party in PQ.

[Jack9000]

6 hours ago, Faramir said:

And the Liberal Party in PQ.

Cause no decent conservative named party in Qc  if you looked into the liberal qb party instead of just looking at the name you would see they label as a center to center right party just like the BC ones .. but no u just seen the name and assume he's a pure liberal. lol he's a conservative  

Edited May 11, 2022 by Jack9000

[August1991]

I watched part of the debate.

I am a member of the federal Conservative Party.

At present, I plan to vote for Charest.

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The perfect is the enemy of the good.

a) If Poilievre wins, he'll want nothing to do with Charest.

b) If Charest wins, he'll keep Poilievre on his team.

 

[Zeitgeist]

All of the leadership candidates should have Cabinet portfolios if the Conservatives form government, I think. I’d be happy to see either Polievre or Lewis as PM.  Charest should have a key role working with foreign leaders because he is known, seasoned, and has run a government, which is why I see him in Foreign Affairs or perhaps Defence.  Polievre has to be more conciliatory.  He can be abrasive. 

[Faramir]

13 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

Cause no decent conservative named party in Qc  if you looked into the liberal qb party instead of just looking at the name you would see they label as a center to center right party just like the BC ones .. but no u just seen the name and assume he's a pure liberal. lol he's a conservative  

Fair enough?  What did he do that was conservative?

[Faramir]

13 hours ago, August1991 said:

I watched part of the debate.

I am a member of the federal Conservative Party.

At present, I plan to vote for Charest.

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The perfect is the enemy of the good.

a) If Poilievre wins, he'll want nothing to do with Charest.

b) If Charest wins, he'll keep Poilievre on his team.

 

Again exactly what is conservative about Charest.  When he ran the old PC party, he just wanted a little less welfare than the NDP.

[PIK]

Tru Blu conservatism is dead. We just need to win. Charest I see gas a good chance at beating Trudeau. Debates are nothing to go by. I like PP myself, but if he doesn't tone it down some, people will turn on him. Party closest to the centre wins the next election. Imo. 

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, PIK said:

Tru Blu conservatism is dead. We just need to win. Charest I see gas a good chance at beating Trudeau. Debates are nothing to go by. I like PP myself, but if he doesn't tone it down some, people will turn on him. Party closest to the centre wins the next election. Imo. 

The Triumvirate is Poliviere, Lewis, Charest.  That government could get three terms I think.