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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Rex tells it like it is on the strength of Polievre:

https://apple.news/AMuRzLOlrS_uXBILQOeZIHQ

Polievre is probably the clear front runner but will need to shore up the social conservative and PPC voters if he hopes to form government. 

Looks like after months of denial, the $10,000 ️ wearing "socialist" Jagmeet Singh will join a coalition with the Liberals to give them essentially a majority until 2025. Lots of damage to be done during that time

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2 hours ago, West said:

Polievre is probably the clear front runner but will need to shore up the social conservative and PPC voters if he hopes to form government. 

The PPC voter/libertarians aren't enough to form a government.  They cost the CPC at most 5-6 seats in the last election, with only around 50% of PPC voters considering them as the next best alternative.  The social conservatives already vote PPC or CPC, so the math doesn't really work here.  

2 hours ago, West said:

Looks like after months of denial, the $10,000 ️ wearing "socialist" Jagmeet Singh will join a coalition with the Liberals to give them essentially a majority until 2025. Lots of damage to be done during that time

Is anyone surprised?  It begs the next question:

How is pandering to the handful of seats lost over PPC protest votes going to overcome the weight of a Liberal/NDP coalition?  Poilievre is barking up the wrong tree.   

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1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

The PPC voter/libertarians aren't enough to form a government.  They cost the CPC at most 5-6 seats in the last election, with only around 50% of PPC voters considering them as the next best alternative.  The social conservatives already vote PPC or CPC, so the math doesn't really work here.  

Is anyone surprised?  It begs the next question:

How is pandering to the handful of seats lost over PPC protest votes going to overcome the weight of a Liberal/NDP coalition?  Poilievre is barking up the wrong tree.   

Stop trying to make the CPC like your Lberals.  The Liberals are going to win no matter what because Canadians are increasingly brainwashed cyphers who fear individual freedoms and decision-making, like you. : )

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7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Stop trying to make the CPC like your Lberals.  The Liberals are going to win no matter what because Canadians are increasingly brainwashed cyphers who fear individual freedoms and decision-making, like you. : )

Presumably Conservatives and conservatives are the smartest adults in the room, so why isn't it easier for them to control the stupid Canadians that are, as is often repeated, the real majority in Canada?

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9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Stop trying to make the CPC like your Lberals.  The Liberals are going to win no matter what because Canadians are increasingly brainwashed cyphers who fear individual freedoms and decision-making, like you. : )

I'm not the one peeing my pants and signaling the impending death of freedom and democracy.  Stop projecting.  ?

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1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

I'm not the one peeing my pants and signaling the impending death of freedom and democracy.  Stop projecting.  ?

I may pee my pants but you shit the bed. Impending? Already there. You’re the perfect slave because you think cages are awesome.  

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Presumably Conservatives and conservatives are the smartest adults in the room, so why isn't it easier for them to control the stupid Canadians that are, as is often repeated, the real majority in Canada?

It’s about seats.  The Liberals buy the seat heavy Eastern Provinces with handouts.  They buy the central Canadian cities of Montreal, Ottawa, and Ontario with ultra-left identity politics.  They buy BC with promises of green fascism to fight “climate change”.   They’ve given up on Alberta and Saskatchewan because those resource workers and farmers who work for a living generally don’t vote for out of touch effete elites.

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3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Presumably Conservatives and conservatives are the smartest adults in the room, so why isn't it easier for them to control the stupid Canadians that are, as is often repeated, the real majority in Canada?

Well as things shifted left in the neighborhood, the workers rights program shut these experiment down due to the conservatives were only paying lefty candidates a few peanuts a day... So the government made the conservatives stop doing medical experiments that were so close to finding out answers....what makes a lefty a lefty, or as you put it stupid, a a pretty harsh word, "my opinion", slow maybe but not stupid...

Anyways its seems there is a little gland in the brain known as the shit for brains gland...thats all the know right now before they stopped the experiments. On the bright side they are now stock piling peanuts to pay them the required amount...so we may find out after the next election

 

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I heard that another Westerner will be vying for the Conservative leadership. Grant Abraham, out of Calgary I think.

He’s got some good things to say about what the liberals have done with regard to the WEF and the globalist movement.  
 

Look him up on YouTube.

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On 3/22/2022 at 12:33 PM, eyeball said:

Presumably Conservatives and conservatives are the smartest adults in the room, so why isn't it easier for them to control the stupid Canadians that are, as is often repeated, the real majority in Canada?

Because it's hard to win an election by telling the truth to people who are being sold a shinier lie by the competition. IE, you can't talk about being sensible and working hard to a group of people who have been promised silver spoons for doing nothing. 

"Hey kids, do you want a Buddha bowl for dinner or Fruit Loops?" is the exact same thing as "Do you want to work hard to make a decent living or should everyone get free medical, free dental and a guaranteed living wage no matter how lazy they are?"

Having a healthy body is a choice that requires some effort. Having a strong country is a choice that requires some effort. Leftists appeal to people who don't have the gumption to put in real effort. 

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On 4/29/2022 at 8:58 AM, WestCanMan said:

Because it's hard to win an election by telling the truth to people...

So just lie to them.  You said you do it yourself to get your points across - what's the matter with the representatives you choose?  You'll be voting on principles? Loser. Not me, I've scraped that shit off once and for all.

I'll be voting for whoever brings in the most buckshee. I'm finally starting to appreciate what conservatives have been telling me all these years - fuck everyone else before they fuck me.

 

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2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So just lie to them. 

That would make them Libs, so it would be counterproductive.

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You said you do it yourself to get your points across -

I just gotta see what gave you this impression....

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what's the matter with the representatives you choose?  You'll be voting on principles? Loser. Not me, I've scraped that shit off once and for all.

Yeah, we're well aware of your lack of principles. It's your superpower. 

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I'll be voting for whoever brings in the most buckshee.

LOL, that's what you've been doing this whole time - voting for leftists who use taxpayer money to buy media coverage and votes. That was my whole point about Libs.

You've had your nose up to their duodenum this whole time, I'm pretty sure you knew that.

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I'm finally starting to appreciate what conservatives have been telling me all these years - fuck everyone else before they fuck me.

That was probably your cousin/siblings. 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

LOL, that's what you've been doing this whole time - voting for leftists who use taxpayer money to buy media coverage and votes.

Well I honestly believed I was voting for a better world with my bleeding heart but I'm getting older now and my cold hearted wallet is demanding a greater say in voting for a better me.  I'm pretty sure a good part of my properties increasing value is a trickle down benefit of snow-washing so I'll probably vote for whoever's best at running the laundromat.  Right now that looks like the Liberals hands down.  It's as clear as day Conservatives suck at corruption, at getting away with it themselves and especially when it comes to catching Liberals at it and making it stick.

Who cares what the media says - you're a property owner, what's your wallet saying?

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So we should all be voting with our wallets, because economics trumps those that lost their homes in the same real estate market we profited from?

There are more homeless than ever.  If this is the Liberals firing on all cylinders, they are heading for a car wreck.

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2 hours ago, sharkman said:

So we should all be voting with our wallets, because economics trumps those that lost their homes in the same real estate market we profited from?

No, because the wealth of our nation is based on corruption, something Liberals are far better at.

 

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There are more homeless than ever.  If this is the Liberals firing on all cylinders, they are heading for a car wreck.

Scrape 'em off...embrace the horror.

Or get Poilievre to start digging into the corruption that's at the heart of our economy. I mean, I can be convinced to vote Conservative believe it or not but I've decided that's up to conservatives.  Convince Poilievre to do the right thing and so will I. 

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9 hours ago, eyeball said:

you're a property owner, what's your wallet saying?

I still need to buy food and gas, eventually I'll have to buy another foreign-made car with our devalued dollar, and all of that depends on my bank account not getting frozen by your beloved fuhrer.

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4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I still need to buy food and gas, eventually I'll have to buy another foreign-made car with our devalued dollar, and all of that depends on my bank account not getting frozen by your beloved fuhrer.

You mean it hasn't been frozen already?  And how come mine isn't frozen given all the bad-mouthing of Trudeau that I engage in?

How do you explain it?

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I just attended the Conservative ONB Leadership Meet and Greet in Burlington, Ontario.  Six Conservative candidates spoke, including the biggest players:  Leslyn, Charest, Polievre, and Brown.  Polievre was the strongest. Not only did he cover all the most pressing policy concerns powerfully in the six minute time limit, he came across as the most astute and persuasive candidate.  The crowds responded with signs and applause.  Charest was polished and referenced his experience, especially the 1995 Referendum, but other than explaining that he could unify the party and that he supported rule of law, he didn’t offer much on policy.  Very little on housing and inflation. Nothing on government overreach.  Leslyn spoke passionately about restoring our democracy and respect for freedom of religion.  She was powerful.

 I stand by my initial assertion that Polievre deserves to be PM with Leslyn as his Deputy PM.  If Charest wins a federal seat, I could see him as Minister of Foreign Affairs or some other diplomatic role. All the candidates spoke well and would probably do well in Cabinet.  

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1)The last thing we need at this point is a leader from the establishment.  We just got rid of one of those.

2) Polievre wants it badly, not a good thing.

3) The conservative efforts in Ottawa are far too close to the Liberal platform and policies.

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1 hour ago, sharkman said:

 


1)The last thing we need at this point is a leader from the establishment.  We just got rid of one of those.

2) Polievre wants it badly, not a good thing.

3) The conservative efforts in Ottawa are far too close to the Liberal platform and policies.

The gutsiest speeches came from Polievre and Leslyn.  Polievre had no qualms about going after Trudeau for his treatment of the truckers and the regulations and taxes that are crippling our economy.  

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30 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The gutsiest speeches came from Polievre and Leslyn.  Polievre had no qualms about going after Trudeau for his treatment of the truckers and the regulations and taxes that are crippling our economy.  

Polievre is saying all the right things now, but talk is cheap.  He wants it too much.  People that crave the reins of power are the last thing we need.

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Poilievre uses the Convoy for political advantage.  As the pandemic subsides there will be little need to make policy changes, so pay attention to how much he talks about it.  Pure politics.

I'd be interested in what the policies are they're talking about.

Cutting taxes can only go with cutting spending, and that means cutting services so anybody who wants to frame themselves as doing things a new way has to be honest about that.

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